Bush and the hurricane

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

But he is correct about the Bush Administration spending money that your country doesn't even have. And he is correct in saying that the interest on these debts is going to keep your country in debt for a hell of a long time. And why? Because you want to install democracy all over the world, when it hasn't even worked properly for you....


Edit: Oh, and Amsterdam, what do you say about ArtRollins thinking you and Torog are the same person? lol

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america is the most democratic nation in the world,there is no arguing that.it hasnt worked here?really?okay.

debt,debt,debt blah,blah,blah,IT WAS CUT IN HALF LAST YEAR?bet you didnt know that,its like the story about army recruiting wich they try to say is sooo low.when in reality they are operating at 150% with enlistment going up.

Torogs a good guy but he is much,much more conservative than i have ever been.i am middle of the road but to the right a little bit.i find it wierd that some think i am some neo-con when in reality i am average

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

its as if you live on another planet,what economy are you talking about being so bad.too funny.your speaking for the minority.even one of my far,far,far left boss's admits the economy is going strong.

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And your planet obviously does not base its currency on?? Paper with backing of ???? 700 Trillion in debt at 8 percent per annum with 230 million taxpayers is ???? Whose economy is based on a piece of paper called a "Federal Reserve Note". Do we understand that a "note" is a indebtedness? An IOU. Your funny fiat paper is IOU's not money. And you owe trillions of IOU's more. Do you even understand what an economy is? Your intelligence is immeasurable in its lack of comprehension. You are, as I pointed out before, taken in the program with beer and sports. You need to study to be an American. You are a United States corporate pawn right now.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

america is the most democratic nation in the world,there is no arguing that.it hasnt worked here?really?okay.

debt,debt,debt blah,blah,blah,IT WAS CUT IN HALF LAST YEAR?bet you didnt know that,its like the story about army recruiting wich they try to say is sooo low.when in reality they are operating at 150% with enlistment going up.

Torogs a good guy but he is much,much more conservative than i have ever been.i am middle of the road but to the right a little bit.i find it wierd that some think i am some neo-con when in reality i am average

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America was and is supposed to be a Republic. I bet you do not even know the difference. America is supposed to have inalienable rights. They have been supplanted with "rule of law." Rule of law is repugnant to the Constitution in every way.

They cut no such debt you miss-information shit. Show me the document! Debt increases stratospherically each second and you can find the counters all over the Internet. Are you completely stupid? Fucking agent. You are lying about the enlistment too, document on the government site please? Where did you get that figure from your residue this morning?

You are just getting me more pissed. Keep this up and I will have my Chicago relatives find out who and where you are, and you will be very surprised at where I can write.

You and TOROGS are one and the same, what is this fight club?

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Originally Posted by ArtRollins

America was and is supposed to be a Republic. I bet you do not even know the difference. America is supposed to have inalienable rights. They have been supplanted with "rule of law." Rule of law is repugnant to the Constitution in every way.

They cut no such debt you miss-information shit. Show me the document! Debt increases stratospherically each second and you can find the counters all over the Internet. Are you completely stupid? Fucking agent. You are lying about the enlistment too, document on the government site please? Where did you get that figure from your residue this morning?

You are just getting me more pissed. Keep this up and I will have my Chicago relatives find out who and where you are, and you will be very surprised at where I can write.

You and TOROGS are one and the same, what is this fight club?

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hahaha,go fuck yourself with those funny threats,you sound more like a CIA agent than a reporter.i would be more than happy for you to write about my opinions in a opinion piece.please.i represent the vast majority kiddo.

and your a news reporter?no wonder all the polls say america dosent subscribe to your crackpot ideas anymore.those days are over my friend.welcome to the new media world.as tDonald Trump would say,"YOU'RE FIRED!"

Amsterdam, have a look at this site... it is the US national debt to the penny.

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Seems like your national debt is increasing by at least a billion dollars every single day. And it also looks like the debt hasn't been reduced AT ALL for at least 18 years.

