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I would only mix a capfull or two with a bit of soap for 40 gallons of mix. I never used it at high levels, nor did I spray it on my plants. I washed them down with water and let them dry before I put them back under the lamps. The preditor mites was the real exterminator I suspect. They dont harm the plants. The dont build webs and once they eat all the spider mites they eat themselves so no worries.
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Originally Posted by SittinStoney420
NO. Dunking is much more traumatic on the plants than misting. It completely floods the stomata and if your soil is even damp, the results could be devastating.
I lost two out of 12 dunking.
I would cut the dose to reflect:
one capful for one gallon of water. THEN dunk.
Make sure the soap is added AFTER the water not before. Stir well and change the water for every three plant dunkings. DO NOT dunk more than 3 plants in the same water.
Many mites will fall off into the water and using more plants in the same water could just transfer the mites.
While the causes are only speculation, it is theorized the soap doesnt kill the mites until it dries thereby suffocating then rupturing the membranes of the mites.
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As for the claim to WIN THE WAR with mites, either its:
1. A lie
2. Misrepresentation
3. Misunderstanding
4. True
As for the TRUE part, man you are the first dude in history to defeat an infestation of spider mites I have ever heard from.
You must be damn good.
For every one mite you see, there are an extimated 100 you don't see.
For every egg you see, there are a thousand you dont see.
But, do not dunk your plants more than once per 14 days.
Every 4 days, spray spray spray and spray.
Floors, containers, soil top, stems, each and every single leaf, bottom and top, all tools, all containers, walls, ceilings, and anything else I forgot.
Yes you can manage the war...but you gotta bust your balls to do it. You must protect your fans.
And, if given enuff time, the predator mites can win the war, but by then the damage is done IF you have true infestation.
An occassional mite will turn into thousands in weeks if not addressed.
Here is a pic I found on the net that shows you can control the war but again, you have to save the fans.
I think the grower said he was using baby shampoo on the leaves AND soil water. Neem is just awfully hard on the tender young leaves. This strain is White Russian...a very potent and pungent strain of tomatos.
The entire lower half of the stems had to be stripped of all growth becasue of the infestation. Its so hard to keep the stuff from the main stem under control so sometimes its easier to jsut strip them since they produce little fruits anyhow.
I know of many people who have beat mites. I had a couple more then a thousand mites. In bud I had approx 400 gallons of soil. A kid who was in the war dropped off a plant for me to care for as he was moving wieght and well the less smell the better when living in a apartment. It had mites that in the heat of my bud room quickly overcame the plant covering it in webs very quickly. He is no longer in the war at lest not in person. R.I.P. A.D. age 22
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WOW! that sucks sorry to hear that.It should have been a cause,a cause to himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by karmaxul
a mite recipe soak three cigarette in water overnight then boil for three minutes then spray.Have anyone heard these and if u have does it work with perfection.Got the recipe from high timesQuote:
Originally Posted by bluntman2006
Sure nicoten is a natural insecticide. I would use all natural ciggerettes such as natives or senomas which are much cheaper any ways. If you grow it your self to use the most potent strain of tobacco is called rustica. Becarefull as it is very potent and has been used as arrow head poison in mexico and in movies by the CIA to take someone out in a stealth untracable manner. One drop of this stuff so I hear on the skin in pure form will stop the heart in under two minutes. An autopcy will show they were a smoker.
By the way has the new organic issue of high times reached the shelves yet?
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seven more days it will and thanks for the info too, karmaxuQuote:
Originally Posted by karmaxul
Tabacco juice is a very effective insect killer and repellent.
However, tabacco juice is also a very efficient weed killer.
Tobacco leaf farmers have no pesticide or weed problems. It is because of this weed killing function that I wouldn;t use it.
However, if you do it, a good prep I have read is...
Take about 5 oinches of chewing tobacco, boil in 1 gallon water for 5 minutes...Let cool one hour.
Strain thru some bitches pantyhose or something similar and there is your insecticide.
I would try it on a few leaves first...
But with mites, you gotta get the eggs.
Hell soap and water will kill the mites....but soap / nicotine / neem oil / etc...won;t kill the eggs...
I have heard using sulpher, as you would in mold control, will kill the eggs but have not tried it. The smell is just too bad...
That dimetrious earth or whatever it is can be placed in a bottle and 'poofed' under the leaves...it will slice right thru the eggs...but makes a hell of a mess.
its the eggs...gotta get them as their hatching and right after they hatch...they get really dark prior to hatching. With a really good scope, you can see the discarded shells....disgusting....
Good info Hardon...good to see you again!
Also if your going to try something new on your plant always give it a 24 hour spray test...just spray or apply to a lower branch and wait till the next day to see if it's ok to use on the whole plant.This goes for anything you use on your plants!:stoned:
...but I HATE the borg!!! If I could, I would crucify thier infants. But I would NEVER go so far as to potentionally harming/poisoning people I am attempting to provide MEDICINE for. Holy crap, what's a guy to do...? Due to my location and set up I have IDEAL conditions for meds and mites. This, my fellow growers is how you ERRADICATE these bastards...FOR REAL....
First, if you're deep into flower you're screwed. Cut it down, wrap it in a bag, and pitch it.
Also, assume, unless specified, all recomendations are in reference to vegative states. You must pre grow/between crop bomb with nuclear raid fogger. It's dry/smoke, no residue, and is a synthetic pyrithium base. Think Dr. Doom but instead of .4% active ingredient it's 12.6%. Ummmm, holy crap, YEAH!!!! I cooked some already mite stressed(raped) plants and they got fried. Oh well, better I killed them than the borg. The two moms I REALLY wanted pulled through it. Anyway, set the one off, wait 4/5 days hit it again. Then do a bleaching of your area. YOU MUST HAVE A HEPA or better FILTER on your intake!!!! For my application it wasnt cheap but considering the alternative...you will want to get some panty hose and affix them to your exhaust. Spray both openings where the air is drawn into the ducts,fans on, with your prefered NON OIL BASED miticide.
I, after weeks of research, have decided that hot shot no pest strips will be a part of my preventative maintance. I use these up to the third week of flower. As soon as I see flower transforming into bud they go into doubled up freezer bags in a cool dark place till next round. You cant be clean enough. These are your babies so treat them as such. For those of you that fear poison you immunate your kids right? My pesticide treatments are comparable. You wouldnt let some shady stranger around or pick up your kid. Dont let anyone in your room or cuttings without quarantine measures.
On a personal note, I STRONGLY recomend N E V E R partner up with someone unless you enjoy experiencing going through something similar to divorce. Remember, when it comes to your garden, except for lighting, air exchange, and diligence...LESS IS BEST !!!! Leave them girls be.
"Dont be molesting my girls or I'll fuck you up, man." I couldnt agree more.
Health, happiness, and prosperity to you all.