what happened at the meeting today?

Releaf, I think we come from two totally different perspectives.

You've given your life - money and personal info, agreed to background checks and whatever else from what you went through in order to apply to the state to get your dispensary. The privacy you've given up is not a big deal or you've grown to live with it.

I don't share my SSN with the hospital. The amazing thing is, after I refuse to give it to them, life goes on, they accept my insurance, and I am served like anyone who has given them everything they wanted. My last visit, they wanted to photocopy my drivers license?! no thanks. they were fine with that. I don't do this because I think the sky is falling, I do this because information is often mishandled. I've had my id stolen twice, so I have some reason for not putting info out there if I can avoid it. It seems the current registry just needs some staff and an 800 number. That's in line with the Constitution.

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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum

More nutty paranoid predictions. What you're predicting is not gonna happen, folks.... just like all the other apocalyptic proclamations that are spewed all over the internet every time regulations change.

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Nahhh We trust our govenment After all they have your best intrest at heart.Save our children and regulate the cat back in the bag send it all back underground and create criminals so LEO can justify there job as terorists.

I see it happening 1284 and 109 has done this already.I can buy top shelf off the street cheaper than at a center.

I know about 30 patients 5 signed all there rights away to work or own a MMC 2 opted out right from the start .The ones who opted out are the oldest (in there 60s)

MMCs better wake up and fight against all this unconstitutional crap or they will die a slow death

Meh. I'm just bitter. A lot of people on this board don't understand the most basic elements of how government works. They don't understand how state, local and Federal government share powers and functions. They seem to draw no distinction at all between the Constitution, Colorado law, statute and ordinance. The don't seem to know or respect any of their leaders. They don't understand how laws are made, how our legislature works, what kinds of redress citizens have. They do not know what to do when they disagree with their government. After 30 damned years of Law and Order, they are still absolutely clueless about their rights and the police. All of this ignorance translates into conspiratorial fantasies of persecution and general hostility toward any

....ahh helll this is rambling B.S. Obviously, my generalizations don't apply to all, most, or even many of the posters here.

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Originally Posted by copobo

Releaf, I think we come from two totally different perspectives.

You've given your life - money and personal info, agreed to background checks and whatever else from what you went through in order to apply to the state to get your dispensary. The privacy you've given up is not a big deal or you've grown to live with it.

I don't share my SSN with the hospital. The amazing thing is, after I refuse to give it to them, life goes on, they accept my insurance, and I am served like anyone who has given them everything they wanted. My last visit, they wanted to photocopy my drivers license?! no thanks. they were fine with that. I don't do this because I think the sky is falling, I do this because information is often mishandled. I've had my id stolen twice, so I have some reason for not putting info out there if I can avoid it. It seems the current registry just needs some staff and an 800 number. That's in line with the Constitution.

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But how do they stop people from abusing the system with some staff and an 800 number?

if it's a closed system, off network, it is as secure as it can be.

When staff takes a call, leo says that have patient name with patient number is it legit? The answer is yes or no.

I can't imagine more than one staff person would need to be on this at a time during off-hours.

But there are two fundamental questions: how to prevent people from changing caregivers/centers constantly and buying more meds or plants than they're allowed under the constitution.

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

But there are two fundamental questions: how to prevent people from changing caregivers/centers constantly and buying more meds or plants than they're allowed under the constitution.

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why does it matter? I thought counts weren't tied to centers, so no need for incentives or keeping patients. Let them shop where they want.

The price on the street is better than at dispensaries so why would someone go to a dispensary to buy too much?

The only thing this crap will accomplish is to push more sales underground.

And under the constitution, patients may use as much as they need. I guess if we install a system, if you need to purchase more than 2 oz's at a time you are screwed. We do keep hearing of people having to drive hours to get meds, and now with more local moratoriums, there is an even greater affirmative defense for this.

EDIT: The state should just be explicit and say counts aren't tied to patients and let the patient whoring (hording) end.

Counts are tied to centers, just not IPM's.

I'd argue that if you're looking to bargain shop, you'll be able to find something on par with street pricing with far greater variety and access to edibles, hash, etc.

Wouldn't this system have the opposite effect than you described? If you're approved to have more than 2 ounces then that is tracked and you're at less risk than the status quo, where you have a registry card that doesn't indicate increased plant counts. And once again, those with extended recommendations are a small, small percentage of patients in the state.

the underground market almost withered away by the end of last summer - now, it's back in full swing.

One of my patients called last night and asked if I could take on 2 friends who don't want to be on a database.

Unfortunately, I can't take them (but I am trying to sell them some spare lighting gear!).

anecdotal, yes, but I don't think this isn't going to be a big deal for a bunch of people, which seems to be what you are hoping for. I think going this route is going to make many people shop underground who would otherwise have shopped at an mmc.

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Originally Posted by copobo

before long, they will make it legal to check the DB to do spot home checks, and they'll check it fishing for busts. They'll use it to take your drivers license, health or auto insurance, or job away.

you are a damn fool if you think otherwise.

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100% agree with this.