Faith doesn't mean anything. It just means you believe something that there is no viable reason to believe. It has no place an a debate such as this.
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Faith doesn't mean anything. It just means you believe something that there is no viable reason to believe. It has no place an a debate such as this.
damn! i am sober
Are you saying that there is no room for the word faith in a religious discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
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You are clearly not understanding faith....Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious
you are asking for proof in order to have faith....
Buy definition thatâ??s not how faith works.
Like I said I don't think we are getting the whole story but I believe the books basics principles to be true.
And I believe that the book has been divinely inspired.
No, that's not precisely what i'm saying. When discussing if one believes in God then yes, faith will play a big part in the discussion. But when discussing whether or not God actually exists, I don't think faith has anything to do with it. Faith does not prove anything, and it never will. That is the nature of faith. It should not even be mentioned and should never be used as an argument in itself.
If you choose to believe that there is no GodQuote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Than that choice is ultimately grounded in faith itself.
I'm telling you, God is pot...spelled backwards, upside down, and, sort of, illiterate.
I dont believe at all........
I cant believe in a book that was created thousands of years ago.I mean if someone went around now sayin that they were jesus or that jesus wanted them to write a bible they would get tossed in the loony bin.
but hey opinions are like a**holes..........
lol beachguy
likemclever, I don't see it as faith. It's a conclusion drawn from the available evidence, or in this case, lack of evidence.
Anybody could claim that anything exists; if I were to argue it would not be up to me to prove that it doesn't exist, it would be up to the person making the claim to prove that it does. Until that happens it is assumed that said thing does not exist, and to argue would be, well, stupid and completely illogical.
God to me, is not some dude up in Heaven looking down and saying things like... "That man is a sinner! I want his balls chopped off, LOL!" Naw, I think God is... everything. I am God and the world around me is God. I'm more of a believer in Mother Nature, then in a certain make-believe, long haired jew. Yeah, Jesus... Don't believe he's coming back. But I'm not sure if he really existed... if he did then props to him, cause he had some pretty interesting ideas.