Hostel II - going too far?
Here's what a reviewer had to say in today's Daily Record:
"This time, it's the girl's turn, which somehow just isn't as easy on the palate."
"...the tension that came from the original's slow realisation of what was going on is absent. Roth increases the gore to fill the gap."
"There's one particular slash-and-scream scene here that is so sickening I'm surprised it got past the censors."
"That's the problem with Hostel: Part II. It's reprehensible on so many levels - not just the horrible violence but also its racist attititude to every East European character."
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AND according to Roth in the scenes in Amsterdam in Hostel part I, Dutch people speak German!
Hostel II - going too far?
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Originally Posted by Staurm
Here's what a reviewer had to say in today's Daily Record:
"This time, it's the girl's turn, which somehow just isn't as easy on the palate."
"...the tension that came from the original's slow realisation of what was going on is absent. Roth increases the gore to fill the gap."
"There's one particular slash-and-scream scene here that is so sickening I'm surprised it got past the censors."
"That's the problem with Hostel: Part II. It's reprehensible on so many levels - not just the horrible violence but also its racist attititude to every East European character."
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AND according to Roth in the scenes in Amsterdam in Hostel part I, Dutch people speak German!
My surname is Roth.
It's a game. It's not real, and i dont think a game CAN go too far. Ever.
Hostel II - going too far?
So if there was a "game" that vividly portrayed paedophilia, that wouldn't be going too far then? Dunno what you mean by game anyway, its a film, but if there was a game that protrayed that using state of the art graphics...
Hostel II - going too far?
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Originally Posted by Staurm
So if there was a "game" that vividly portrayed paedophilia, that wouldn't be going too far then? Dunno what you mean by game anyway, its a film, but if there was a game that protrayed that using state of the art graphics...
I was talking in terms of violence.
And it's the same with games, movies and games. They're both getting more violent, but i dont think, in terms of violence you can go too far. You can only get so horrific, and if people want to go watch that kind of stuff than they should be allowed. I dont think movies OR games should be banned because of excessive violence. The vast majority of people who play those kinds of games and watch those types of movies KNOW it's all fake, and know it's not real life.
I dont think anything can be too violent for people to watch, IF they want to watch it.
Hostel II - going too far?
Hostel II has a somewhat more sexual element, from a sadomasochist stand point, some people are into that.
Hostel II - going too far?
hostel I was so much better than II
Hostel II - going too far?
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Originally Posted by LIP
The vast majority of people who play those kinds of games and watch those types of movies KNOW it's all fake, and know it's not real life.
But It IS real life though, it depicts what sometimes happens, or the level of depravity that society and the sickness of the human mind can and does reach. I don't like the fact that violence is so much a part of modern culture, and I'd rather people didn't put out shit like this. But, if people want to watch it I'm not stopping them.
I'm up for a bit of gore and horror, but Eli Roth is taking it too far.
Hostel II - going too far?
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Originally Posted by Staurm
But It IS real life though, it depicts what sometimes happens, or the level of depravity that society and the sickness of the human mind can and does reach. I don't like the fact that violence is so much a part of modern culture, and I'd rather people didn't put out shit like this. But, if people want to watch it I'm not stopping them.
I'm up for a bit of gore and horror, but Eli Roth is taking it too far.
Well, i havnt seen either 1 or 2, so maybe im wrong and i'd agree if i saw it.
I did see an advert for it last night [i think, i might be imagining it]
The thing is, what do we class as TOO violent?
Hostel II - going too far?
TBH I enjoyed Hostel I up until the torture. As a bit of light entertainment after a weeks hard slog it did the trick, two guys off on a trip round Europe ending up in a hostel in E Europe having sex with loads of hot girls.
It's more to do with the suggestion rather than the actual violence you see, although there is plenty of that. In the same way Tarantino uses this to great effect. It just creeps me out when I think about it, I suppose its meant to.
But you know I watched Evil Dead when I was about 9 I think, I used to love zombie and horror movies when I was that age. I think these are more just comedy gorefests, you know a bit nightmare fantasy than sicko torture fests. There is a big difference I think.
Hostel II - going too far?
tarantino did it with loads of style and if you actually go back and watch resevoir dogs instead of making assumptions youll see the camera actually just moves away from the body, shows absolutely none of the torture, then comes back once the ear is gone. we spent about fifteen minutes talking about how well done that scene was and how it is so often misrepresented as really graphically violent when it fact no violence is shown...that goes for most tarantino violence scenes as well, so id say pay some attention before you slag the guy off. outside of kill bill, where the violence was so fake ridiculous and over the top, if you took it seriously you are just a wussy.
agree with you on hostel though. same with the saw movies after the first one. i dont get my jollies watching people get tortured or on violence for the sake of violence. comparing tarantino to roth is ludicrous. i realize he has his name attached to the movies. that is where it ends though, he doesnt make them
