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oh dont worry man soon as my sister comes over i am gonna get some damn pics haha have not had the time to be able to get pics and stuff been busy with work but on a happy note my youngest one is a female so im happy
well i hope you get ya plant issue fixed goodluck oh and yeah i have been smokin on some of the bud i grew haha happy to say it was seedless and it was some fire hell the leaves that grow out of the bud after they were dry smelled more like fire buds then leaves they got me stoned to haha well take care man :jointsmile::thumbsup:
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I thought id put up the ''family'' gang i didn't Post the other day. Im thinking they are all the same strain, guessing WW. But could be wrong, but wonderful if im right. I know it takes longer with them iv read and they have really just started showing not long ago. As the ''upways'' plant, which needs a new name btw is showing bunches of pistils forming buds. You can tell on the shot i hope becomes at giant cola, iv never had one before. But i guess what im saying is 3 WW's and either 2 Wit, WR or WH, or i guess im still not sure. But the first 3 look the same to me and the one i have in flower looks sorta like the cola on the ''upways'', il call it ''sparky'' as its got some spark in it man. So anyone think they look similar?
Ok it loaded in only 30min tonight:thumbsup:
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hey sup bro yeah man the first 3 looks really alike but im really stoned lol and that last pic looks like your gonna have one huge cola haha goodluck and keep it up man :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:
oh and p.s i posted some pics today go take a look
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Well the Wit didn't load last night so here it is and no comments on the plant on the right as when it was re potted to finish a friend cut the roots off on all four sides and bottom. But in their defense they help me do my re veg and thought thats how it was done. Nope, but shes recovering now. I guess ya cant see it in the pic, oh well:thumbsup:
Also i posted a pic of a side branch of sparky, which looks very similar to the Wit plant in first pic. You can see the top in the second to last pic getting bigger:thumbsup:and its got pollen on a bottom branch to start my seed breeding adventure:cool:. But getting back to the pic of the branch, they all look like this and would be so cool to see them all bud up like colas, but iv never had that sorta like so im not counting on it, just hoping:D
Last pic is a NL branch of buds growing. Now its been doing this for a long time, but now im worried that i will not have enough leaves to feed the buds:mad:. The other day it got 5gallons of straight water, in hopes it washes any built up nutes in the ground. I will watch her for a couple days, then give just a bit of molasses. If things go well, then il hit her with nutes, just want the bacteria the molasses gives which is mild to the ferts iv given. If it gets too humid il spray her with some baking soda water at spots on the plant that looks like it could rot. I dont need anymore issues with her for sure.
Is what it is tho, will see later in the week:rasta:
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Hmm...Looking at 'em, I'll have to go back to my first question in your Plant Problems post, and ask about the drainage. It looks like possible root rot (overwatering) to me, not a fungus or mold. Ya gotta ask, is something external (mold or fungus) causing the yellowing, or is the yellowing an indication of something else within the plant, and the yellowed/necrotic tissue is decaying? A bad root-zone can mess with leaf structure, color and function, depending on severity and cause. (overwatering, underwatering, ph issues...)
If not drainage, are you altering your watering/feeding schedule to adjust for rainfall?
If it continues much further, I think I'd try and foliar feed 'em a dose, and watch the reaction. If yellowing slows or color returns a tad, then that is a possible indicator of nutrient uptake issues, and can go from there.
If you keep spraying to cure the 'blight' and it's still coming on strong, either it's not blight, or the application/spray is ineffective.
Keeping fingers crossed. :thumbsup:
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Hmm...Looking at 'em, I'll have to go back to my first question in your Plant Problems post, and ask about the drainage. It looks like possible root rot (overwatering)
Thanks for still trying to help out Rusty, i really appreciate it very much:thumbsup: Ok so i really dont think its over watering at all. My methods were in June was to hit them with the all purpose stuff 15-20-15 when it rained. Now it did rain more so then last year for sure and peoples veggie gardens are suffering bad. Then after a rain i would hit them again, then rain and again, and so on. But never gave plain water in between, because the rain took care of that for me. I never put ferts on without a good rain in between, ever. As far as drainage, thats tough to know as its under ground, but when feeding it goes straight into the ground and no puddles are left. And the 3 other big ones are in the same area, il say the plant thats closest is 10'. And then the others are 10' apart from each other. Now i dig the hole and this NL spot was the most easy to dig. So i guess the soil, at least 2' of it was very easy to dig up and was not dense and i saw no clay. While putting them in, i did run into a rock here and there, but nothing bigger then your fist.
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to me, not a fungus or mold. Ya gotta ask, is something external (mold or fungus) causing the yellowing, or is the yellowing an indication of something else within the plant, and the yellowed/necrotic tissue is decaying? A bad root-zone can mess with leaf structure, color and function, depending on severity and cause. (overwatering, underwatering, ph issues...)
I believe my watering is on, but PH could be wacko, i have a meter, but just not sure how to get a reading in less i dig 2'-3' away from the plant and give her a few gallons of water. This way it will drain through where i feed the plant and spread out through the plants growing area to get the best reading. This almost makes me want to cut up a garden hose and next year, place one at each stem, this way i could water and attach a PH strip to a stick and put it down the hose to get my reading. Not a bad idea.
