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Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
Not an extreme example at all, plenty of innocent people in prison.
How do you think gun owners would react if the police started knocking on doors of registered gun owners asking if they could come in to make sure they didnt have to many guns? Think that would fly?
I completly see your point but, what if you have dogs or kids? At least at the first knock you have the chance to put them away.
Where I'm from police serve warrants early in the morning before the sun comes up. I don't know about Colorado, or the cities in, because I havn't been here long enough I guess.
I dont know... My whole reason on moving out here to CO was to get away from the illegal crap. I am compliant so I have absolutly nothing to hide and to avoid the scenario in my post at the end of page 1, I will certainly consider just letting them in. I myself would rather do jail time on some bullshit charges than to watch my dogs get shot. My dogs will defend their territory.
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
Absolutely not, but pot is unique. Guns aren't illegal at the federal level.
Its not unique, one is protected by the Federal Constitution the other is protected under the State Constitution. Any local or state law enforcement takes an oath to uphold both.
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Plus, the NRA is a little bigger than norml, so the 'complainers' would be much much louder than the small group of largescale growers who might be now illegal.
We are discussing caregivers, why do you keep throwing in 'large scale illegal growers'?
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Originally Posted by SprngsCaregiver
I completly see your point but, what if you have dogs or kids? At least at the first knock you have the chance to put them away.
Where I'm from police serve warrants early in the morning before the sun comes up. I don't know about Colorado, or the cities in, because I havn't been here long enough I guess.
I dont know... My whole reason on moving out here to CO was to get away from the illegal crap. I am compliant so I have absolutly nothing to hide and to avoid the scenario in my post at the end of page 1, I will certainly consider just letting them in. I myself would rather do jail time on some bullshit charges than to watch my dogs get shot. My dogs will defend their territory.
I hear ya, the dog scenario has ran through my mind quite a few times. I've already decided if they killed my dog they are going to have to take me down too. Let them explain to the public why they shot and killed an unarmed cancer patient and his dog.
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Its not unique, one is protected by the Federal Constitution the other is protected under the State Constitution. Any local or state law enforcement takes an oath to uphold both.
We are discussing caregivers, why do you keep throwing in 'large scale illegal growers'?
In our example, we are discussing a medical marijuana issue with a gun issue. In my mind, since pot is still illegal at the federal level where guns are legal at a federal level, then the outrage at the 'auditors checking gun owners' doesn't quite fit. I'm not sure of a different analogy. That's where I was going when I said the 'auditors checking on gun owners' would be a larger crowd than the 'remove the 5 patient cap' crowd. Do you disagree?
In my opinion, a legal caregiver is 5 patients or less, 36 plants. Give or take I guess. I don't think our example of 'cops checking plant counts' or 'dept. of revenue auditors checking paperwork' really applies to legal caregivers. I don't believe cops would bother busting a legal grow. Now, how that cop decides how that grow is legal or not is beside the point. I am simply saying cops will leave the small guys alone and concentrate on the bigger cases.
That might not be correct. If the cops wanted to bust your grow or arrest you or question you or whatever, they can. I think in reality, the 'cops checking plant counts' will be happening with large scale grows, which are illegal post 1284/109, not small compliant grows. But that's in general, specific cases could easily be different.
Do you see why I don't use caregiver when I am discussing large scale grows, anything more than 36 plants?
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
You said you saw the article and a map, and now it seems apparent that there never was a map.
Did you get your original info second hand? Why would you post that there was an article with a map if there was only an article?
I stand corrected on the article, but I still call bullshit on you saying they published a map of home grows. Good times.
I apologize AGAIN for being a chef and unable to download the article. Thanks for finding it! I have the actual paper(it was a promo tossed on my front porch) and in the free copy the article starts on page 7 and continues to page 8 and above the rest of the article is a map of Aurora with red dot for 30 documented grows, a blue dot for 27 undocumented grows, and a geen dot showing the grows pending. It says it was Dan Oates:mad:map for presentation to the Neighborhood Services Committee this month!
I again apologize that I was unable show it to you, but it is NOT bull and I was just trying to help. Maybe one of those dots is a cherised forum member. Sorry for trying to help.:weedpoke:
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I apologize AGAIN for being a chef and unable to download the article. Thanks for finding it! I have the actual paper(it was a promo tossed on my front porch) and in the free copy the article starts on page 7 and continues to page 8 and above the rest of the article is a map of Aurora with red dot for 30 documented grows, a blue dot for 27 undocumented grows, and a geen dot showing the grows pending. It says it was Dan Oates:mad:map for presentation to the Neighborhood Services Committee this month!
I again apologize that I was unable show it to you, but it is NOT bull and I was just trying to help. Maybe one of those dots is a cherised forum member. Sorry for trying to help.:weedpoke:
You are misunderstanding. You said there was a map of the home grows along with the story. That's the part I doubted, and that's the part of your post that is untrue. It appears the article contains a photo of a home grow, not a map of home grows.
No worries, and there is nothing for you to apologize for.
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I apologize AGAIN for being a chef and unable to download the article. Thanks for finding it! I have the actual paper(it was a promo tossed on my front porch) and in the free copy the article starts on page 7 and continues to page 8 and above the rest of the article is a map of Aurora with red dot for 30 documented grows, a blue dot for 27 undocumented grows, and a geen dot showing the grows pending. It says it was Dan Oates:mad:map for presentation to the Neighborhood Services Committee this month!
I again apologize that I was unable show it to you, but it is NOT bull and I was just trying to help. Maybe one of those dots is a cherised forum member. Sorry for trying to help.:weedpoke:
Do you have a digital camera? You could always take a picture of it and post the picture.
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Thank you SpringsGrower! I have know taken and loaded the picture, it is not very clear, but at least it confirms my honesty. Just wanted you folks to know that the article and map were out there.
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Thank you SpringsGrower! I have know taken and loaded the picture, it is not very clear, but at least it confirms my honesty. Just wanted you folks to know that the article and map were out there.
I think someone owes you an appology. :thumbsup:
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I think someone owes you an appology. :thumbsup:
yessir :thumbsup::thumbsup:
