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Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
My grow totals down to about $20-30/oz of AA-quality, that's for most indica and sativa strains (that includes electricity for the air pump and air circulation and timers as well.) I'd have to wonder what equipment you're using.
My personal time is where the majority of the costs are incurred. I look at it as a part-time job, not just a hobby. My regular full-time job pays me a hourly wage and I use that hourly wage to calculate my labor costs, since I could choose to work more at my full-time job instead. Fertilizer, electricity, water, equipment and real property overhead are just the start of costs incurred. But you're right a hobbist should only be spending approximately what you posted.
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan
My personal time is where the majority of the costs are incurred. I look at it as a part-time job, not just a hobby. My regular full-time job pays me a hourly wage and I use that hourly wage to calculate my labor costs, since I could choose to work more at my full-time job instead. Fertilizer, electricity, water, equipment and real property overhead are just the start of costs incurred. But you're right a hobbist should only be spending approximately what you posted.
Ah, but I'm not a hobbyist. Labor, etc included, I spend practically nil time on my systems. No automated stuff, just well-set systems that pretty much run themselves. The only times I need to pay attention are during my weekly res changes (some plants drink so slowly and eat so little that I go two weeks for those) where I check my airstones and then refill with nutes. Twenty minutes tops for 12 plants in varying stages.
But I do see what you mean by labor costs. Doing DWC means heavy lugging!
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
Sorry to be the one to tell ya, but the price of medicine is dropping and will continue to drop. The more legal it becomes the lower the price becomes. Collectives alone do not set the price of marijuana. Collectives, Growers, Patients & the government set the price. You can complain all you want about businessman type collectives but growers are also trying to make a buck for themselves. If you want good quality low cost medicine, grow it yourself. Growers, you want a better price for your hard work, open up your own collective. :rasta:
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan
My personal time is where the majority of the costs are incurred. I look at it as a part-time job, not just a hobby. My regular full-time job pays me a hourly wage and I use that hourly wage to calculate my labor costs, since I could choose to work more at my full-time job instead. Fertilizer, electricity, water, equipment and real property overhead are just the start of costs incurred. But you're right a hobbist should only be spending approximately what you posted.
yea cfl style i could see it but not using 1k's,indoors that is. say you go small,2 1k setups,2 4ft t5's,bulbs,hps,mh,hoods,most people don't know shit about electric so to do it proper they would have to call someone in.timers,pumps,stones,nutes,hangers,clamps,panda film,maylar,ducting,fans,carbon filters,light controller,room or tent,sealing the room,on and on.
all the talk about i grow in soil so i have no costs is misleading at best,go try buying the soil it takes to grow it's not cheap either,then you still have to add diffrent nutes to that it's not just throw some seeds in soil walk away and months later there ya go.ya have bone/blood meal,fish,worm castings,guano's the list goes on far from free.and if you are indoors like most have to be the whole i grow in soil so i have very lil cost can take a hike.just for the basics i listed above start up cost if you do it at home and don't have to go somewhere else would be around 5 to 6 k.thats just to start up.
to me soil is more work and alot more of a mess to deal with.anyone that says other wise is crazy in their minds.having to tote soil back and forth tracking shit in and out so on. then lets not forget labor which i have to say thai that not to just base it off of your wage at work. cause as you should know or anyone that has been in the world at allyou know any high risk job pay quite a bit more than alot of wages out there.not only do we have the labor part but it is a very high risk.feds still have it out for us and robbers too both are equal in that dept of risk.
b4 i was hurt on my job "sub contractor" i was bringing home anywhere from 1500 to 2k per wk. im used to making close to 8k per month. that was a low to mid risk type of job.i did'nt risk getting robbed or my door knocked down by feds.
besides all that tho hey khyberkitsune i'll drop all im doing and make you my caregiver for 20 an oz of top aa buds.when can we meet up?i need around 4 to 6 oz per wk cause i only cook with it tho.im sure with how cheap you can grow it tho you should be able to supply that lil bit no prob right?let me know...:jointsmile:
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
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Originally Posted by throatstick
around 5 to 6 k.thats just to start up.
to me soil is more work and alot more of a mess to deal with.anyone that says other wise is crazy in their minds.having to tote soil back and forth tracking shit in and out so on.
You can spend a lot more than $5-6k, too. I'd consider that a minimum.
My soil system is easier and less work, and less mess than any hydro. system I've ever seen. It also produces better quality and yields. Wow, better call my shrink. :(
Why do you "tote" soil anywhere? Once it's in place, leave it there. It only needs to be moved once and never again... Like a fine Port wine, it gets better with time... :)
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
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Originally Posted by Dorje113
You can spend a lot more than $5-6k, too. I'd consider that a minimum.
My soil system is easier and less work, and less mess than any hydro. system I've ever seen. It also produces better quality and yields. Wow, better call my shrink. :(
Why do you "tote" soil anywhere? Once it's in place, leave it there. It only needs to be moved once and never again... Like a fine Port wine, it gets better with time... :)
well when you add on or add rooms you would need more.+ i don't care to keep compost in my room.sun is a good thing:thumbsup::thumbsup:
i still don't see how you could say it's alot cleaner than hydro? dirt cleaner than water? how?
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since people want to start hating on me for no reason then go ahead and hate on this...so anyways
alil side project,flipped to 12/12 2 weeks after clone.2 weeks into 12/12 now.alittle training too..done with the extra plants i had cause the way i grow they get big so i did'nt have enough room to run these so i did this instead to mess around.start the mumbo jumbo talk kk?:stoned:
gunna be nothing but solid bud throughout.nice tight packed noding going on...
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
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Originally Posted by throatstick
since people want to start hating on me for no reason then go ahead and hate on this...so anyways
alil side project,flipped to 12/12 2 weeks after clone.2 weeks into 12/12 now.alittle training too..done with the extra plants i had cause the way i grow they get big so i did'nt have enough room to run these so i did this instead to mess around.start the mumbo jumbo talk kk?:stoned:
gunna be nothing but solid bud throughout.nice tight packed noding going on...
Beautiful.
:thumbsup:
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
I feel exactly the opposite. I will stay underground until weed is like tomatoes. One needs no fig leaf if one never leaves the basement. $250 per oz. for all my customers, regardless of quantity, or legality. I have "patients," but I'm ultimately out there on my own, and don't give a shit.
Dispensaries already lowballing growers
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Originally Posted by senorx12562
I feel exactly the opposite. I will stay underground until weed is like tomatoes. One needs no fig leaf if one never leaves the basement. $250 per oz. for all my customers, regardless of quantity, or legality. I have "patients," but I'm ultimately out there on my own, and don't give a shit.
as popeye said im not a doctor but i sure am loosing me patients....:jointsmile:
