Hawaiian Snow Grow Log #001

Ok quick update/question. We did some pH testing today but since budget is low lately we went with one of those liquid test kits. You know the ones you mix the water in a tube with a liquid and gets a certain colour... so accuracy is out of the question but still we have a general idea. Water pH according to the water company in my area is at 7.4pH. Kit shows something around 8 so I guess that was right. Water run-off from the pot indicate a pH of around 6. So that means that the soil pH atm is still around 6 that should be good? Or I have to compare this with the pH of the water going in and somehow come up with the soil pH?
I did get a pH- solution though to adjust my water and found out that more or less 1ml/gallon brings it down to approximately 6. Should I just add that to my water every time to play safe? Or at least safer than watering with a pH of ~7.5-8.0+ ?

Next thing on my shopping list is a digital pH meter for sure... I just wish there was something that I could test directly in soil... I feel like I have to over-water em every time I want to get a pH measurement and I hate that... especially with my humidity problem... :(

Peace,
:hippy:

Ok I hope there are still some of you watching this cause if not I'm screwed. Everything was going well. If you've been following me up I'm currently overseas and my brother is looking after them. Didn't have access to internet and today that my line was finally shorted I found those pictures in my email...
I really need some feedback here pls... :(

Edit:

1. Those symptoms are as it is shown on 3/9 plants on several leaves. The picture indicates the worst one.
2. Those red dot's are not eggs, insects etc. Just some soil residue.
3. Sprayed with neem oil just in case.
4. Plants were watered on Sunday but not fertilized.

Re-attaching photo in higher resolution

Thanks
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Are the effected plants by chance ones that were FIMed? If there's any ruff housing with the new growth bud (FIM comes to mind ;) ) it can damage forming leaves causing abnormality's like that. I've had leaves that were missing chunks grow in, some of the leaves on my White Widow SCROG wound up curled off to the side because half the leaf was stunted by being pressed against the wire while it was forming.

Keep an eye on em for sure, :weedpoke: but they look pretty happy over all ;) :hippy:

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Originally Posted by canniwhatsis

Are the effected plants by chance ones that were FIMed? If there's any ruff housing with the new growth bud (FIM comes to mind ;) ) it can damage forming leaves causing abnormality's like that. I've had leaves that were missing chunks grow in, some of the leaves on my White Widow SCROG wound up curled off to the side because half the leaf was stunted by being pressed against the wire while it was forming.

Keep an eye on em for sure, :weedpoke: but they look pretty happy over all ;) :hippy:

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Just talked with my bro on the phone. He says the holes are only on one plant (and yes it is one of the 2 FIMed ones) but if you notice on the pic, there is a de-colouration around the holes (he says its yellowish but photo sucks...) that appear in 2-3 more plants without the holes though. So I don't think it's the FIMing... Or maybe it is in the one with the wholes (only in 2 leaves btw) and the yellowing is something else that just happened to occur at the same time? Told him to stop fertilizing for a while to see how it goes... Also told him to make some more pictures and try to make em decent too later when he gets back from work so I will update you hopefully later on...

I feel my head is going to blow up from the stress.
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Is it not possible that the holes are from the water being sprayed on the leaves - thus causing a burn from the light? Just a thought if the spraying is still being done.

Ok quick update as promised. The holes on those 2 leaves remain the same 2 days after so I'm guessing it's not some pests or something. Did spray neem oil anyway just in case and will do so every week for a couple more weeks at least as precaution.

The small yellowish dots remain the same too. Plants received a good watering today with plain tap water rested for 3 days and pH adjusted to 6.5. Soil pH tested at ~6.5 as well using distilled water. (Photos 01-02-03)

On pic 04 you can see one of the 2 plants that received FIMing about a week ago. It doesn't look well, no new tops (those seem to be just the leaves that were left there during FIMing) and the plant is stretching like crazy ever since... Pic 05 is the other one that received FIMing, obviously in a better state although I think there is some mutation on the top leaf. Also it's the one that the holes appeared on those 2 leaves... Asides that though she looks good.

