The Truth About Hip Hop, MUST READ

Speak out kajlin420! :rastasmoke:

Christianity is the biggest cult on the planet. Oh and yeah Jesus is big and all, but Christianity wouldn't be anywhere if it wasn't for their fable of Satan. If you sit and actually think about it.. Christianity wouldn't have survived 2,000 years without him. "So if I commit an evil act and nothing happens to me.. well shit I'll do whatever I want!" Oh and funny how every Christian is a hypocrite, and the followers at the Church of Satan rarely ever break any of their rules. Their rules are much more reasonable and down to earth compared to Christianity. Both are a joke though. It's sad to see that such an intelligent world is still as superstitious as it was two millenniums ago.

Oh and I think the hardcore Christians are probably the most ignorant people on the earth, side by side with racists. "If you believe in anything else other than Christianity, you're going to hell. Even though I commit sins all day, everyday, and you're a Buddhist monk that is more peaceful than any being on the planet.. you're still going to hell." Man someone needs to educate the two billion followers of that cult really soon before it makes society worse than it is today.

Edit: Yeah back on topic, real Hip-Hop is amazing music filled with creativity and art. The Roots are probably one of the best original hip-hop bands, along side with a lot of foreign and underground groups. All the fake pop-rap they play on the radio now is all bullshit. That superman shit of music and other shit.. what the fuck is that? Seriously? He's talking about whacking off on a girls back, getting her to turn over on the sheets, and then turn back over so she has a cape on herself like superman. And young kids are dancing by the millions to this. America doesn't cease to surprise me.

This bone thugs stuff scares the guy in the vid? Some skulls, some backwards letters? He'd have a heart attack if he ever looked through a metal album! Yet somehow, all my metalhead friends and I are very peaceful people.

Man what a load of BS..

That Aint no devil music,He's just a hater..lol

Listin to that fool preach that bs is devils music to my ears...


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please tell me that all you hip-hop / rap enthusiasts listen to living legends/ luckyiam / 3 melancholy gypsies / eligh / zion i & the grouch. etc etc

i know these are all west coast underground groups but they dont talk about smacking bitches and plasma tv's they talk about real shit that everyone can relate to

i love rap but wont listen to the radio

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I agree with you kaljin420, but lucifer was NOT the 'roman god of the SUN', that would be Sol, or in Greek culture Helios.

In latin lucifer merely means "light bringer" from the combination "luc-" meaning light or to shine, and the base "-fer" to carry or bring.

As for the guy talking shit, just open your mind.... What harm could it do? Rather than hate on everything but jazz, you could appreciate the hip hop artists who are influenced by your music or perhaps those who sample it in their songs.

Some of the best musical ears in the business belong to hip hop producers and arrangers.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

The trouble with this is that most of the real musicians are not appreciated in this country. The majority of young people do not know the first thing about the only true American art form - which is jazz. Some of our finest and most innovative American Jazz artists frequently aren't even covered by health insurance, while these rappers and hip-hop jerks are wearing a million dollars worth of gold chains around their fat necks and wrists. They can't play musical instruments, for the most part - unless you call scratching a phonograph record musicianship. The styles of baggy pants and loosely-tied sneakers are based on jail attire. Now, I don't blame a "devil", that's ridiculous (sorry, I meant "rediculous"). It's just bad taste, lack of proper upbringing and corporate greed.

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right on man !!

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

Fortunately, there are musicians who value their heritage, and are continuing to bring innovative, creative types of music to the world. Those are the people that should be the heroes of the young - not the "ganstas".

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"the blues had a baby and she called it Rock and Roll". Muddy Waters

for real, the blues and jazz are truley American and without them neither Rock and Roll nor hiphop would exist.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

"Dixieland" IS a form of early jazz. In fact, Louis Armstrong, considered to be the inventor of Jazz, played it.

The folk music of early blues, ragtime, country, etc., is definitely part of our cultural heritage, and fine music - but not considered an art form on the same level as jazz, which developed from these types of music. Rock and roll developed from folk music also, but most is not an art form -although certain progressive, "fusion" types definitely are due to heavy jazz influence.

Jazz musicians usually appreciate many forms of music. Some may even like rap and hip hop. This does not make it an art form, nor does it excuse the ignorance in this society of our valuable musical cultural heritage - which is not just jazz, but the roots of it as well.

I have more respect for an old-time clawhammer banjo picker, Zydeco accordionist, blues harmonica player or any number of other authentic folk musicians, than every "rap" or "hip-hop" artist in the industry put together.

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i couldn't have said it any better myself

once again, not all rappers are as mentioned, which is why i don't listen to the radio. 'apple bottom jeans and the boots with the fur' is not considered anywhere near rap in my book.

listen to the song

Eligh - The Lot

That is skill, he is a poet, lyricist, and produces his own beats. I agree Jazz is definite music, but its not poetry. You just can't claim hip-hop as a skill-less genre, you're just listening to the wrong groups. my :twocents:

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Originally Posted by jh80ww

Alright guys I watched this about an hour ago and can not get it out of my mine, this really opens your eyes, but it also has to do with what you believe/don't believe. This guy has shown me how de sensitized i really am to things going on all around me and has helped me open my eyes. WOW! Alright well heres the links I STRONGLY recomend watching the full video, but if you want some of straight go to it points go to the youtube links.

bone thugz n harmony
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Bone Thugs N Harmony

snoop dog
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Snoop Dog

jay-z
YouTube - The Truth Behind Hip Hop - Jay Z

full video
http://video.google.com/googleplayer...146032&q=TRUTH

now i'm sorry if i posted in the wrong section or anything, just thought more people would see it here :P

ps. Honestly before this video I felt like i had been disconnected from god, but after watching it I realize that it's not totally my fault that I was and didn't believe in him 100%, their are many other factors, but after watching it, it can change your views drastically I think, and I might have to reconsider smoking marijuana :thumbsup:

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dont know how snoop or jayz can change how you feel about hip hop in a positive way as they just have exploited it for financial gain.

look into Afrika Bambaataa, and KRS-One thats real hip hop