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ok, took ten drops of 'down' to stabilize at 5-6, from 7 in approx 2.5-3 gals, this will be more water than my system can hold, but its good to get a feel for what it takes at what volume.
since it has been hours, i checked the tapwater i put aside earlier.
looks like in about 10 hrs, it went up about 1/2-3/4 a point-ish.
thats just the plain water. hoping i wont need the calmag, but, u tell me.
this is hopefully not going to be as complicated as it may appear.
Rock.Steady,
You will be glad you got out of the dirt. You can keep you ph at a reg. level and know exactly ec-ppm, I like using large res. 20gal to 50gal. The Ph does'nt flux. as much.
I also like using the 2" basket with a rapid rooter plug. You can have massive root structure's and and don't have to mess with vem. and lova rock's.
With hydro- ( I like Aeroponic's, The root system's get nothing but nut's,water,oxygen), you can get more plant's closer, and maintenance the plant's.
But anyway Wel-come to hydro!!!. Later
Hatch, thanks, but, you're suggesting a setup that is on a grand scale compared to the space i have available. those resevoirs size suggestions are simply far too large for my use. but thanks for your support:thumbsup:
hey coach, ph update.
the hydroton bath did creep up to 7 again overnite, i tweeked and will check in a while.
does this stuff always make the ph creep? will it ever stabilize?
the small tub with water only did creep a lil overnight to about 6.5, so about a point in 18 hrs or so.
GO ROCK!!!!! this shits seems just as complicated as far as learning new shit as i am going through with the LEDs. congrats man, and good luck gettin that ph down...your good with the ladies, ;) so you should be fine
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
Thanks WT;)
hey coach-
i contacted Sunleaves.
the conversion factor for this pen is 0.5
not that i have a flippin clue what that means,,,,,yet:wtf::D
ok, lets get crackalackin:cool:
0.5....thank you....that's what I needed to know..
It will take several days and a BUTTLOAD of ph down to beat it into submission but eventually your hydroton will bow to the correct ph. You're getting the idea of why I hate hydroton and my other reason for disliking it is that it seems to encourage fert buildup in my plants and cause problems later but I seem to be the only one that happens to for some reason. On it's plus side.....it's exremely lightweight which is nice and it repels algae very well.
As for your tap water it sounds ok......try one other thing for me if you would. Take your water and add some nutes to it....say enough to take the ppm to five hundred (you're tap water starts at 240, correct?) Then adjust ph to 5.6 and leave overnight....check again tomorrow. Hopefully the ph buffers in your nutes will keep things at the ph you set it to......that's the entire point of what we are trying to accomplish here.......a stable ph.....and we are testing to see if your tap water will hold one. My well water would creep up above 7.....sometimes to 8 no matter HOW much ph down I added. This is what we want to determine with yours.
Bluelab
Here's an excellent article on ppms, conversions, ec.....all the stuff you need to know. In my nute schedule I work off a 0.7 conversion while you are working off a 0.5 so our numbers will not match but at the bottom of that page is a link to a chart that compares the two conversions so you can see the differences.
ok, well, it looks like i have some home work.:wtf::D
ok, i've been outta the loop for a couple days and a couple reasons, but, i'm baaaaaaack:)
1st-
a report on my tapwater w- grow nutes, MAINTAINED PH:thumbsup:
so, im gonna hope my tapwater is gonna b good 2 go.
next, the hydroton, ok, part of the delay, im sure, is me:wtf:
like a knucklehead, 2 days into the soaking, i realized there really was only a 2-3 cups of leftover Hton from my soaking vat. well of course, i proceeded to rinse it clean and added it to the Hton i was beating into PH submission.
of course, the PH gave me more trouble, well, thats ok, ill keep lowering it. i'll take the blame on that. at least i didnt do it to a plant and then ask, "how? why?" duh.:wtf:
it seemed like we were getting close to a stable PH before i added the untreated leftovers.
so, ill work with it some more.:cool:
and theres more, look who popped outta the verm/per bubbler???
thats right SNLxNH(fem). see below;)
and, i am almost done working the bugs outta my home-brew drip/bubbler combo.
i took Xcrispy's suggestion of a 3 gal inside a 5 gal bucket idea.
i then took in in my own weird direction, i didnt have those exact buckets handy.
i have several assorted soil pots of sizes from 6 qt - 3 gal.
and several various sized bins.
i am working on 2 sizes and would like some input.
i have avail some 6 qts that i can use as baskets with 1.5-2 gal as a recirc resevoir. do you think that basket would be too small? whats a smallest size you would not expect extra problems with?
i can use bigger, but my main concern is headroom in the veg bunker.
my max top to bottom is 31 inches, thats including everything, max headroom, period.
i have larger buckets, but again, my concern is headroom.
i would have to make substantial modifications to change it.:(
Does she have true leaves????? PS ....i sent you an e -mail.