How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
1st the reason ALL you dudes worry about going to jail is because your all talkin about doin unlawful shit
2nd all i hear here is about makin $$$$$ and not helping sick people
just remember what the fed is really worried about is REGULATION and getting THEIR end
you wanna open a co op and NOT go to jail???
make sure you got all your paperwork in order i.e. here in calif the law states that ALL counties must have a Med Marj county ID AS WELL as your Drs reccom. if you live in a county that does not have such a prog go to another and get one of theirs
abide by the law and grow only what you are authorized to. here in calif its 12 plants 6 in flower and 6 in veg
DONT have more med marj on hand that allowed by law again the "base" here in calif is 8oz if you have more than that after YOU ARE arrested the law says that you are entitled to a hearing to demonstrate and present argument to the court that what you DO have is what you NEED to rec benefit. Clinics are allowed 2.5 lbs.
DOCUMENT all the plants you have, that means if you are growing for some RECCOMENDED friends make sure you ID all your plants with their names and Drs name and have copies of all your paperwork on the premisis inclusive of your "caregiver" agreements.
RECORD whatever the DRIED net weight is and ducument where every stick goes.
whats tragic is when all the medical marijuana users get a break from the voters the black market guys try to find some way to abuse it
medical marijuana is NOT for the making of PROFIT but to ease the suffering of the sick and diseased
you break the law you go to jail
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
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Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust
1st the reason ALL you dudes worry about going to jail is because your all talkin about doin unlawful shit
2nd all i hear here is about makin $$$$$ and not helping sick people
just remember what the fed is really worried about is REGULATION and getting THEIR end
you wanna open a co op and NOT go to jail???
make sure you got all your paperwork in order i.e. here in calif the law states that ALL counties must have a Med Marj county ID AS WELL as your Drs reccom. if you live in a county that does not have such a prog go to another and get one of theirs
abide by the law and grow only what you are authorized to. here in calif its 12 plants 6 in flower and 6 in veg
DONT have more med marj on hand that allowed by law again the "base" here in calif is 8oz if you have more than that after YOU ARE arrested the law says that you are entitled to a hearing to demonstrate and present argument to the court that what you DO have is what you NEED to rec benefit. Clinics are allowed 2.5 lbs.
DOCUMENT all the plants you have, that means if you are growing for some RECCOMENDED friends make sure you ID all your plants with their names and Drs name and have copies of all your paperwork on the premisis inclusive of your "caregiver" agreements.
RECORD whatever the DRIED net weight is and ducument where every stick goes.
whats tragic is when all the medical marijuana users get a break from the voters the black market guys try to find some way to abuse it
medical marijuana is NOT for the making of PROFIT but to ease the suffering of the sick and diseased
you break the law you go to jail
I don't know if you have first hand exp or not, all your suggestions "sound" great, but in fact no matter how you cut it, you are opening yourself up to "Federal Prosecution" no matter how by the book you are. It does not matter, at a minimum you will be charged with possession, intent to distribute, and some other weird charge that amounts to pinning you with being behind an "operation" to distribute, the exact ver batum wording escapes me. Brass tax is that no matter how by the book you are, no matter how legit you are, the Feds can do multiple things to you. They can break into and enter your clinic, take anything and everything from the medicine to money in donation jars for other non-profit organization, i.e. (march of dimes, ect...), AND if that's not enough they may even pay a visit to your residence, break in, steal anything they want, arrest you and charge you. Or, they could just take all your money and medicine and not do anything to you personally. That really depends on specifically which county you may be in, even in federal court, you get a jury, and some are known to be harder to receive convictions for than others. (Imagine that, somewhere an overwhelming majority of citizens pass referendums, and the fed can't make them acknowledge federal laws that directly contradict what the citizens of the state voted in...hmmm?:wtf:
For instance in L.A,they recently just went into a clinic, took all the meds and money and left, no arrests? Why??? They do not want to go to trial and lose, it would set a president. So instead they just vandalize and steal in hopes of intimidating clinic owners.
In the current political climate, you are either dumb or ballsy if you want to pursue this, at least in the I.E.
L.A. has moratoriums, so you would really have to do your homework to find a county and city or un-incorporated area where they were already politically set up to allow for it, and even then,
The FEDS!
Read the link in my sig, Ronnie did run the only clinic in Corona, now he is up shit creek and fighting for his life. He was only charged with the bare minimum, no money laundering, tax evasion, weapons, nothing like that. Just possession, distribution, running the clinic, (again the 3rd charge has to do with running the clinic and employing people that were breaking federal law as well by just working there.)
