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even if humans corrupts religion, its always ending with violence. the WORST AND WORST wars are bout religions. thats stupid. i think nobody can understand god. humans wrote a book abo ut god as if it was sooo simple. i dont wanna waste my time being in a religion created by humans. i guess there may be a superior force, but even there, im not sure. anyway i still fully respect any others opinions. but thats just mine :)

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Originally Posted by Gumby

and stedric, the only thing worse about quibbling about religion is quibbling about quibbling over religion, so go post on a different thread if you don't want to talk about it ok :)

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Sorry, I wasn't trying to start anything. I was trying to say that just because I'm non-christian doesn't mean I have any spite for the religion (just those who do awful things in its name). Could have phrased it better, my bad.

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Originally Posted by Gumby

the thing with the galaxies is that most don't have a set of rock planets and a set of gaseos planet... they are mainly, or all that we can see right now, are surrounded by larger planets made of gas, much like if Jupiter were to be were venus would be...

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That's because we can't detect small rocky planets with even the best resolution. We can barely see small pertubations on different stars due to massive Jupiter like planets.

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the Keiper (sp) Belt is what makes our home a little different and gives us the protection we need for the more rockier planets.

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Where are you getting this information?

I'm not trying to debate, just curiosity. I happen to be a semester away from getting my B.S. in Astronomy.

I don't agree that we are a mistake. Were just the result of an infinite amount of subatomic particles dancing around in space. 8)

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Originally Posted by Gumby

It looked like an average star but when they tried to look at it specifically they realized that it was much further away but still as bright and big.

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Got anymore info? Location? Telescope and technique used? There have been NUMEROUS times where massive stars with over 100 solar masses have been discovered... later to be resolved as a binary system or simply bad data.

I hate to hijack a Christina thread with science... but, oh well...

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Originally Posted by stickygreenlightsabr

Where are you getting this information?

I'm not trying to debate, just curiosity. I happen to be a semester away from getting my B.S. in Astronomy.

I don't agree that we are a mistake. Were just the result of an infinite amount of subatomic particles dancing around in space. 8)

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I get most of my info from things I have read or watched... ever since i've been young I've had a weird thing for space. It's a subject I enjoy learning about and seem to understand and can think about in a different manner.


See, I think we are a mistake... because if you think about it we have evolved intelligently as humans for at most a few million years, and within the past 200 years have only discovered part of our own planet. If this universe is as old as I think it is there are billions and billions of years inwhich no evolution of intelligence occured, otherwise they would have millions of years to figure out how to travel through space. A challange humans figures out in a second compared to the life of the universe.

I just think that if there was even another planet with life in our solar system the chances that they took the same evolutionary path as us and became intelligent is too unlikely. So one planet out of a solar system isn't that great. Yes I think there is life out there and it's probably on a large amount of planets and moons... but if it was as even as close to being as smart as we are I don't see how we could not have known of thier existance, or why they would not make sure we knew they existed.

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Originally Posted by stickygreenlightsabr

Got anymore info? Location? Telescope and technique used? There have been NUMEROUS times where massive stars with over 100 solar masses have been discovered... later to be resolved as a binary system or simply bad data.

I hate to hijack a Christina thread with science... but, oh well...

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no data he wouldn't let that slip... like i said it was just one day during class when it slipped what he had been working on... i guess it was on his mind. But it wasn't a binary star, and am sure it wasn't bad data. He sounded as if he had been watching and mapping it's movement and had it pretty well documented at the time.

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Originally Posted by sawleaf

I am a Christian, but to me religion is a very personal thing. You are wasting your time if you think you can preach to others and they will understand your views automatically. This site is full of thousands of different people with many different view points, and you can't expect everyone to agree with your views. Just live your life for the Lord and don't push your views on anyone else. Everyone has different views and I respect and accept others for who they are. I personally don't take the Bible literally. To me, it is not so much a history book, as it is a guide book. Yes you are right, there are a lot of people who stereotype Christians and really know nothing about Christianity, but can you blame them for their ignorance? There so many different types of Christians out there and most people form stereotypes based on bad experiences. People get the wrong idea about Christianity, because it is warped now. Organized religion is what causes people to stray from the true meaning of it. Wheather it be Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, etc. No religion starts out bad. It is man who corrupts it, yet we always like to blame the religion.

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... Well put bro.. i am a Christian, but wasnt always...
i struggled for years to give up cigaretts and booze and other harmfull substances, but it wasnt untill i repented of my sins and accepted Christ that i found a new strength to overcome my lower nature.. i can honestly say i have never been happier..
i know where i am going when i die..
i still gro and smoke my own, God created the herb so what man is to deny it - only the man against God and nature..
I do not go in for all this American bullshit capitalist evangelism..Benny HIN and the like.. man they are evil.. Billy graham and Hin are both rumered to be hi up in the MASONS..and have strong connections with the whore of babylon -the Catholic church.. :(

HOW COME WHITE CHRISTIANS USED TO HANG BLACK CHRISTIANS FROM TREES??????

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Originally Posted by smokin poet

HOW COME WHITE CHRISTIANS USED TO HANG BLACK CHRISTIANS FROM TREES??????

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That doesn't mean anything. Ever heard of the Thirty Years' War? Int he 17th century in Europe, there was widespread war and civil war because of mass conversions to protestantism. That's white Europeans killing white europeans, in the name of one brand of christianity against another... Shit happens in the name of religion all the time, but it doesn't mean the religion actually condones it.

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Originally Posted by smokin poet

HOW COME WHITE CHRISTIANS USED TO HANG BLACK CHRISTIANS FROM TREES??????

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Was your intention to link these actions with the philosophy of christianity?