Tacoma Medical Marijuana

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Originally Posted by killerweed420

Absolutely it would end up more expensive. Because government will require a whole host of new laws regulating, taxing and controlling the market, just like they do cigarettes. That will mean a lot of extra expenses for a legitimate business. If we get the new intiative passed, a big if, Prices will drop some for a temporary period until our legisalture gets there hands on drafting new regulations and taxes. If there was some way to completely remove any government intervention then I would agree, costs would come way down.

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I agree that the state should have minimal anything to due with cannabis. They can sell a license to grow for a nominal fee, and to maybe sales tax recreational cannabis. But, to run it like they do the government itself would only fuck it up!! :D

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Originally Posted by seattlegreens

Even better would be growers to start their own business.
They could easily get rich and with $100 an ounce prices.

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Not with a 15-plant limit, they won't.

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Originally Posted by DankDragon

"The folks up at Club 420 are interested in people. They are giving and empathetic. "W.A.M.M.U." gives them their highest marks for a compassionate club."

"For Washington to be a leader in the creation of MMj clubs, the model of Club420, should be used." Rico [director of W.A.M.M.U.]

Washington Association of Medical Marijuana Users.

website in production

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Thank you very much for the compliments.

But, sometimes, it's hard to not feel like we're still stumbling around in the dark. We have so many things we want to do... we've really hardly even started. ;)

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Originally Posted by Club420

Not with a 15-plant limit, they won't.

Thank you very much for the compliments.

But, sometimes, it's hard to not feel like we're still stumbling around in the dark. We have so many things we want to do... we've really hardly even started. ;)

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I personally endorse NEC420, for what it's worth.:thumbsup:

Can't wait too see NEC420 expand statewide. You guy's have ethics and principle, which others do not.:D They have greed and chance in mind.

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Originally Posted by killerweed420

Absolutely it would end up more expensive. Because government will require a whole host of new laws regulating, taxing and controlling the market, just like they do cigarettes. That will mean a lot of extra expenses for a legitimate business. If we get the new intiative passed, a big if, Prices will drop some for a temporary period until our legisalture gets there hands on drafting new regulations and taxes. If there was some way to completely remove any government intervention then I would agree, costs would come way down.

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Ok.. so if it became legal, just like beer, it would be more expensive.
And, if it became legal that would make private drug dealers whom are now not taking any risk and have a huge economy of scale, raise their prices.

Wow

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Originally Posted by Club420

Not with a 15-plant limit, they won't.

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1 - if it was legal there would be no plant limit
2 - most anybody supplying pounds are not following the law, obviously

I can agree nobody will get rich off growing 15 plants.
According to people here though, economy of scale and legalization would make things more expensive for your business.

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Originally Posted by seattlegreens

According to people here though, economy of scale and legalization would make things more expensive for your business.

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First of all, we aren't a for-profit business. We are a not-for-profit. I just want that to be made clear, for the record.

Second, I think you miss the point. We all agree that outright, unfettered legalization would be a GREAT thing. But. we aren't so naive as to think such a thing will ever come to pass. The free market and the law of supply and demand will not control prices. It will be tightly-controlled and highly-regulated and THAT will screw up any pipe dreams you might be having about living in a society where the damned government leaves us be!

As we've already seen in Cali. They're using zoning ordinances to shutdown legitimate dispensaries, and new taxing procedures to suck as much of the money up as they can. Thats why I'm against having government involved. They will tax the shit out of it. Pretty much every year or 2 they will keep increasing the tax. And hence force it back underground again.

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Originally Posted by Club420

First of all, we aren't a for-profit business. We are a not-for-profit. I just want that to be made clear, for the record.

Second, I think you miss the point. We all agree that outright, unfettered legalization would be a GREAT thing. But. we aren't so naive as to think such a thing will ever come to pass. The free market and the law of supply and demand will not control prices. It will be tightly-controlled and highly-regulated and THAT will screw up any pipe dreams you might be having about living in a society where the damned government leaves us be!

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He wants more government control and involvement. For some reason, , by what ive read and understood by Seattlegreens posts, he wishes for big pharm and government to control our MMJ.
Sounds awefully fishy to me. goes against the wishes of almost EVERYONE I met in life. I wonder if there is a reason or a motive behind this kind of mindset?
Why is the profit margin or the business of anyone else concern you Seattlegreens?
The 420 club is a club of patients helping patients. It cant be more simple than that....if there is a profit or a loss of monies, its no ones business but the people involved.
Bottom line is patients are being helped and THATS ALL THAT SHOULD MATTER!!!!

Hey Michael do you still have a menu posted? I can't find it.

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Originally Posted by Lemonhoko

He wants more government control and involvement. For some reason, , by what ive read and understood by Seattlegreens posts, he wishes for big pharm and government to control our MMJ.
Sounds awefully fishy to me. goes against the wishes of almost EVERYONE I met in life. I wonder if there is a reason or a motive behind this kind of mindset?
Why is the profit margin or the business of anyone else concern you Seattlegreens?
The 420 club is a club of patients helping patients. It cant be more simple than that....if there is a profit or a loss of monies, its no ones business but the people involved.
Bottom line is patients are being helped and THATS ALL THAT SHOULD MATTER!!!!

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1) - I want LESS government regulation than currently.
Prohibition by definition is your government granting you less freedom than something being legal. The government would be smaller without so many people in jail and so many cops, DEA, etc going into our private lives.
Do you feel safer buying from a drug dealer than from the liquor store?

2) I am sorry EVERYONE you have met wishes us to be less free to use or grow a plant. My motive is selfish in that I want cheaper weed. It's also selfish because I want the place I live to be a better place, with less government intervention.

3) Patients helping patients is much better than nobody being helped at all.
Maybe you could say there are shades of grey.
I'd list them like this (best being on top, best option being on bottom)
- total prohibition
- current state - schedule 1, not allowed at hospital, etc
- medical state (like opiates, or antidepressants)
- total legalization - like beer
if we can move the scale downwards and get it to at least a medical state, we would be doing a great thing for our economy and our freedom.