***A Link Between Marijuana & The Devil***

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Originally Posted by Sir Les

I believe as you come closer to the truth and God or that doorway to eternal life with God...the more the demons try to effect your reality!
Like what happened to Christ when he went into the wilderness to find God, and was confronted By Satan offering him Power and riches, if he only worshiped him...
Satan is in the world, and doesn't want us finding that doorway back to paradise , or God!

Subconsciencely the human laws might be playing on your mind!
Knowing it is illegal to have Marijuana, might have some effect on your state of mind, and behavior!
What you believe in, is of the utmost importance when using some of these plants God made!
You have to ground yourself to something true...and protect yourself and your spirit with truth...for there are demons about!

If you cannot control your mind, and body, you should not use the plant!
Knowing the truth will set you free!..there is no darkness unless you believe there is!...it has been conquered by Christ!
Marijuana has no sin!
Marijuana opens doorways in the mind, and connects to the spirit that is hidden inside yourself.
It is important to God, that you know the truth about the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil!...so both are there if you wish to find them!

Christ Said: "The devil is already in the world"
Be careful with yourself...I would burn that Ouija board if I were you!
Nothing good will come from it!
And asking spirits already dead to answer your questions, when the Bible has already done so, is asking to be lead down the wrong pathway!
If their is Evil...then the opposite exists!
Ground yourself in God's truth...and follow Christ!
Put back the tree of knowledge sinlessly under the sun, in good soil, and care for the plant, offer it up to God in thanksgiving, as sinlesly as possible!
Keep your spirit clean!

Ouija board...is not a toy!
And yes it opens another doorway to the spirit rhelm...these spirits are bound down to this reality, and will decieve you!
They will posses you, and make your life a living hell, if you let them into your reality!
I speak this to you as a warning...my Ant became possesed when using a Ouija board...she couldn't speak for months after the ordeal!
And her turning to the church and Christ our Lord, saved her from the demonic possesion!
They truned her into a wild mainiac, a lunitic...that could not speak a word ...all that came out of her were grunts and moans!
The doctors were baffeled...!
But it was her devotion to Christ, and God that saved her!
The power of prayer, and that strong conviction, caused them demons to leave....but I'm sure a dark cloud still hangs over her head for allowing that to happen!
Best not to go there!

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I can't think of anything else to quote better than this,to illustrate how I feel.

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Originally Posted by cokekilla

i say its all in ur mind man

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I just found that so damn hilarious...

everyone's trailing off with these drawn-out spiritual and religious replies.. like.. really insightful and carefully considered..

then you get that

I love it :clap:

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

I'm all about openmindedly considering possibilities...

but this sounds more psychological than spiritual...

Is what you connect to external or internal?

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He's jacking-in for sure.

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Originally Posted by Sir Les

I believe as you come closer to the truth and God or that doorway to eternal life with God...the more the demons try to effect your reality!
Like what happened to Christ when he went into the wilderness to find God, and was confronted By Satan offering him Power and riches, if he only worshiped him...
Satan is in the world, and doesn't want us finding that doorway back to paradise , or God!

Subconsciencely the human laws might be playing on your mind!
Knowing it is illegal to have Marijuana, might have some effect on your state of mind, and behavior!
What you believe in, is of the utmost importance when using some of these plants God made!
You have to ground yourself to something true...and protect yourself and your spirit with truth...for there are demons about!

If you cannot control your mind, and body, you should not use the plant!
Knowing the truth will set you free!..there is no darkness unless you believe there is!...it has been conquered by Christ!
Marijuana has no sin!
Marijuana opens doorways in the mind, and connects to the spirit that is hidden inside yourself.
It is important to God, that you know the truth about the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil!...so both are there if you wish to find them!

Christ Said: "The devil is already in the world"
Be careful with yourself...I would burn that Ouija board if I were you!
Nothing good will come from it!
And asking spirits already dead to answer your questions, when the Bible has already done so, is asking to be lead down the wrong pathway!
If their is Evil...then the opposite exists!
Ground yourself in God's truth...and follow Christ!
Put back the tree of knowledge sinlessly under the sun, in good soil, and care for the plant, offer it up to God in thanksgiving, as sinlesly as possible!
Keep your spirit clean!

Ouija board...is not a toy!
And yes it opens another doorway to the spirit rhelm...these spirits are bound down to this reality, and will decieve you!
They will posses you, and make your life a living hell, if you let them into your reality!
I speak this to you as a warning...my Ant became possesed when using a Ouija board...she couldn't speak for months after the ordeal!
And her turning to the church and Christ our Lord, saved her from the demonic possesion!
They truned her into a wild mainiac, a lunitic...that could not speak a word ...all that came out of her were grunts and moans!
The doctors were baffeled...!
But it was her devotion to Christ, and God that saved her!
The power of prayer, and that strong conviction, caused them demons to leave....but I'm sure a dark cloud still hangs over her head for allowing that to happen!
Best not to go there!

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nutbar:hippy:

all one can expect from this friendly herb is an altered way of looking at what you see every day. what you do with that altered perception is entirely up to you. this poor downtrodden plant is neither good nor evil. it is neither a conduit toward the godhead nor a tool of the devil. it is merely another sort of window through which to view the world.

I've had this feeling STRONGLY whilst on mushrooms..... for awhile i thought they may be the forbidden fruit of today.... but i've learned they are the purest evil, and the purest good formed into one, and when you take them, you perceive good, and evil simultaneously.

Just don't get consumed by this evil, and fight it with positive thoughts of love, friendship, dreams, good memories, and thoughts of wonder.

If making me feel like I have love for every living creature in the universe, and forgiveness for George Bush's sins is evil, then I am going to hell with a smile of my face.

