From a Republican.....

People, people... Every month I see a new batch of young whipper-snappers trying to make Torog change his views.. I've been there myself, and realized there is absolutely no point. Just smile and nod :D Just kidding... But Torog's got a hard head, and he's set in his ways!

All I know is that people who don't understand the world's contempt and resentment towards the US ( I refuse to say America because the US does not have the monopoly on 'America'... There's Canada and Mexico, not to mention the whole of South America) need only to look at the Michael Jackson trial. First of all ,it's fornt page news for some strange reason. Second, the paedophile freak got off not guilty on all counts. These are symptoms of a severely diseased country and culture.

all that from a canadian whos country is becoming more like us every year.lol.

what happened to the "universal" health care in Quebec?maybe now you guys wont be coming to America to get treatment for disese's?lol.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

all that from a canadian whos country is becoming more like us every year.lol.

what happened to the "universal" health care in Quebec?maybe now you guys wont be coming to America to get treatment for disese's?lol.

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The problem is not the system, it's the doctors whgo get paid crap and have no motivation to work well and fast.

Here's a little story: Nearly 2 years ago I got Hodgkin's disease, a kind of cancer. I went to see my doctor, one whos' been with my family for years. He got me every test within weeks of each other, including various x-rays, ct scans, gallium scans, and even surgery. maybe two months later, I started chemotherapy. Now I'm all good, and I didn't pay a cent for anything.

Universal health care sucks. :rolleyes:

amsterdam, you have no clue what you're talking about.

BEsides, what the fuck does the government of my country have anything to do with me? I didn't vote for those assholes, and I think Paul Martin is a huge pussy, and Jean Charest (PM of Quebec) is an even bigger asshole.

What do they have to do with me??

then why do soooooooooooo many people waiting on lists to receive treatment come to america where they get it faster. :confused:

i say good for quebec.smart people up there.

they dont have anything to do with you,i just think the people are seeing the light.

i will quote your supreme court.

"in the case of certain surgical procedures,the delays that are the necessary result of waiting lists increase the patients risk of mortality or the risk that his or her injuries will become irreparable," justice marie deschamps wrote for the majority."many patients on non-urgent waiting lists are in pain and cannot fully enjoy any real quality of life.the right to life and to personal inviolability is therefore affected by the waiting lines."

i dont want a big govt health care system that kills people and causes suffering.

this was also a victory for the health care debate in this country.

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then why do soooooooooooo many people waiting on lists to receive treatment come to america where they get it faster. :confused:

i say good for quebec.smart people up there.

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Right amsterdam. I forgot how you conveniently forgot that alot of canadians who go to the U.S. do so because they want faster treatment not better treatment. The people who move down south do so because they've got big piggy banks and know how quickly americans move when large sums of money are involved. While you sit there and laugh at how rich canadians seek help from america why dont you pull up some files to find out how many poor americans go to canada.

Big deal, Canadians go south for faster health care, how about the millions of Americans who go north for cheaper drugs?

im not saying we are any better,but the america bashing that goes on up there falls on deaf ears here.

heard you guys busted up an al queda ring in Ottawa.HEADS UP!!