'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
Howdy delusion,
This ain't about my intolerance or fear,it's God who said that "man should not lay with man,as he would his wife.."..I have no fear of homosexuals,but I do have fear of God's Wrath in regards to this issue..for me and other Christians who oppose the militant gay agenda's,it's a matter of simple instruction from God..I believe in basic human rights for gays just as I do for any other sinner.
Accusing me or any other Christian,of intolerance and fear-ignores our religious beliefs and turns it into a secular issue,as well as demonize Christians and foster intolerance and fear towards Christians.
As for muslims,who kill and murder,homosexuals everyday,why don't y'all ever criticise them and call for UN resolutions against them for grievous human rights offenses ?
As for understanding the mind of God,that ain't my responsibilty,my responsibility is to study the Word of God and Jesus and do what they expect me to do.
Have a good one ...
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
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Originally Posted by Torog
Accusing me or any other Christian,of intolerance and fear-ignores our religious beliefs and turns it into a secular issue,as well as demonize Christians and foster intolerance and fear towards Christians.
intolerance is at the core of most all religious dogma. this elitist attitude that your special little book hold the ultimate truth and that all who don't hold those same opinions are doomed and somehow less important. of course; lip service is paid to the human rights of others, but when push comes to shove that one little clique is superior to the rest of humanity.
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As for muslims,who kill and murder,homosexuals everyday,why don't y'all ever criticize them ....
oh, but i do. remember me? i'm the church burner here....and the mosque burner and the synagogue burner and the temple burner etc etc etc. whatever it takes to remind the faithful that they are merely worshiping the false idol of the words of man. at its best, these perennial best sellers can only be a man's shoddy interpretation of the will of the infinite and, as such, are merely a reflection of man's fear of the unknown.
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'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
I still don't understand why it was funded with tax payers money? Anyway, here is my little 2 cents! I believe everyone has their right to express themselves. This is really no different than when there were people protesting gays at the soldiers funerals. People need to get over it and move on with making sure their own life is heading in the right direction. I mean does it really make you think differently about Jesus after seeing those images? I am a firm believer in the Father, and Jesus Christ, but I don't associate myself with any religion to further enlighten my spirituality. There is no image in the world that could make me feel differently about Jesus. I think the best thing that Christians could have done would have been to not even give them the publicity. Let them have their parade. If you feel the need to give them the gospel, give it to them if they reject it then just go on about your day. People need to stop letting religious images get them upset.
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
To all the people who take issue with gays mocking Jesus, would you have the same reaction to Christians mocking gays in a similar fashion? If the answer is yes, fine. However, I bet many, if not most, of the Christians taking issue with gays mocking Jesus have no problem with all of the homophobia that pervades this country. Frankly, that's just ridiculous.
It really is a joke the way bible thumpers can complain about gays mocking Jesus, calling it an attack on Christianity, while having absolutely no problem with all the homophobia that pervades this country. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Gays wouldn't give a shit about attacking Christianity if it weren't for Christians going out of their way to display their hatred for homosexuality every chance they get. The only reason homosexuals have an issue with Christians is because of the shitty treatment they receive with Christians due to a random fucking book saying homosexuals will be eternally damned. If it weren't for this idiocy gays would have no problem with Christians.
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Originally Posted by Torog
This ain't about my intolerance or fear,it's God who said that "man should not lay with man,as he would his wife.."..I have no fear of homosexuals,but I do have fear of God's Wrath in regards to this issue..for me and other Christians who oppose the militant gay agenda's,it's a matter of simple instruction from God..
Ah, well I can certainly agree with that logic. In fact, our beliefs actually aren't all that dissimilar. You see, in my religion we're taught that each and every black person will suffer eternal damnation. It's not about intolerance or fear, mind you, because it says clearly in our texts that it was our god who said that "man with skin like chocolate will burn forever in a lake of fire." I'm glad we're on the same wavelength with that.
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Accusing me or any other Christian,of intolerance and fear-ignores our religious beliefs and turns it into a secular issue,as well as demonize Christians and foster intolerance and fear towards Christians.
Let me reiterate: it is not "intolerance and fear" to criticize a religion that advocates hatred of a group of people whose only crime is doing something you don't approve of in the privacy of their own home. According to your line of thinking, you can justify any hateful belief you want to by simply saying "god said so." Are you really so blind that you can't see how ridiculous that is? It's laughable how stupid it is to complain about intolerance and fear toward Christians being fostered when one of the basic rules of Christianity can be boiled down to "It doesn't matter how altruistically you live your life, or how many people you help, or if you're Gandhi himself; if you don't believe this Jesus guy was the son of god yada yada yada, you're going to be damned for the rest of eternity."
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As for understanding the mind of God,that ain't my responsibilty,my responsibility is to study the Word of God and Jesus and do what they expect me to do.
Have a good one ...
This is the problem. As long as there are so many people that blindly adhere to one random fucking book over another, I really fear for the wellbeing of this world we live in. I mean, think about what you're saying with the above quote. You're basically saying that your responsibility is not to understand why the bible tells you to think and behave in certain ways, but instead to simply follow what the book says. Why do you need a supposedly divine book to tell you what is right? For that matter, wouldn't it make sense to actually try and analyze the validity each thing the book teaches, just in case (gasp) it's all bullshit? Your responsibility should be to do what's right according to logic and reason and common sense, but I guess that's too much to ask when religious people proudly claim to use none of these three things when deciding on what to believe. The only thing more ridiculous than you and your fellow Christians thinking this way is expecting others to accept it as legitimate justification for your intolerance and hate-mongering.
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
By the way, just in case it wasn't completely clear, I was being sarcastic when I was talking about my religion hating black people.
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
Howdy KevinFinnerty,
You can call it intolerance and fear and hate,but that doesn't make it so..Christians are to love the sinner and hate the sin..so ya see-it's more about love than hate and fear and intolerance.
When militant homosexuals and their supporters,cross the line and try to coerce tolerance and even go so far as to 'educate' 5 year old children about homosexuality and auto-eroticism and mutual masturbation,then you will see more anger coming from Christians,than compassion. It's also about usurping parental authority and promoting religious discrimination and intolerance.
The best thing for Christians to do,is to withdraw their children from public schools that have espouse a militant gay agenda,because the quickest way to change a liberal educator's mind,is to make em lose federal funds for each student enrolled.
Just think of the panic that would ensue in a liberal educator,if Christians staged a nation-wide walk-out for a week-they would lose millions of dollars of our money,that they think is theirs to do with as they please.:thumbsup:
Have a good one ...
PS: while yer thinkin about yer reply,have some cookies and milk..:thumbsup:
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
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Originally Posted by Torog
You can call it intolerance and fear and hate,but that doesn't make it so..Christians are to love the sinner and hate the sin..so ya see-it's more about love than hate and fear and intolerance.
And in Kevin's case where his religion says it's a sin to be Black? Instead of being intolerant of people, you're just intolerant of their actions, actions that harm no one. it's almost the same as the government that demonizes pot smoking.
We know we're not hurting anyone, yet the government is completely bent on pushing it's intolerant agenda. Maybe they don't hate pot smokers and they just hate the act of pot smoking, that makes their view better, right? It's all about love, they just want us to stop smoking pot because they care about us, including taking our money and putting us in jail.
If the government told you that arresting pot smokers was done out of love, would you accept their stance?
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
Man this issue will never be resolved. I have these same debates with so, so many of the so called Christian religion. Most Christians feel like they're the only ones who are going to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I don't know about you, but to me that just sounds strange. I personally don't believe that religion is going to get you any where near the Kingdom of Heaven. Christians, and many other religions have seem to got off track somewhere. Instead of following in the teachings of Christ who did lead by example, and excepted more of the cast outs of society. Christ excepted everyone regardless of what sin they were committing at the time. It is not up to anyone who walks this earth to pass judgment on anyone, that is the Fathers job, and the Fathers alone.
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
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Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy KevinFinnerty,
You can call it intolerance and fear and hate,but that doesn't make it so..Christians are to love the sinner and hate the sin..so ya see-it's more about love than hate and fear and intolerance.
