God Protected Me

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Originally Posted by poorprincess

I find that comment offensive. I dont believe in God. But I wish I could. Because you people that do believe in God have a beautiful gift, you have JOY that we faithless can never know. And you throw it in our faces as if we turned God away on purpose! YOU are the HAVES and WE are the HAVE NOTS. Ours is the way of pain and suffering. Yours is the way of security in the knowlege that your God is watching, pushing, helping and everything will turn out all right because he loves you.

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I just have to flame this hardcore, sorry. - Alright I dont really give a fuck if you believe in god or not, I have suffered pretty much non-stop since I learned how to walk, All my memorys are of suffering, my whole life is just suffering ok? Yes I believe in god, but that probably stopped me from moving on, you dont have to go through what I did so shut the fuck up and love yourself above all else, become acsended. Right now at this moment ur world is completely filled to the brim with LIES I lie, he lies. We are virtually incapable of making a correct statement. You want what I have bitch? well you already got it..now love it. Security? now that is funny. PEACE :confused:

Because you survive an accident, you're convinced God exists? Like Oneironaut said, what about the hundreds who die everyday in horrible accidents, be they on the road, or anywhere else?

Let me tell you something, I survived cancer and that experience only confirmed to me that indeed there is no God; life, disease, death, accidents, are COMPLETELY random. When you're sitting in a room getting chemo for a few hours every week, you sit and watch the other people in there with you.... The old, the young, the middle-aged, the women, the men, the kids, the good, the bad and the ugly...... Death can strike anyone at any time.

Just because YOU survived doen't mean God is on your side, that is an extremely selfish sentiment. It only means that you survived, that you're LUCKY.

FLESH...I also survived cancer (leukemia) and I give ALL thanks to God and MJ:) I know he is there for me..and everyone has to die...moving on is sad for us left behind but death is a part of living so please don't judge someone selfish for giving thanks to God! Survival has made me who I am and made me a stronger person so your saying God kept you from moving on? Well that is your right but don't call those of us that have our power through him and thank him him as being selfish.Thank You.

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Originally Posted by Shelbay

FLESH...I also survived cancer (leukemia) and I give ALL thanks to God and MJ:) I know he is there for me..and everyone has to die...moving on is sad for us left behind but death is a part of living so please don't judge someone selfish for giving thanks to God! Survival has made me who I am and made me a stronger person so your saying God kept you from moving on? Well that is your right but don't call those of us that have our power through him and thank him him as being selfish.Thank You.

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Glad to see there's other survivors! I had Hodgkin's, chemo and radiation are real bitches...

Shelbay, YOU survived cancer. YOU overcame it, with your own strength. It is your will to survival that helps you through sickness and injury, not God. There is nothing more empowering than realizing that you have more power than any religion would lead to to believe: they all ask to pray to some divinity to get through life's trials, when you are infact simply praying to your self, to your inner strength. I didn't mean to single anyone out when I said that thanking God for survivng whatever is selfish. In fact, religion itself is a very selfish process.

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Originally Posted by poorprincess

I find that comment offensive. I dont believe in God. But I wish I could. Because you people that do believe in God have a beautiful gift, you have JOY that we faithless can never know. And you throw it in our faces as if we turned God away on purpose! YOU are the HAVES and WE are the HAVE NOTS. Ours is the way of pain and suffering. Yours is the way of security in the knowlege that your God is watching, pushing, helping and everything will turn out all right because he loves you.

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my comment was not meant to be offensive, please don't think I gloat over anyone's misery ... your reply was extremely intelligent, and showed genuine sincerity, you may be closer to accepting God's Gift, than you think ... God Bless you ... :)

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

Glad to see there's other survivors! I had Hodgkin's, chemo and radiation are real bitches...

Shelbay, YOU survived cancer. YOU overcame it, with your own strength. It is your will to survival that helps you through sickness and injury, not God. There is nothing more empowering than realizing that you have more power than any religion would lead to to believe: they all ask to pray to some divinity to get through life's trials, when you are infact simply praying to your self, to your inner strength. I didn't mean to single anyone out when I said that thanking God for survivng whatever is selfish. In fact, religion itself is a very selfish process.

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I had my treatments at UAB..my Oncologist was the best! I have been in remission for about 5 years now..but recently started small changes in my red cells and tired again...but I think its just all about money so I self medicate and I am sooo healthy!!:) God gave me peace..but I know now that I am not scared of going on..I was so sick but I just had a warm peaceful feeling looking out the window one day and he was WAS there for me! I know he is:thumbsup: But I respect and do read your beliefs..thanks you for being nice debating with no name calling,,thanks.:thumbsup:

i'm glad you're okay
but w/ a comment like:
"whoever spanish people pray to" ...
seems like your ignorant of the God that you believe exists and his guidance.
do not get divine intervention confused with safety precautions [seat belts, air bags, etc] used to prevent deaths in automobile accidents

Well some flesh is gonna burn soon. Break it down SeanPaul - "We be burnin not concernin what nobody wanna say."

Maybe all the people that die in car wrecks were supposed to die at that time, was their fate. Maybe Gratefuldead has a purpose in life he hasnt accomplished yet so he was spared, who knows... I dont follow any religion but I am spiritual and believe in God. I believe God is in you at your core, whatever that force/energy that makes you tick. After many near death experiences like Gratefuldead's you realize that your(or just me) drawn toward a type of moment of salvation when your looking at death before you. I took from those experiences that I wasnt right with myself and God because If I was I shouldnt have been afraid of death at the moment and had those feelings of needing urgent salvation. I use mushrooms to have spirtual experiences now and get back intouch with my spiritual side every so often when I start to feel detached from that side. All I can tell you is remember what you felt and never forget it, learn from it and move on.

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Originally Posted by Shelbay

I had my treatments at UAB..my Oncologist was the best! I have been in remission for about 5 years now..but recently started small changes in my red cells and tired again...but I think its just all about money so I self medicate and I am sooo healthy!!:) God gave me peace..but I know now that I am not scared of going on..I was so sick but I just had a warm peaceful feeling looking out the window one day and he was WAS there for me! I know he is:thumbsup: But I respect and do read your beliefs..thanks you for being nice debating with no name calling,,thanks.:thumbsup:

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It always makes me feel all fuzzy inside hearing about how other people beat cancer.... Congrats! I've been clear for about 1 and a half years myself, and I've never felt better!

As for respect, you get what you give, hunny :) I know that sometimes I might come off sounding like an asshole, but it's (mostly) unintentional :D