why do people hate God if they dont belive in Him

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Originally Posted by jdmarcus59

I think that your right people do have a promblem with religion, I do too.
Religion is mans way of reaching towards god, trying to be good enough
to work your way into heaven or wherever, but christ did away with all
that, God is on your side, even if you dont belive, He does not want to
hit you over the head, He wants only to bless your life...

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Religions are mans way of explaining the un-explainable. "Gods" are the mommy's of the human race, when we stub our toe in life we turn to the only imaginable 'shoulder' to cry on that wont tell us to "suck it up". A god.
I have no beef with people of faith, its the people who take it so literal, and are sooo narrow-minded that they are ignorant to other peoples ideas and ways of thinking that irritate me.
Imo a religion is a guideline to living your life. Try taking the best from all religions and you'll live a peaceful, meaningful life.
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Originally Posted by jdmarcus59

if I could prove to you that God is real, would you belive and follow Him?
are would you still go your own way, and belive what you want?

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If you gave me some actual proof, and my ability to understand logic and personality agreed it was true, yeah sure I would. Evolution makes a lot of sense....God doesn't. You have to stop talking about religion dude....just live life.

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Originally Posted by Matt the Funk

If you gave me some actual proof, and my ability to understand logic and personality agreed it was true, yeah sure I would. Evolution makes a lot of sense....God doesn't. You have to stop talking about religion dude....just live life.

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Iam not talking about my religion, Iwas just asking a qustion, and see how
angery you got. case in point.

Only you took that as anger.

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As an agnostic I wish i could believe there was a God since i cannot disPROVE either I cannot reject either. To me this is rational thinking. The problem is that all over the world people believe in different Gods, and all of these ideas contradict one another. If you were born in India, you might worship a cow, not because that is rational but because you were raised around that particular brand of thinking. Since most of us are results of english speaking protestantism many of us see the Jesus senario as a much more viable scenario. The problem is NO ONE knows shit about what or who God is. Not you, not me, not even the men who wrote the bible. The scriptures may have been inspired by god but were deffinatly edited by man. This creates a problem since according to the bible man is as stupid as a sheep( one of the dumbest creatures in existance) so are we to follow the biblical scriptures that were written by flawed man, should we follow our flawed religious leaders. No, find out what God is on your own...if you believe he created all of nature, look there...but dont accept the words of man as evidence. Use the rationality that god may or may not have given all of us.

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Originally Posted by Beano

Only you took that as anger.

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No I think my friend got a little, anger..with love iam sure..

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

Oh my god. You guys are right, I am just talking about man. Freewill, what a beautiful concept.

So, wait, here's where I get confused, if it's all my choice to make, and I alone am responsible for the consequences of my own actions, where does god fit in? Isn't belief in god completely extraneous? Like an appendix, something that we've totally evolved beyond now?

Or will believing in God grant me some special power? Can I call down lightning on the unbelievers or unleash plagues?

You're saying that a belief in god yields precisely the same outlook as an atheistic humanitarian ethos, when properly applied... So why bother?

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You make a great point, Polymirize.

I don't think it's God that has become extraneous, but rather the belief in a God who's will is separate from our own. I don't think that God is some overlord who is waiting to punish us if we should deviate from his intentions -- how can anything oppose an omnipotent being's will in the first place? Rather, I think it makes more sense to consider that God's will IS free will, and that in such a manner we ourselves are God.

The word 'sin', according to its Greek roots, means 'to miss the mark'. And I think it makes a lot more sense that a sin is just an action that falls short of or contradicts our own will and intentions, whether they be personal or collective intentions, rather than being a digression from some external god's.

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Originally Posted by jdmarcus59

Iam not talking about my religion, Iwas just asking a qustion, and see how
angery you got. case in point.

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Lol. I wasn't angry one bit. Making a statement broooooo...Anyways this whole God thing is overly talked about and there is no way to prove him(or else i'm sure everyone would believe in him). Everyone just needs to stop beating this dead horse!:beatdeadhorse:

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Originally Posted by Matt the Funk

Lol. I wasn't angry one bit. Making a statement broooooo...Anyways this whole God thing is overly talked about and there is no way to prove him(or else i'm sure everyone would believe in him). Everyone just needs to stop beating this dead horse!:beatdeadhorse:

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but the horse arose 3 days latter, ha ha just having fun with you man.
love and peace I leave with you..

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Originally Posted by jdmarcus59

No I think my friend got a little, anger..with love iam sure..

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