Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
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Originally Posted by Nation_1ne
What the hell? I never justified Dr. Phils actions. N' I'm sorry but no, rape victims have more sense and self control than a bum who is an alcholic and living rough on the street.
All I said was Bum Fights is morally wrong, regardless if you like Dr. Phil or not. You tell me how that says I believe Dr. Phils actions are justified?
tell me where i ever said you said they were justified?
both are exploitation... i dunno about you, but i know i'd rather be an exploited drunk bum on a street given a few bucks and a bottle to do something stupid, then be on national tv while dr. phil made millions off my rape story. maybe that's just me tho...
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
tell me where i ever said you said they were justified?
You called me a hypoctire for crying out loud. If that isn't what you were referring to then tell me, what do you mean?
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
both are exploitation... i dunno about you, but i know i'd rather be an exploited drunk bum on a street given a few bucks and a bottle to do something stupid, then be on national tv while dr. phil made millions off my rape story. maybe that's just me tho...
Well I think you're rather delusional then. I don't see how having "Bum Fights" tattooed on your forehead, or smashing a friends face in for a couple of bucks is better of than talking on a show about an experience in your life.
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
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Originally Posted by Nation_1ne
You called me a hypoctire for crying out loud. If that isn't what you were referring to then tell me, what do you mean?
Well I think you're rather delusional then. I don't see how having "Bum Fights" tattooed on your forehead, or smashing a friends face in for a couple of bucks is better of than talking on a show about an experience in your life.
as you are as well... let me see if i can explain it in a simple way..
none of us have the right to say what's wrong or right for these bums...
simple: are you a bum? where you there? do you know these bums? if not, then who are you to say what is right or wrong... you are a hypocrite becuase you obviously don't want marijuana to be illegal, which the govt. decides is bad and wrong for us, which i'm sure you think is wrong but now flip it around and you're trying to say what is right or wrong... does that mean it's not wrong? no. just simply you don't have the right to say such a thing, until you are in that position you don't have the right to say what is good or bad for them.... they are adults and can make their own decisions, and simply put to argue that, is to argue that it is wrong that the govt. should have the same control over us.
next....
regret... so maybe they regretted it afterward, but they sure were willing to do it before hand correct? what about the horrible stories and memories being brought up so dr. phil can keep his show on the air... what about the real victims... i don't care who you are or what you say, being a rape victim myself, i can promise you it hurts much deeper and much worse, then having a tattoo on your face, being hit in the face with a brick or the humility they put the bums through for the show.... unless you were a victim yourself i don't think you can really even begin to understand the pain and anguish such a thing causes... and for some they lock it away and try to move on, then they go on this show, not thinking, and there is dr. phil, bringing back a flood of memories and nightmares and pain.
again, dr. phil is more exploitave then bumfights
both are exploitave, but there is no way in hell anything they've done to any bum could hurt as bad or bring back such pain as the shows i've seen dr. phil do... and he rarely even has compassion... he hardly lets them finish what they feel the need to say... his main tagline is "im gonna stop you for a moment" for christs sake...
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
as you are as well... let me see if i can explain it in a simple way..
none of us have the right to say what's wrong or right for these bums...
simple: are you a bum? where you there? do you know these bums? if not, then who are you to say what is right or wrong... you are a hypocrite becuase you obviously don't want marijuana to be illegal, which the govt. decides is bad and wrong for us, which i'm sure you think is wrong but now flip it around and you're trying to say what is right or wrong... does that mean it's not wrong? no. just simply you don't have the right to say such a thing, until you are in that position you don't have the right to say what is good or bad for them.... they are adults and can make their own decisions, and simply put to argue that, is to argue that it is wrong that the govt. should have the same control over us.
next....
regret... so maybe they regretted it afterward, but they sure were willing to do it before hand correct? what about the horrible stories and memories being brought up so dr. phil can keep his show on the air... what about the real victims... i don't care who you are or what you say, being a rape victim myself, i can promise you it hurts much deeper and much worse, then having a tattoo on your face, being hit in the face with a brick or the humility they put the bums through for the show.... unless you were a victim yourself i don't think you can really even begin to understand the pain and anguish such a thing causes... and for some they lock it away and try to move on, then they go on this show, not thinking, and there is dr. phil, bringing back a flood of memories and nightmares and pain.
again, dr. phil is more exploitave then bumfights
both are exploitave, but there is no way in hell anything they've done to any bum could hurt as bad or bring back such pain as the shows i've seen dr. phil do... and he rarely even has compassion... he hardly lets them finish what they feel the need to say... his main tagline is "im gonna stop you for a moment" for christs sake...
Dear god, your arguments fails, and hard for that matter. I refuse to even bother trying to explain myself again. This has gone from an interesting debate to you making petey insults and arguments that stand on very thin ice, and some have no relevance to the subject at hand anyway.
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
no you just refuse to listen to anything other then your own ideas... if you don't bother listening, how is it supposed ot make sense...
and btw i never wanted a debate anyways, i expressed my opinion twice, instead of just seeing it was my opinion you chose to debate it...
and for some odd reason you somehow had gotten the idea in your head i was saying it wasn't morally wrong.
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
I find the phil house an excellent example of how he exploits people.
You know phil and Oprah don't get along anymore. She makes a huge percentage off his show and he feels she needs to get her hands out of his wallet.
She hired him because of the Beef Industry lawsuit.
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
no you just refuse to listen to anything other then your own ideas... if you don't bother listening, how is it supposed ot make sense...
I always listen to other peoples opinions and take them time to see where they're coming from. I have read every word you had written and replied to them. I think that show's I do listen.
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
and btw i never wanted a debate anyways, i expressed my opinion twice, instead of just seeing it was my opinion you chose to debate it...
The moment you questioned my reasoning you opened it up for debate. If you didn't want to debate the mater you wouldn't have made the query.
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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
and for some odd reason you somehow had gotten the idea in your head i was saying it wasn't morally wrong.
So in that case the whole thing about me being a hypocrite about wanting to make cannabis legal (which has no relevance in this subject anyway) makes you a hypocrite also for thinking it's morally wrong?
Good day to you sir.
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
i just give up, i don't wanna sit here and argue any longer.... i've been up far too long and i'm far too sober to deal with it...
i apologize, i sincerely do. it was never my intention to start some fight or debate....
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
I feel relieved to see this one seems to be waning in civilized fashion instead of flaring. I want to leave this thread open and am going to for a while longer.
Boys, don't make me come upstairs and close it, OK?
Haha, Dr. Phil kicked them offstage.
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
You can thank Oprah for making that idiot a household name.
I hate her and Phil and his wife and kids. What a bunch of scammers and some unfortunates hang on their every word.
Oprah is a big fat phoney too.:mad: