When people were wild I doubt they shared and did shit like that with strangers and be nice to one another. Like maybe for their family and then screw anyone else who gets in your way.
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When people were wild I doubt they shared and did shit like that with strangers and be nice to one another. Like maybe for their family and then screw anyone else who gets in your way.
Typical stoner logic right there. All that really matters is that you believe in something, that inspires you to better your life and the life of others. AS for the divine spark, I cant remember where I read about it but I know its about mans creativity and the fact that within us we all have a creative potential is evidence of something divine. A divine spark of inspiration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trichocereus Panza
I prefer the scientific outlook of death.
If we are filled with energy (soul/spirit = energy, or whatever), and energy cannot be destroyed, then we obviously go on somehow - just in a very indirect way.
I completely agree with that except why call it indirect?
Nothing is born and nothing dies. It's 100% just as direct as any other physical process in the universe, the only reason to call it that would be because "we" don't experience it directly as individual beings. But that is misleading also--every physical part of our body experiences it on its OWN level, which is really the way we experience consciousness NOW, except we don't realize it cause we think of ourselves as "one" whole organism. The difference between death and life is meaningless for our energy on the subatomic level.
I also don't agree that there can be a "scientific" outlook on death because no one can experientially describe what it was like as a human being. Since science is empirical, and death is a private phenomenon which is most relevant to us each as individuals, there is no scientific outlook without an empirical description from the inside, which is impossible because subatomic energy by itself does not give "descriptions" of its experience anymore.
Ironically, perhaps the closest to a scientific viewpoint we have on this is the near-death experience, the DMT experience, or the experience of passing through the bardos as described by the practice of "conscious dying" and coming back again by Eastern yogis.
Yet most people who credit themselves as "scientists" discredit these experiences for their "metaphysical" connotations. What they don't realize is that everything is one thing, and nothing requires metaphysical explanation, no matter how unusual it seems to our current paradigm.
Interesting topic...
Reminds me of the books written by this stoner philosopher:
http://www.lulu.com/newport
I've been through many different beliefs and have peacefully settled with believing nothing while helplessly hoping this is just a dream of sorts.
I believe that we become non-existant, and become reborn. Being non-existant is nothing new to us..just think of what the feeling was like before you was born..you didn't even exist right? You was basically 'dead' in a sense. I believe life has a cycle of rebirth because you gain your conciousness in the form of another human being..or an animal..but you won't remember what happened unless you're hypnotized. Some people get hypnotized and regain memory under hypnosis of their past lives..so personally I think that's exactly what we'll go through. Our SPIRITS, the energy that compells us, it doesn't just die off and become non-existant, but goes through rebirth and lives once again.
Those are pretty simple views.
Think about if a person who died though about life.
And was like.
1) When you incarnate, you don't remember anything about this world you just are, you're incarnate, and that's the only think you can know or remember.
2) You're just a rock, and that's what happens, you don't know anything, you don't think anythink, you don't even feel, other times you can be dirt, or sand.
where were we before we were born into the 3rd dimension? Da doc says sperm and egg?
suppose before we were born we asked the same questions, 'i wonder what it is like to be alive', and now we ask, 'i wonder what its like to be dead',.. then when we are dead we wonder what its like to be a fkin star or planet or some odd shit that we don't yet know exists until we die.
Me not affraid to die, just affraid to live until death.
I recently stopped being afraid to die. I dont think it matters much. When your dead...it's out of your hands.