why the future doesn't need us, by bill joy

check out www.austintollparty.com for the austin toll road scam currently being sold to us...

it's a giant privatized/fascist/socialist scam. it's tyrannical and unnecessary, and most people are against it. the politicians laugh at us, they know we can't vote them out, they own the voting machines.

and then do a google search for 'mileage tax' or for similar things...

this has been given federal funding around the country to test, and most cars for at least a decade get the plugin for the mileage tax and have data recorders.

i posted an article from NH a while ago about license plate reading cameras that could check to see if you had paid all your taxes. i've read mainstream articles from england too where this is going on. this is one purpose of the cameras going up all around the country. you'll even find them in small middle of nowhere towns in texas.

it's all about your freedom.

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Originally Posted by moomoo

thanks for replying. i have 2 young grandchildren and ,of course im against that type of thing. i smoke pot only. i did lsd in the 60s and liked it very much. i did try herion once and i hated it. i passed out and then threw up,i dont like booze either. i think pot is the best! i was just surprised at some of your comments thats all-not necessarily about drugs but other things-like Choice- and you seem to like bush-who would put us in jail in a NY minute if he could catch all of us pot smokers,stuff like that. i really dont mean to critsize you but i guess i wasi can you explain Libertarianism?(if you feel like it,of course.)i hear about it a lot and in fact in my state i heard that 20,000 libertarians are or have moved here(NH) do you know anything about that.? sorry for calling you a cop!!

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Howdy moomoo,

I think it's great-that you have 2 grandchildren-in fact..I'm a little jealous,my daughter turns 25 next month,and she still hasn't had any children yet..maybe some day !

Yup..I voted for Bush,because I want a president that won't make excuses for terrorists and the countries that support and export them,like Kerry would have done. I don't like the fact that Bush would lock me up in a new york minute,for smoking weed..but at least he understands that American ideals and principals,must survive-in order for the world to survive.

As for libertarianism,that's not me you should ask to explain,Libertarian Toker,is the one you should ask.

I'm the one you called a cop-not Libertarian Toker.

I was raised in a very conservative household of conservative Christians,I can't help but to be steeped in conservatism and traditional,conservative Christian values. My mind-set is more akin to a conservative soldier,with Christian values ..I am a Navy vet. However-in '71,I grew out my flat-top hair-cut and started parting my hair down the middle,and I joined the hippy culture,in rebellion to my dad's ultra-conservatism,and started smoking weed and experimenting with drugs. I ain't looked back since then and have enjoyed smoking weed ever since. Once I got married and we had a child,my conservative family values came back and served me well-in terms of being a reponsible father and husband. I have good intentions,they just come out a bit heavy-handed and I apologize for that.

Have a good one...Torog :D

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i posted an article from NH a while ago about license plate reading cameras that could check to see if you had paid all your taxes. i've read mainstream articles from england too where this is going on

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This is going on quite alot by me, i've seen it several times. The police call it A.N.R.P - automatic number plate recognision. the police hav a moblie camera unit thing they flash u with, if you got outstanding fines, no tax etc they pull you down the road.



Peace

i also agree with you on that, too the cia gave lsd to people(including their own) in -i think-the 50s. thats a known fact. the history channel had a doc on it. in the 60s the best lsd around, was called Owlsey acid. it was rumored that Owlsley was cia. someone took a pic of him and he didnt look to hip (circa-1967) times are really scary and im afraid that bush and company is the "bugyman"

i know, the same government that plants fake newsletters from troops all around the country, the same government that prescribes hallucinogens and speed to kids but will put you in jail for decades for growing a plant...a government that perpetuates an endless drug war that eviscerates the bill of rights and contistutiton...that treats protesters like 'terrorists'...these aren't the actions of a benevolent government upholding the bill of rights and constitution, it sounds like a mass of elite (many of whom share close bloodlines) consolidating wealth and power into their hands while they maniuplate the economy with a fiat currency. sounds like classical tyranny.

it would take at least 100 pages, single spaced to just scratch the surface of the level of government corruption we have, as we liberate the world.

and somehow everything is alright.

holy shit i had ni idea! i work w/ special needs and we do a LOT of driving. that would really suck if it took over, especially with the gas prices the way they are now. i get a lot of mail from progressive sites and this is the 1st ive heard. any thing to nmake life a little more stressful, GOD!!

do you mean tickets and/or outstanding warrents ,or taxes.? so much for LIVE FREE OR DIE

they've come out and said publicly here in austin that for most people, the annual tax will be about $1500, and it'll either be debited from your account on a yearly or semi-yearly basis automatically through your "EZ tag" or mailed to you.

chicago just upped the amount for the tolls if you don't take the transponder. this is to force people onto the system. it's the reason there aren't sales in grocery stores anymore unless you get the card. people are practically forced to get the card and be trained to swipe it. this is so homeland security and fema (when martial law is declared) can control and tax people individually based on health factors and a range of other things...total micromanaging of peoples' lives,

to keep us safe from terrorism? how does all of this tyranny keep me safe from terrorism?

katherine albrecht found notes from Walmart meetings where they talk about RFID being sold to the public as inevitable and to just accept it, there's no stopping it...she went through legal hell even though they were on a public website available to billions. i'll have to find the link for that...but it's probably at www.nocards.org and www.spychips.com

it's the reason you have a grocery card and RFID is going into all products. a total electronic control grid is being put in place, and it will be solidified with RFID, the national ID card, and the national sales tax. you will officially be a technological serf.

everything you buy will be tracked back to you through "readers" that can be set up all around a city. this makes what Anne Frank's family did impossible. this makes it impossible to hide, even if you're hiding from your own government that wants to ship you to a camp so they can kill you.

even if our government is angelic and wonderful, why on earth would we put these systems in place where a suave dictator wanna-be gets into office and uses it against us? is that really smart? do we want to go down this road? does history matter?

just think of it like you're paying for your well deserved freedom, it's the least you can do, you aren't a terrorist, right? this is freedom. the whole world needs this freedom.

Man what a scary picture but you are right. i havent seen any sign of that stuff, other than those grocery card things and not all of the big grocery stores here have them. i dont think this is happening in mass. yet either-any one else from new england area out there that has heard of this? i guess we are going into orwellian times and [probably our govtment isnt so great. i feel for all the young soldiers fighting over there-for what-and the ones that do make it back-oh, viet-nam doesnt seem so long ago-on the ligher side- wasnt paul m awesome at the stupid eh super bowl? hes DEFINATLY one of the good guys of the world

what can we do about this we all have computers-maybe if we all banded togther- any ideas, anyone? i still dont get the tax mile thing. i really have to ask people arond here if they have heard of that-slipped my mind today. what a fucked up world we live untryI wish canada wasnt so dam cold!!