If we are an accident, then what is the point?
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Originally Posted by BathingApes
If life is indeed, a cosmic accident, what is the point to anything? If after death we cease to exist, why live?
Life is not a 'cosmic accident' this concept that life is chance is false. There's nothing accidental about evolution, quite the contrary.
Why live if we know we're going to die?
Quite a nihilistic question and attitude. The point is that there is no objective morality, that we create our own essence through the choices we make based on what we value and desire. We only live once, so i suggest you turn that nihilistic attitude upside down and start embracing existence while you can.
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Life is not a 'cosmic accident' this concept that life is chance is false. There's nothing accidental about evolution, quite the contrary.
Why live if we know we're going to die?
Quite a nihilistic question and attitude. The point is that there is no objective morality, that we create our own essence through the choices we make based on what we value and desire. We only live once, so i suggest you turn that nihilistic attitude upside down and start embracing existence while you can.
Forget the stigma of "nihilism" for a second, and actually think. I've not once said I actually believe that, I've only asked people to apply something they don't believe in and actually see what they come up with. As of yet, all I've got are personal recommendations and warnings against nihilistic mentality.
I'm fully aware that it is all speculative, and because of that, I live my life to the fullest.
The point is, let's just forget that we choose to do it this way, step out of yourself a second - and think, why does anything matter if we all die anyway? Of course people feel uneasy and annoyed when you mention something like this, because it goes against everything they know.
But if, it turns out there is no afterlife, what stops everything form being meaningless?
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
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Originally Posted by BathingApes
The point is, let's just forget that we choose to do it this way, step out of yourself a second - and think, why does anything matter if we all die anyway?
nothing does matter, everything in life is inherently empty. Significance is determined by the individual. This topic touches existentialism. Facing the absurdity of existence and finding meaning in it.
But from an evolutionary perspective, life does have meaning and that is to create more life. So if nothing at all remember to have sex.
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Originally Posted by BathingApes
But if, it turns out there is no afterlife, what stops everything form being meaningless?
You. Discover love and spread it around.
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
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Originally Posted by BathingApes
The point is, let's just forget that we choose to do it this way, step out of yourself a second - and think, why does anything matter if we all die anyway? Of course people feel uneasy and annoyed when you mention something like this, because it goes against everything they know.
But if, it turns out there is no afterlife, what stops everything form being meaningless?
Mate. You wont find the answer. There is either a point or there isn't. No one knows. So everyone who says there is a point and tells you what it is they are just giving their opinions.
What kind of point are you looking for?
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
Nothing wrong with wanting to know or finding out. Nice post.:)
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
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Originally Posted by BathingApes
Just a point, I guess.
A lot of people ask these questions and I don't deny that curiosity on this subject can drive someone to distraction. Religions... governments... media... parents... friends and everyone else will give us information that we use to build up what we know of the world. I answered a different question to the one you posed. I see people fighting and arguing over whose idea is the real one without concrete scientific proof and I just sit back and let them agree to disagree or rip each other to pieces. I don't mind. I have my weed and my mission.
I only asked what point you were looking for as your idea may well have as much weight as any other idea.
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
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Originally Posted by BathingApes
Forget the stigma of "nihilism" for a second, - why should I? You're attitude is the definition of nihilism whether you believe it or not.
and actually think. - One can't exist without thinking.
I've not once said I actually believe that, I've only asked people to apply something they don't believe in and actually see what they come up with. As of yet, all I've got are personal recommendations and warnings against nihilistic mentality. - You can't always get what you want
I'm fully aware that it is all speculative, and because of that, I live my life to the fullest. - and how do you do that?
The point is, let's just forget that we choose to do it this way, - Why is this 'the point'? Why should i forget that my essence is created through the choices i make?
step out of yourself a second - and think, - One can't step outside of oneself and view oneself objectively, we are self-conscious, subjective beings. I'm always thinking.
why does anything matter if we all die anyway? - Things matter to different people, that's a question that implies that nothing in the world matters because of death or specifically human death. Happiness matters, loads of things matter, from science, music, art, nationalities, culture, language. Through death comes birth and vice versa, the cycle continues and this is what matters.
Of course people feel uneasy and annoyed when you mention something like this, because it goes against everything they know.
If you're implying i feel uneasy or annoyed at this discussion, you're incorrect.
But if, it turns out there is no afterlife, what stops everything form being meaningless?
You are what stops everything from being meaningless, you alone, no promise of an afterlife.
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If we are an accident, then what is the point?
Assuming it is an accident, Rebgirl gave her answers in 2nd & 3rd posts! I Like!
This is like saying; Why eat if all you are going to do is excrete it in feces! One, you have to; and 2) You eat what you like so you enjoy it and it is not a waste of time! If you apply that to your life. All of the above! sex, hobbies, friends and if you do not enjoy any of that; Be a volunteer--you may need something in your life that is more self fulfilling from others!
If we are an accident, then what is the point?
Only two things i would like to point...
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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
One can't exist without thinking.
I dont think its always true... i would rather say one cant think without existing...
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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
One can't step outside of oneself and view oneself objectively, we are self-conscious, subjective beings. I'm always thinking.
Well... maybe. Our consciousness is not our "self", our "i", so while we are bounded to be a percieving concsiousness, we still can leave our egos, our "i"s, and percieve them from outside with our pure consciousness.
And those who accomplish this learns that the sense of self is only another illusion, empty and void.