Even with 2.5 lbs, in the clinic you will be doing federal time, look up their sentencing schedule, it is pretty cut and dry. If you are running a clinic, I don't realistically see how having only 2.5 lbs would work. You would have to be open from noon to 5 or spending 19 hours a day meeting with vendors and getting medicine. Not to mention, I really am not sure how you would cover costs with only 2.5 lbs, seriously, you meet with 1-3 vendors everyday to re-up, you have to pay security, rent, ins, wages, taxes, attorney fees, accountants, payroll, and oh yeah, the 2.5 lbs of medicine every day or every other day. Not very practical:wtf:
Delivery services seem like an idea, except the DEA can easily figure out whom is operating these, request delivery, and you know the rest. Would they? Who the hell knows, maybe not, maybe. It's a big gamble, probably wont' work out in the end either way unless lots of things change. You should be content with privately growing your own and feeling reasonably secure in the fact that it is a fat chance in hell that anything will happen if you are following state laws, just don't sell it. Good luck.:cool:
Oh yeah and Ziggy is absolutely right about talking about even talking about it at all, this summer the feds used another un named weed tracking forum to "pinpoint" their targets, although there was alot more behind why they picked who they did. But that was one thing they did, they also had 2 agents get legit medical recs and go into the clinics, bait people into saying shit, buy medicine to use as evidence, and release doctored video to feed into their propaganda machine. Don't think for a second they don't visit this site!:thumbsup:
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
whatever happened to the constitution :-(
I guess reefer madness is an exception to these fundamental bill of rights.. We need our MMJ man :-( and for those who don't it is unpleasant taking the other shitty pharmaceutical drugs! Least any side effects of weed are managable :-(
3 sad faces in one post, fucking DEA :(
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
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Originally Posted by kgb420
seems to me, a few of you guys are missing the point. the goal here should be providing safe access to medicine to patients, not making a quick buck!
*Just browsing through the thread*
Whats wrong with having a goal of making good money WHILE providing safe access to medicine to patients?
Im sure if he started this business hundreds maybe even thousands would be thanking him for delivering! Hell he might even save someones life!
Get money
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
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Originally Posted by Jay Matix
*Just browsing through the thread*
Whats wrong with having a goal of making good money WHILE providing safe access to medicine to patients?
Im sure if he started this business hundreds maybe even thousands would be thanking him for delivering! Hell he might even save someones life!
Get money
Everyone has mouths to feed. Everyone has a purpose in life too. Money isn't everything, but it sure helps.:cool: Anyone that would beg to differ please feel free to start giving away your money, I call "First Dibs!"!!;)
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
if your want to really do something , i suggest not a dispensary type of setting for the reason of the in your face to the Dea. The laws of Ca states of a card issue program for each county, even thou most don't get along with this. But hell, you have ss, dr lic, ect don't you? Ca has statewide medical marijuana identification card program that is honored in all counties of their state..thru your county health and safety department. But not all counties are with this , and they are fighing the laws that allows safe access .
a small coop is the way to go. especially if you have space to grow for some patients in your area. We have one in our area. Paitents whom grow together in unity saves time and energy on the big time scoring medicine and it depends upon what your doing, either inside or outside. The laws, if your have read them explains everything . What is allowed and what they won't allow. But our civil rights are invaded by the fact that the Federal won't accept this, to me is a contridiction to their own laws when they allow a federal stamp to some but not to all. you want to open a coop, go for it... not a dispensary for that will take you down , but a small coop, with a ca recomendation will also send you into prove that your a patent in the legal system. But if you have a card, it allows you to grow, per ther state of ca. even thou Prop 215 has been around, sb420 says it all. Your protected as long as you have that card and doing what is allowed holding that card. read the laws .... thats all i can say then you will know what is expected . i understand that many will disagree on the card program, but what the heck, it works. If they come to your door, they have been shown the card, you have the guidlines of product your allow to have per your dr recomendation, they must call the number on the card, once its checked they must leave. But do not let them into the house/. Let them check it first... it works. they must follow the laws of the state. But only grow what is allowed, no more.. reinbursment is also allowed pe sb420. like i said.. more coops need to open to care for our own safely. unity amoungst patient, not a dispensing retail outlet but only not for profit. So if i have to jump and get the card to safely grow i will. What is one more card? credit cards, social security cards, drivers licence, medical cards, they all have our information.. Cameras on every light, cell phones buged. Really, if they want us, they know where to find us....
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
If you're thinking of opening something because you think it would be neat to be able to legally have access to all the weed you want, then:
1) No matter how legal it is in your state it will still be illegal, and you will be prosecuted and/or persecuted.
2) You would achieve your goal more readily if you were to do like stinky, and be a caregiver (AKA weed grower), and work your way up to over 30 varieties.
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
Hey ppl so is anyone out there gonna answer the question?
the op asked HOW TO open a co- op etc in the state of california?
what are the steps?
?business liscence?
?seller's permit?
?attourny?
the op ask A simple question FOCUS plz:thumbsup:
How would I go about opening a "Co-Op"?
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Originally Posted by veggii
Hey ppl so is anyone out there gonna answer the question?
the op asked HOW TO open a co- op etc in the state of california?
what are the steps?
?business liscence?
?seller's permit?
?attourny?
the op ask A simple question FOCUS plz:thumbsup:
The question has been answered.
It is a catch 22, if you do everything "by the book" then you open yourself up to federal prosecution whenever the DEA wants to come get you.
You are better off staying underground, you are lots less likely to be prosecuted or persecuted, since the DEA is really lazy and just focused on low hanging fruit, and not people that are actual criminals in violation of their own state as well as federal laws. It's much easier to find someone who is openly operating in broad daylight publicly than it is a criminal that is staying off the radar.
You should probably read the entire thread.
And if it is a simple question as you put it, then why don't you fucking answer it for all of us after you learn how to spell or use a spell check at the very least.:wtf:
