Quitting pot for her: UPDATE

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Use of Immanuel Kants oft misunderstood and contentious universalizability. Your spelling is incorrect.
How does that relate ?
Morals are not the question here.

Methinks you just enjoy talking cobblers !

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I know my fair share on Deontological Ethics. Tomato, tomato

universalisability - universalisability from FOLDOC

Universalizability - Universalizability - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Z, is usually associated with Americanized spelling, i believe. You assume for some reason that I can only view things from my own perspective, while I can't see inside of yours and only through mine, i can understand others, even though I may not agree. Understanding your point of view and agreeing with you are two different things. My point is that i won't quit for anyone besides me, I am that I am, no one can forcefully change me, that goes against my human rights and liberty. They can attempt to persuade me, however the decision is ultimately mine.

Just because i believe this one thing doesn't necessarily mean i agree with all it's universal traits. If you catch my drift.

Anyway, since you like Kant, i'll leave you with his famous words:

I should act, so that i may will my maxim to be a universal law.

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

Not that I am saying you are lying, i am simply saying that this particular scenario is so unusual, at least for me to comprehend. I've never heard of it before and i probably never shall again.

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You as much as admit the concept is alien to you , to be able to understand we must also be able to place ourselves in the position that you already said you have difficulty comprehending.

PS I do agree with you on the idea of changing for others but only to a degree. if the change is a positive one then it may well be worth the sacrifice.
Even where ganja is concerned, I'm sure we all know of at least one person who would maybe be better off not toking.

The concept is new, therefore i needed time to comprehend it, your quote was from the past, i have since understood and moved on. I did put myself in his situation, empathy, i believe. I assesed the situation and decided a route of action that differed his and favoured mine. I in no way criticize his actions, I just continue to make mine and mine alone. I listen to advice and ponder what best suits my preference utilitarian aswell as other values. If someone needs to change, then they must realize it for themselves before it can truly occur. Forced change is submission of will and of freedom. I believe this a situation that has no right or wrong answer, one person is no more intelligent then another for deciding to quit cannabis for someone or not. It is a situation that can only be decided if you are actually in the circumstances, when they immediately effect you, then and only then can you decide what to do and which is the better decision for you.

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Originally Posted by Nog

You say it's pathetic to choose smoking over a girl? Oh really.... I think it is pathetic to be with someone who can't accept you for who you are and try to mold you into their ideal mate. If some girl made me choose, i'd say nice knowing you, bye. That's just me though.

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I bet you wear Che t-shirts too! You rebel, you!

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

. If someone needs to change, then they must realize it for themselves before it can truly occur. .

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On this we agree.

Progress

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

Progress

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Elaborate please .

Progression of shared ideas and community cohesion.

whats up had to drop in.

well im 22 when i was 16 i was with this girl for almost 3 years. she always wanted me to quit. thats when i discovered that i actually love green and not her. i actually did quit for a couple of months. it sucked.

too much emotion=all bad. turn it down a notch. go slow buddy less is more.

i will always have an ace up my sleeve. you cant phaze my blaze. while one girl might leave me herb will always love and enhance my soul. psychotropic freedom baby feel the colors!




DONNY:stoned:

I really don't understand how anybody can be happy in a relationship where they need to ask their partner what they are allowed to do. If I wanted someone to tell me what to do I'd move back home with my mom.

My dad is the same way as you, probably why he's on his 3rd marriage, because he always tries to please his partner rather than stand up for what he likes himself, and in the end it never works out. Maybe you should think about that for a little while, because he is now an old man and after 2 divorces, doesn't have a lot of money.

It's really sad, and is exactly why I will never give up something I like for anybody else.