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If not drainage, are you altering your watering/feeding schedule to adjust for rainfall?
Like i said we had almost a record rain fall year and was over for the month of June. So when i knew the rain was coming, i would hit them with about a half gallon each. Then the rain would come and in my opinion would help the ferts to the ends of all the roots. And there was never a period of time in the month when we didn't get rain at least 2 or 3 times in a week. So i could guess my average fert feedings were at least every 3-4 days. But never without a rain in between and after.
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If it continues much further, I think I'd try and foliar feed 'em a dose, and watch the reaction. If yellowing slows or color returns a tad, then that is a possible indicator of nutrient uptake issues, and can go from there.
Well i gave them 5 gallons of water to flush anything that was built up. I thought this was the least restrictive method for the plant at this time. When looking at it, its still a nice deep green on the inner parts of each branch, but still im getting the spotting, then goes green, but this was before all the water i gave Sunday. Its going to hit 90 Tues, but how long do you think i should wait before trying foliar feeding. I haven't tried any sorta fungicide, but thought about baking soda. Only because it seems mild as a treatment and was thinking it might dry up the spots that look real bad. But haven't researched it, so its something im not familiar with at all, just read a bit on it helping a mold issue.
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If you keep spraying to cure the 'blight' and it's still coming on strong, either it's not blight, or the application/spray is ineffective.
Looked and looked, but cant find a pic of it on a MJ plant, which would be a lot easier to tell if it is blight. Found potato's and tomato's, but not one weed leaf, i even called the University of Massachusetts, but she said that a diagnosis would be impossible without seeing it in person. She was very nice, but did not want to put herself in which she might get it wrong.
So the most mild nute i have is Big Bloom, how much do i mix and should i try just only the bad spots or just hit the whole plant. Iv sprayed my bonsai's with water, but never feed any plant before. And the whole plant is bad so i guess id spray her down.
Like i mentioned before, the plant has nice buds in there but im afraid of losing all my leaves, with nothing left to feed my buds?
Ever heard about pinching the stem to create a bigger uptake on the inside of the stalk? I read it would only create a knot on the outside which then helps make the inside pull up more fluids and food? This guy has an MBA in horticulture and was who made this claim.
Anyway, thanks for hanging in there with me Rusty:thumbsup:
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Pinching (or crimping) the stem is called Supercropping. I use it as a technique to slow-down early flowering stretch on some of my sativa doms, but not too sure of it being a major benefit as far as yield though. Makes the cola a tad swollen, but I believe it's 'robbing from peter to pay paul', and side branching and overall yield suffers a tad. A six of one, half dozen of the other thing.
Never used Big Bloom as a stand-alone nutrient, but I'd spray entire plant at half 'normal' foliar strength on the bottle, and see if it's underfeeding. I have no idea what you put in the soil, or how long it will feed the plants...but ya gotta feed 'em sooner or later.
With the FF trio, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom have the micronutrients. Big Bloom is the catalyst that makes 'em work better, but has no micro's. Might be that you have micronute defeciencies, also.
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Pinching (or crimping) the stem is called Supercropping. I use it as a technique to slow-down early flowering stretch on some of my sativa doms, but not too sure of it being a major benefit as far as yield though. Makes the cola a tad swollen, but I believe it's 'robbing from peter to pay paul', and side branching and overall yield suffers a tad. A six of one, half dozen of the other thing.
Thanks for the info and yeah that makes sense for the plant to feed up and miss the branches. And thought Supercropping was something al together, i guess thats what i get for not reading the small bit i found in here.
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Never used Big Bloom as a stand-alone nutrient, but I'd spray entire plant at half 'normal' foliar strength on the bottle, and see if it's underfeeding. I have no idea what you put in the soil, or how long it will feed the plants...but ya gotta feed 'em sooner or later.
I was thinking the same thing Rusty. And 5 gallons of water im sure should have washed out a lot of what i put in here. The soil is very rich and dark looking and year ago was a cattle ranch, plus my spot was cleared of many thickets that had grown for years. Took near a month to clear them out, but all the growth in fall that died im sure helped out the soil as sorta one big compost pile. Well at least its helping the others get really big.
I even have a gallon of half dose mixed iv been giving my clone about twice a week. She luvs it and looks like it grows so fast after a feeding. First time iv tried to clone and got 1 out of 3 to live, but got it from the NL right before signs of the sickness.
But im really new to these nutes and its hard to fallow the directions when the plants are outside. I wanted to use only the solubles to build my buds up and save the other for indoor growing, but like ya said that plant needs some food at some point and 15-20-15 would be way to strong IMO.
I thought of getting the fert sick you put into the ground for a month or so to see if it pulled from them. And if the plant wouldn't, then i would think its a root issue, which i would not even know where to begin with such a problem.
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With the FF trio, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom have the micronutrients. Big Bloom is the catalyst that makes 'em work better, but has no micro's. Might be that you have micronute defeciencies, also.