So the questions are,

1. what are those little yellow dots? Even if I don't have anything to worry about I still wish to learn from those experiences.
2. Should I worry about the holes/mutation on the FIMed plant?
3. Should I top or train the other FIMed one that didn't grow tops but is stretching like an ass? Or should I just tie her down. They are around 30cm each as of now and will let em grow another 10-15 (so around 1 week to 10 days, dunno if enough to recover from topping...)

Here are another 2 pics of her, nodes very spread apart and stretching like a bitch, she's around 37cm tall in this one.
(pic 06)
And here's another with all of them to compare. She's at the top left corner obviously ;)
(pic 07)
So what should I do with her?

Also here's another pic of the FIMed one with the holes/dots/mutation...
(pic 08)

Once again thank you for the support and understanding. I know I'm a PITA getting all stressed and everything but I'll get over it with time and experience, just love em too much and want to learn as much as I can to avoid same mistakes in future grows! Seeing those new pics (you know I'm overseas atm) I do realize that most probably that fucker of a brother of mine just scared the shit out of me for nothing since those "yellow dots" he described are tiny and very few and plants look healthy overall, but still...

Peace,
:hippy:

Time for photo update. Taken on Feb 21st, exactly 1 month from potting, 39 days old from seed. At the end of this week (roughly 4 weeks of vegetation) lights will be switched to 12/12!!! :thumbsup:

They all look nice and healthy and stand at around 16" tall. Asides no9 that continues to stretch like a mofo... And imagine she's one of the two FIMed ones... Any ideas on what should I do with her? Nodes are very far apart and she's almost 20" tall already and still in vegetation... :wtf: Anyway here are the pics so you can judge for yourselves. (If anyone is still watching that is, haven't gotten feedback in ages :()

1. Two of my non FIMed babies, top view!
2. The two FIMed ones, no5 and no9, clearly not the same reaction... :wtf:
3. Took her a while for the central top to come back out on no9 but it's here now! :D
4. Here's no5, it did react better to the FIMing in terms of growth but got all stressed out and mutated a couple of her new leaves... Plus the holes incident on the leaves last week... :( She's still looking good and strong though! :thumbsup:
5. And here's a picture of all of them. A more or less even canopy and there she is, no9 ruining the harmony... I could really use some ideas on what to do with her... LST maybe once in flowering? She'll end up messing with the light the rest receive and that's not an option... :weedpoke:

Anyway that's all for now, will make some more pictures just before turning the lights to 12/12, but hopefully next big update will have some buds in for our eyes to feast on!!! :rastasmoke:

PS. Btw, should I start molasses once in flowering? If yes should I use em on every watering (1ml/l) or just when feeding? And should I use em till harvest or stop em together with the ferts a week before?


Peace,
:hippy:

Haven't been keeping this log up to date for quite some time though. Real life stuff and lack of interest/replies to my posts kept me from doing so. Girls went all well after all, today 9 weeks into flowering and all 9 of them survive.
Had some problems pre flowering with a heavy nut burn, and also timer went caput and they were left to veg one extra week before we noticed (lights have been on 24/7 it seems) and some of them were already 80cm tall by the time of the swotch to 12/12 so we went into rootbound problems mid flowering too... The crappy fan went bust as well so humidity was in between 70-80% throughout the flowering stage and lately temps have been over 25C as well. The 400W proved to be too small as well, going for +1000W next time and 9 pots with plants of that size (extra week of veg helped too) proved to be too crowded as well. All and all not many things went well, if hardly any, for a first time grow but nevertheless they are all still here and I'm very proud of it. The yield may be small after all but so what. I kept them all alive and from what I hear not many people do so in their first grow.

Now the big question is, when to harvest? Most of the pistils are brown but I can't see any amber trichomes. At least not with the crappy handheld microscope I have. Not to mention I have to go so close with it to focus that it touches my buds and I hate it... :mad: Will they even get amber or not, being sativa and all, and if I harvest now or within a week will I lose anything? (haven't seen the buds grow at all for around 10 days now, being rootbound and all I guess) Here are some pictures to help http://i55.tinypic.com/14cb4a9.jpg
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