I'll get to answering you soon, life's caught up to me :P
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I'll get to answering you soon, life's caught up to me :P
Hardcore Newbie, you sure love to argue with Christians, don't you? :) Haha, I love it.
I love reading your posts too Hardcore Newbie.
It isn't just semantics either :thumbsup:
I came in to do lurking, I still don't have time to post anything in depth, but I find that I have groupies LOL. Hopefully soon, I miss this board.
The bible was written in context from 2000 yrs ago, not everything will add up.
IMO it is religion that causes conflict and all the problems muslims have w/ christians, vise versa, jews and christians. I dont mean being part of a religion is a bad thing at all, but it is when people express their feeling about what they believe that conflicts start. 2 people expressing and believing 100% in 2 different gods or 2 different ideas of one god or figure ie - God, Yawe(however they spell it), Allah) or what one figure means ie - Jesus a savior or a prophet??? U follow??
If everyone would just preach to the people who already feel the same way, instead of trying to argue with people who share diff ideas there wouldnt be half the religious messes that happen on this world
Personally i think WW3 will start when the Jews in Jerusalem tell the Muslims to pack up and get the fuk back to Mecca, and take the dome of rok w/ em. When the golden dome of rok in jerusalem is toppled by the Jews, it will be the beggining of the end days.
I kno this is kinda off topic of roundablouts in the bible, but oh well.
I personally believe in both creation and evolution.:D For everyone who is going to argue with that, please dont, i dont care what u have to say.
Krogith, I have a hard time with saying Adam died from Sin. Adam followed Eve, his wife, WIFE, out of the Garden. How could a God ask a man to simply let his wife whom he loves walk away from him forever? I would do the same every time because it's not a fair choice. At worst, it is a matter of weakness, and really, it is devotion to the one he loved. But for God to condemn us all to lives of misery out of one couple's actions seems a bit, rash? Stupid? Selfish? Childish? Oh, I can't find a word, help me out here.
Also, if God is so perfect, why did he have to start over in the first place? Seems to me he can't get it right. Angels didn't like what he was doin', bam, war. And then brushed aside to a life of servitude and conflict while Man inherited the Earth right before them. Sure doesn't seem fair to say, hey, you fucked up, back of the line, but oh hey, you still gotta love me while you watch an inferior race take your place in my master experiment, I mean plan. And now, humans can't get it together evidently, so when are we gonna be wiped away for God to start over? I hope it's soon because boy, I cannot stand this awful, awful world.
So really, it seems God can't get his act together and figure out something that works, not to mention the fact he makes the same mistakes. Two times he's tried to control a group by telling them to follow him blindly, and both times it's failed. How many more times is going to take for him to figure out life in this universe will not just blindly accept something, and you know why, because it grinds against active consciousness and higher intellect. And you can say, God doesn't have to explain himself to us, we're just mere mortals and he's omnipotent and all-powerful, but really it's stubborn. And yet, twice it's failed, and yet he doesn't change his actions. So either, this is all just an experiment or game, or your God is stubborn and flawed. Which would confirm the fact that man is indeed created in God's image....;)
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Again, after showing you that you're using two definitions for the idea of perfect, you state that you're not doing so, and proceed to use two definitionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Krogith
Did adam adhere to God's word? No, so by your second definition he can not be perfect.