buddhism and weed

Technically any drugs, be it alcohol, cigs, or pot, are against the tenants of the Buddhist religion.

However, its not something where they say that you will burn in hell for doing it, they simply state that to reach true enlightenment, you are not supposed to do them. They affect your mind, they alter your mind, and doing that is supposed to prevent you from being able to acheive true enlightenment and such.

That being said, there are known sects of Buddhist monks that use alcohol/drugs, and I havent met a Buddhist yet who has said a negative thing towards them or personal use of them, just that they believe using them makes acheiving true enlightenment near impossible.

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Originally Posted by larry

Using/Doing Anything daily = Addiction

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Ok so im addicted to school, work, food, green, music, life....I think thats a bit of an extreme wouldn't you agree? I see where your coming from but life is a(n) unidentified pattern after all. Hey maybe its just me

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Originally Posted by thecreator

Ok so im addicted to school, work, food, green, music, life....I think thats a bit of an extreme wouldn't you agree? I see where your coming from but life is a(n) unidentified pattern after all. Hey maybe its just me

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No, its not just you. Under that broad definition, our entire "day to day" lives are an addiction.

Breathing, sleeping, eating, drinking, blinking, thinking, walking, seeing, etc etc... these are all consider addictions according to that definition?

Now yes, some of those things you can have a legitimate addiction to, but can you have a legitimate addiction to breathing? Because I havent been able to kick that habit for almost 22 years now...

The spirit behind the definition is understandable, but the way it was put is way too wide to be usable in any way.

I think the 'internalization' effect of cannabis, may guide many to the realization that our lives are a result of a more inner consious decision, that in turn manifests itself in a more mundane form. In a nutshell, the things we experience with sight, touch etc. are a bi-product of our inner self, and our 'subconcious' clarity/decisions.
I've been living in this mockery of unshakeable 'nirvana', due to my seeming inability to attain this level of bliss, in the absence of our favorite herb.

(...wow man, what a fuckin' stoner thing to say:D)

The interesting thing about nirvana according to buddhism, is that if you think you have obtained it, then you havent. Its such a puzzling concept, I dont think I could really fully grasp every aspect of it unless I was experiencing it at the moment.

Although it does make sense in a way to me... but still, the concept of "if you realize you are here, then you are not here" is an interesting one.

I think it refers to a sort of diffusion of self, amongst environment. Freeing ones self into a force of no limits,...maybe the same force that seems to guide so many people in mysterious ways.

I always hear of the "clouding the mind" stuff from a Buddhists take on drugs yet some of the active chemicals which can be classed as psychoactive ingredients are readily produced naturally in our bodies. Says science.

Clearly the use of drugs such as DMT alters ones state of consciousness as will meditation, DMT is also as everybody knows naturally produced in the brain. I donâ??t really believe in removing these certain entities such as sex, drugs, and whatever, they are here to stay and they are a natural process of evolution.

These drugs we speak of are nothing more than the creation of certain chemicals and thus feelings within the brain, one could create the same feeling of warmth and well being from having viewed a beautiful landscape or a breathtakingly admiring thought of a loved one.

It is only natural for humans to explore different states of consciousness (it is only a shame that we have been given degraded, unnatural, processed, synthesized methods and substances such as alcohol, cocaine, meth and so forth) it is a matter of opinion to say that drugs cloud the mind and are bad, humans have been using hallucinogenic drugs since the dawn of time. And we are still here using them, do some research on the ancient and vast knowledge of the cosmos these civilisations had and you will be shocked when you realise how much MORE they knew than us.

Well the idea of nirvana is freedom from everything. Everything, included preconceived notions and thoughts, which means if you think that you are in nirvana, you have not freed yourself, therefore you arent in nirvana.

At least thats how I have always interpretted it.

I dont know if Id ever be able to acheive it, because every time I feel that light wispy touch of enlightenment and revelation, I try to grasp it, because its such a wonderful, unique, one of a kind feeling that comes along so rarely.

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Well the idea of nirvana is freedom from everything. Everything, included preconceived notions and thoughts, which means if you think that you are in nirvana, you have not freed yourself, therefore you arent in nirvana.

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So would nirvana = death?

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Originally Posted by DSX 1

So would nirvana = death?

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According to Buddism, and Buddha, death is just a concept created by humans, and not something that actually happens.

We are never born, and we never die, because you can not create or destroy matter. We are "born" when the conditions are sufficient for us to manifest ourselves, and we "die" when those conditions are no longer there.

Nirvana is escape from everything. Including the concept of escape and the concept of everything.

And the concept of concepts. :p