So what does make it so? Is it only intolerance and fear if it's something that you disagree with? I know the 11th commandment was "thou shalt not actually respond to any point brought up in a debate about Christianity" but please, indulge me and respond to what I wrote earlier:
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You see, in my religion we're taught that each and every black person will suffer eternal damnation. It's not about intolerance or fear, mind you, because it says clearly in our texts that it was our god who said that "man with skin like chocolate will burn forever in a lake of fire." I'm glad we're on the same wavelength with that.
Question: How is this different from you saying that your feelings towards homosexuality are not intolerance and fear because it's written in the bible? Answer: it's not, but you and people like you are too fucking stupid to realize it. Liberals should fear not, though, because society as a whole is trending away from thinking like you do. Centuries ago a group of people could be convinced to do just about anything, no matter how unspeakable, so long as their leader "informed" them that the request had come from god, but we've developed enough sense as a society that this is not the case as much anymore. Hell, just a few decades ago, mostly in parts of this country that roughly correlate with today's "Bible Belt," black people were afforded much the same sub-human treatment that homosexuals are given nowadays from the Christian right. However, the country eventually realized the errors of its ways, as it eventually (hopefully) will regarding homosexuality.
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When militant homosexuals and their supporters,cross the line and try to coerce tolerance and even go so far as to 'educate' 5 year old children about homosexuality and auto-eroticism and mutual masturbation,then you will see more anger coming from Christians,than compassion. It's also about usurping parental authority and promoting religious discrimination and intolerance.
This trick must be in the "How to justify your baseless hatred of an innocent group of people" hand book that all you Christian conservatives seem to have. The trick starts by saying something along the lines of "I don't care what homosexuals do on their own , but if they come after me and my kids it's open season on faggots and my shotgun's fully loaded." The next part of the trick is to openly and proudly discriminate against gays as much as possible through legislation and spoken word until they finally ask to stop being trampled on. Once they ask for the abuse to stop you claim that homosexuals are being "militant" when the only thing they're asking for is to have same rights that heterosexual couples get and to not be physically or verbally abused for their sexual orientation. Now you can claim that you're not actually displaying intolerance and fear, you're just defending yourself. It's a bullshit tactic that Christians just love to use nowadays as if the rest of us are too stupid to see through it. Guess what, we're not.
As far as your assertion that anger from Christians toward homosexuals is due to them educating 5 year olds about auto-eroticism and mutual masturbation, that's just asinine. Do you have any credible (and I emphasize credible) evidence that homosexual couples are more likely to do this than heterosexual couples? Now gays are obviously likely to have earlier discussions with their kids about homosexuality in the context of the kid asking "why don't I have both a mother and a father?", but that's really no different from parents responding to a kid asking "where do babies come from?", which, unless I'm mistaken, is a question that many Christians parents answer honestly to some extent for their kids.
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The best thing for Christians to do,is to withdraw their children from public schools that have espouse a militant gay agenda,because the quickest way to change a liberal educator's mind,is to make em lose federal funds for each student enrolled.
Just think of the panic that would ensue in a liberal educator,if Christians staged a nation-wide walk-out for a week-they would lose millions of dollars of our money,that they think is theirs to do with as they please.:thumbsup:
Have a good one ...
Let me get this straight, you would go up to your kid and say "Listen, I know learning is important and all, but you're going to have to put your education on hold for a week so we can teach those faggots a lesson." Hilarious. Obviously education is a lower priority than faggot-hating for you and your Christian conservative brethren. I don't know whether or not you have kids, but if you do I shudder to think what their childhood was like with you as their father if statements like this one are any indication of your parenting skill.
Actually, it's interesting, this is basically a rhetorical question but I have a feeling you might try to deny the correct answer: What correlates more with one's level of education, Christianity or atheism/agnosticism? I'll give you a hint, it ain't Christianity.:thumbsup:
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PS: while yer thinkin about yer reply,have some cookies and milk..:thumbsup:
So you take exception to the "democratic value" of black people sitting in bathtubs full of milk? I guess I must have missed that day of Sunday school. I know you Christian conservatives are an irrational bunch capable of hating just about anyone or anything for no apparent reason and doing so with a clear conscience, but that's just ridiculous.
'Gays' mock Jesus with Last Supper take-off