(Source: US Treasury Department's Bureau Of The Public Debt)

Here's another US National Debt Clock. It shows pretty much the same thing....

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

How can you argue with that, Amdam?

Dudes... there's no need for threats, violent or otherwise. So you guys have a difference of opinion? Shit, it happens all the time. Just shrug it off and laugh about how the other guy is so dumb. :)

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

Dudes... there's no need for threats, violent or otherwise. So you guys have a difference of opinion? Shit, it happens all the time. Just shrug it off and laugh about how the other guy is so dumb. :)

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I only "threaten" to find out who he is and write about it. As you see and helped point out, it is a difference of facts, not opinion.

I actually have a deadline for midnight for a UK newspaper, this might go well in. Can I get some more info from you Adam? Like answer to the agent question? Are you an agent for the government? Avoidance is necessary as a wrong answer would offend the boss yes?

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

no wonder all the polls say america dosent subscribe to your crackpot ideas anymore.!"

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Exactly what polls are you referring to Amsterdam? These ones?


The New York Times

Poll: Bush Performance Ratings PlummetConcerns on Iraq and Domestic Policy Underlie a Rising Political Alienation
Analysis by Gary Langer

June 7, 2005 â?? The corrosive effects of the war in Iraq and a growing disconnect on political priorities have pushed George W. Bush's performance ratings â?? notably on terrorism â?? to among the worst of his career, casting a pall over his second term and potentially over his party's prospects ahead.

For the first time, most Americans, 55 percent, say Bush has done more to divide than to unite the country. A career-high 52 percent disapprove of his job performance overall, and, in another first, a bare majority rates him unfavorably on a personal level. Most differ with him on issues ranging from the economy and Social Security to stem-cell research and nuclear power.



PDF of Poll


Exclusive: Bush Says Focus Must Be on People
Bush Taps Father, Clinton for Relief Help
Iranian President Gets Terror Law Exception

Iraq is a major thorn. With discontent over U.S. casualties at a new peak, a record 58 percent say the war there was not worth fighting. Nearly two-thirds think the United States has gotten bogged down in Iraq, up 11 points since March. Forty-five percent go so far as to foresee the equivalent of another Vietnam.

Fifty-two percent, the first majority to say so, think the Iraq war has failed to improve the long-term security of the United States, its fundamental rationale. As an extension â?? and perhaps most hazardously in political terms â?? approval of Bush's handling of terrorism, the base of his support, has lost 11 points since January to match its low, 50 percent in June 2004 when it was pressured both by the presidential campaign and the kidnapping and slaying of American Paul Johnson in Saudi Arabia.

All these underscore a broad sense of lost promise for the president: In January, 55 percent of Americans expected Bush to do a better job in his second term than in his first. Today, vastly fewer, 30 percent, say in fact he's doing so. And even though they remain staunchly supportive, the letdown in expectations is biggest in Bush's own back yard, among Republicans.


Parties and Politics

These views are accompanied by a sense of alienation not just from the president but from both parties in Washington. Disapproval of Congress, at 54 percent, is its highest in more than six years, and six in 10 Americans say Bush and the Republicans, who control both Houses, are not making good progress in solving the nation's problems.

About as many also say neither Bush nor the Republicans are concentrating on what's important to them personally. And the Democrats in Congress barely fare better: Fifty-three percent say they're not concentrating on the right issues either.

On balance, Americans now slightly favor the Democrats over the Republicans, by 46 percent-41 percent, in trust to deal with the country's problems, the first Democratic advantage in this question, however slight, in ABC/Post polls since 9/11. Nonetheless, the Democrats seem to have capitalized only marginally at best on the current discontent. Fifty-six percent of Americans disapprove of the job performance of both parties in Congress, and both have seen their basic favorability ratings slide to about the 50-50 mark.

Or these?

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

Or is it this one?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/27/bush.poll/