First of all, thank you to everyone that replied to the original post. It has been over a year and I appreciate all of the advice you have a given. I have read each and every post and considered what you have had to say.

I think this is an excellent topic and I'm glad people got involved. I still believe there is a spiritual connection when high, I guess maybe your mind can go either direction: good or evil. Yes, it is a mental and psychological experience. Obviously. But where does spirituality come to play? What makes the mind think the way that it does? Am I crazy then if I have dark thoughts? I don't think so.

There is no explanation for it, each person is unique. My situation now is totally different than it was before. I can't even smoke marijuana. Legally. I'm on probation until August 2008, I haven't smoked since October 2005. Ouch. UA's and BA's are bullshit. Alcohol or coke don't even come close to the high I get on weed.

But this experience has been for the better. I'm clear-headed now and found myself a girlfriend. We're living together and the future looks bright. I also got a new job and my financial situation has improved. Not bad for being sober.

So does it suck no being able to smoke? You know the answer to that one. It blows. But on the otherhand, the evil connection is gone and my life is on the upswing. Am I counting down to 8/08? You better believe it. But I'm taking this 'sober' time to create a foundation for this new life of mine.

I will smoke again and for the rest of my life. I love it. But right now I'm good where I'm at and stuff happens for a reason. The spiritual link I have when I smoke will always be there and I'm ready to try again in about a year. Heaven and hell on earth is what I always say.

Thanks again for all the replies.

:weedpoke:

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Originally Posted by zscorpio5281

Hello all-

(This is my first post so I apologize if this topic has been mentioned before.)

I'm just curious if anyone feels a sense of 'evil' whenever high. [...] So is there a link between marijuana and the devil? I researched this and didn't find too much information, but I guess satanists used marijuana in a ritual to summon the devil/demons way back in the 1700's. And I guess other groups used it sporadically throughout history. Nothing much has been reported on this topic though.

I'm curious because I have felt some sort of connection that I never felt before in my entire life. Thanks everyone.

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I'm gonna throw in one more reply. First of all, let me say I'm glad your life is on the 'upswing' and the 'evil connection' is gone. Congratulations!

I'm a Christian who believes the Bible is the source for good theology. I don't know if your background is Christian as well, but I'm going to make a guess that it is since you're referring to the devil and demons.

Whether or not there is a link between cannabis and Satan/evil depends who you talk to. Of course an Atheist would just laugh at you and say, "What devil?" An Agnostic would say, "Don't ask me, how am I supposed to know?" A moral relativist would say, "Evil? There's no such thing as evil." And a Satanist would say, "Follow your evil heart and do whatever it desires."

If you ask me, my answer will be based on the Christian Scriptures, the Bible... not on any particular philosophy or church tradition. I follow the Scriptures, not any particular pope or pastor.

The Bible doesn't mention cannabis clearly. Anyone who says it does is either lying or they are stretching a verse and trying too hard to make it fit their preconceived ideas. But it doesn't have to list every mind-altering substance (and probably couldn't if it wanted to, since the list is huge and is constantly growing as people invent and discover new substances over time). It doesn't have to list them all because... the Bible *does* mention alcohol.

So we can use what it says about that potentially "mental changing" or "mind altering" substance and apply it to other drugs. Its not the perfect analogy since they are very different drugs and alcohol is more dangerous, but since that's the closest we can get... we would be wise to see if we can find any similarities at all in what we know about God's feelings toward alcohol.

The Bible and promotes the moderate use of the substance. However, it also warns against abusing it either by addiction, be it habitual or physical, or by overuse (using too much of it at once until you're out of control and can't walk, think, or function well). In other words, addiction and drunkenness are both sins; they're both "evil".

By that, we can understand that if you are addicted to cannabis (habitually at least... since it usually isn't physically addictive) then you are probably committing a sin. Its a hard question to determine if you're habitually addicted... but try stopping for a week. If you can do that with little or no effort, then you're probably fine. If you get very irritable/angry or extremely frustrated... you should probably cut back. The Bible says we should not be controlled by anything other then God. That means we should be able to maintain our joy in life without depending on some substance to give us that joy.

We can also understand if you're getting "too high", you're probably committing a sin. Do you get high enough to have a moderate buzz, become more creative and/or relaxed, and enjoy the good times and then stop? Or do you get so high you can hardly think and/or function? If you get high to that extreme degree when you smoke, then you probably are committing a sin and need to smoke less. Again, we aren't to be controlled by anything. If you're getting so high that you can't function, they you're giving up control of your mind and body to a foreign substance... and that is a sin (except in the case of medicinal use, as the book of Proverbs mentions in reference to strong liquor).

Any sin (be it drug abuse, adultery, pornography, orgies, homosexuality, lying, cheating, etc.) can be pathways to Satan, or another way to think about it is that those are the pathways he wants you to take to become more like him. He is pure evil. Try to avoid any sin, and it then follows that you would be avoiding Satan as well. If you're a Christian, you can go a step further and try reading your Bible and praying every morning like the example Christ set for us. Pray, like Christ did in his example prayer for us titled 'the Lord's Prayer', for deliverance from evil. Hopefully your thoughts will become more like his, peaceful, wise, and joyful, instead of being inclined towards evil.

We all face temptations and have evil thoughts at times though, that is part of being human. Christians won't be rid of their sinful nature totally until they are made to be like Christ in heaven, with their new body. But the closer we draw to Christ and the more we become like him, the less we are influenced by evil.

Satan is very real. He is nothing to be afraid of, however. His influence in the Christian's life can diminish to next to nothing if we become more and more like Christ. Our own sinful nature is much more dangerous than the external influence of Satan. Try to battle sin as much as possible. With faith in Christ, it will be winning battle.

I don't know what you were feeling, but it was probably harry anslinger...