Life in Prison for Growing Medical Marijuana? (protest tomorrow 8am Denver)

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

Stop acting like he was 'helping people'. He was a for-profit 'caregiver' who didn't play by the rules of A20. He was breaking the law, even under A20. I would be careful defending him, because he was illegal. I'm not 'glad' that he got busted, but when you blatantly ignore the law, of course there will be consequences. I'm not wishing a bust on anyone else, him or otherwise. For example, Al Capone was convicted of income tax evasion, not anything criminal. Don't you realize that unclesam saw that bartkowitz wasn't paying taxes on the revenue he bragged about making on 9news, and that's why he's where he's at?

When you ask me to 'look in the mirror', are you saying that I'm similar to bartkowitz? Are you suggesting I have firearms, or that I have a large scale grow within 1000 feet of a school? Are you suggesting that I have prior drug related criminal convictions? Why exactly do I need to 'look in the mirror'?

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You keep saying over and over again that he was illegal under Colorado law, bullshit. There is nothing in A20 that states 6 plants per patient max, it actually says you can have as many as you need. He had doctor recs from patients which gives him an affirmative defense, there is nothing in A20 that states caregivers or patients cannot grow within a 1000 feet from a school, and how in the hell do you know about his tax situation? You don't. He also didnt have firearms, I dont know where you're getting this from but if he did under Federal law he would have gotten 5 years just for that from being a convicted felon.

Furthermore, you seem to be upset that he was making money, so fucking what? Whats your problem with someone making money?

cologrower420-----> I find it ironic that someone as well spoken as yourself can be so clueless.

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Originally Posted by HarvestHouse

cologrower420-----> I find it ironic that someone as well spoken as yourself can be so clueless.

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utterly clueless. every now and then, there's a glimmer, but he usually smashes any hope with his next post.

I agree with both of you Harvest and copo:thumbsup:

i read this article about this man and its crazy. he was following the law and the DEA wasn't suppose to bother medical marijuana growers in the state, but they did anyway; on purpose i believe.


Medi Marijuana Grower Gets Plea Deal

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Originally Posted by copobo

utterly clueless. every now and then, there's a glimmer, but he usually smashes any hope with his next post.

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Bingo

Here's my take. I think the guy was an idiot to go on the news and brag. I saw part of the news story & my jaw dropped from him being so ballsy. As far as A20, we all know that doesn't mean crap at the Federal level. Anyone with a half-brain knows better than put all your eggs in one basket. 99 here, 99 there, 99 over there.... Not 300 or whatever he had all in one spot. Did I think the 60 yrs they were trying to throw at him was going to stick - hell no it wasn't going too. Do I think he's going to spend some time in prison - unfortunately I think the sad truth is he will. Do I think he's lucky to get 5 years - well lucky isn't the right word, but considering the sentence could of been easily 8-10 years, I think 5 is better than that. Do I think he'll serve all 5 years behind bars - doubt it, probably out in 2, with "probbee" for the remainder. Do I think that sucks for just growing some plants - yes. Do I think the Fed is going to f*ck with MMC - unfortunately I really think they are. Right now, I feel much safer being a small time CG, than a MMC. I really think the Feds are going to go after MMC grows as some MMCs think it's still ok to put all your eggs in the same basket. Feds are going to walk all over State, and trample on our State rights. Are they going to be as concerned about me & my couple of patients and couple of plants - highly doubt it, at least not for a long time when they can better spend that money & get a big bust. Things are going to get ugly. People - keep your head low.

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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan

Do I think he'll serve all 5 years behind bars - doubt it, probably out in 2, with "probbee" for the remainder.

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This is Federal, he will serve the entire 5 years.

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Originally Posted by ottistoys

I agree with both of you Harvest and copo:thumbsup:

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+1;)

Wow..this is one heated exchange. I'm new to this site and don't know about the politics and past history on this site between members who have been here way longer than I have been. All I'll say is that anytime someone is persecuted for anything that has to do with with the eventual furtherance of our common goal is reprehensible. Yes mistakes were made and I understand that. Shame on the Feds for pursuing there broken agenda and they're continuance in keeping their repressive policies in place !