I was gifted them, which was a very big gift, just need to learn how to use them and there getting low now. I would like to get more soon, but maybe something organic as im seeing a lot of growers going that way. Just not sure which kind, there are so many these days.
Thanks for hanging in with me Rusty:thumbsup:, she will come around:thumbsup:
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Thanks for hanging in with me Rusty:thumbsup:
That's why they pay me the big bucks. :jointsmile:
Just kidding...It would be nice were I paid, but then this would be a...ahem...what's the word...JOB. :wtf:
If you have and are going to use the trio, I believe I'd go with the website directions for weekly feeding, and adjust from there. (Fox Farms do answer e-mails ;) ) Unless you added bat guano, worm castings, kelp or any other long-lasting organic...in which case, I would look at what they are releasing, and adjust your Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom to compliment, not hinder your N-P-K totals for flowering. (did that make sense...?) Actually, that should be done for any ammendment and nutrient. Redundancies (needless repetition) can kill.
I'm pretty sure outdoors, the plants need more nutrients anyway, but 15-20-15 does sound like an every two week ratio. (akin to a Miracle Grow schedule, which is every 10-14 days) I'd think you should be able to go 1/2 strength weekly though.
The nutrient spikes work on the same principal as the time-release pelleted nutrients. Here in the desert, I can't use 'em. The heat here in the armpit of hell degrades the coatings and dumps everything after a couple of weeks.
Here's why...
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That's why they pay me the big bucks. :jointsmile:
Just kidding...It would be nice were I paid, but then this would be a...ahem...what's the word...JOB. :wtf:
Well at this point id do just about any job, its much better then being stuck in the boonies.
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If you have and are going to use the trio, I believe I'd go with the website directions for weekly feeding, and adjust from there. (Fox Farms do answer e-mails ;) ) Unless you added bat guano, worm castings, kelp or any other long-lasting organic...in which case, I would look at what they are releasing, and adjust your Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom to compliment, not hinder your N-P-K totals for flowering. (did that make sense...?) Actually, that should be done for any ammendment and nutrient. Redundancies (needless repetition) can kill.
Well im going to see what the 5 gallons of water is going to do before i put anything in the ground, but will spray it Wed evening and see if it helps her. Then and hoping it works, il be very slowly feeding it till its healthy, then leave her to nature. If your thinking my ferts i use is a 10-14 day thing, i could have built up so many nutes in the ground its not funny. Feeding at least 3x a week in July:wtf:and looking back the growth was odd. It might of been my warning sign, i thought was just the growth of a re vegged plant. But the others looked nothing like it so i should have stopped hitting the NL as much.damn
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I'm pretty sure outdoors, the plants need more nutrients anyway, but 15-20-15 does sound like an every two week ratio. (akin to a Miracle Grow schedule, which is every 10-14 days) I'd think you should be able to go 1/2 strength weekly though.
Yep and i hit em hard with all the rain we were getting.
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The nutrient spikes work on the same principal as the time-release pelleted nutrients. Here in the desert, I can't use 'em. The heat here in the armpit of hell degrades the coatings and dumps everything after a couple of weeks.
Here's why...
That was interesting as i thought it was water that activated the sticks.
So here is my Wit and Maxine plants. The Wit is doing well and the top grew so much, just over night. I have put some pollen on her in hope for my breeding attempt to start here, but no sign of seeds yet. Of course this plant will be re vegged, so il take some of the plant and let the lowers finish up my seeds.
But as you can see the Maxine isn't looking real well, but way better then it did. I had someone re pot it who helped me with my first re vegged plants so they thought they had to cut the roots off or trim them rather, but as you can see it went into that big ass pot.:wtf:. I should have done it myself, i take the fault here. But im thinking Maxine is the same strains as the ''family'' plants, which means im thinking its WW. So by watching the WW grows, i know its will take longer to finish up so getting the Wit out is important. I want to concentrate all my lights on the hopeful WW to get the buds nice and big, like a 12 pak, lmao:wtf:. One of the biggest buds iv ever seen was when irydyum grow out them WW's, incredible. No im not going to get that, but il put my CFL's together and get what i can. So maybe at the end of the month il harvest the bigger Wit buds and trim it down till the seeds are done. Then move the Wit into veg and throw all my lights at the hopeful WW.
Ti's the plan anyway:thumbsup:. I had a small sample of the Wit and 3 tokes later i woke up the next morning fully rested with my TV and light still on:stoned: so i guess a night time med:cool: If ya got time to open the link there are so many smaller buds on the inside of the Wit plant and the top is bigger then a cell phone. I think bigger then my last and first grow.
BTW I tried bending both over for space and broke the stem on the Wit, but thats what masking tape is for as you see no big negative affects to the plant. But i will say that here pot is chuck filled with roots, but she keeps on getting bigger. I think and if im wrong please tell me, but i feed, water then let her dry out as close to bone as i can get her, then feed, water and so on. I think that letting her dry out is helping the roots to breath a bit before feeding so when i do feed, she eats them up and isn't giving me issues for being root bound. Just a thought? If im way off let me know please.
Sorry for double pic, iv got way to many irons in the fire around here:wtf:il post them in the morning.:D
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