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Hey O.M ,
Great part about playin God w/ the plants = you can put the further along plants further away from the light source , and lil ones closer so lil guys can play catch up , just a cpl. days won't make much dif. anyways.
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
Omg I finally got light and that thing is heavy as fuck lol. I also didn't expect it to be as big as it is but what ever. I'm pissed because I wanted to set it up today. Thing said it was coming with chains but they didn't fuckin come with the light so now I'm getting some chains tomorrow. The buzzing is also a lot louder than I expected. I tried to determine the loudness from the fluoro light we have in the bathroom but this is just a bit louder. I'll probably keep dehumidifier running to drown out some of the buzzing in the room. Hopefully the fan with the carbon filter isn't any louder than the light is! :wtf: Hopefully I get at least two females. While bringing stuff in the room I knocked over my pots twice but since the seed already took root it didn't fall out of the dirt but the pots did fall over with some dirt falling out too. Hopefully that didn't cause any stress or make them die later on today or tomorrow. I hope all goes well :D.
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meh maby its a lil late but i just found this thread on low smell verities
~Russ~
Sounds good om. Pics soon would be cool.
Well Matt I guess I could post some pics lol. I wasn't gonna post anything at all but I guess pics would be cool. I've been through this germination stage soo many times it's starting to annoy me lol but here's the seedling. It's the fastest growing out of the other 2. Other 2 haven't popped out of dirt enough to be worth taking pictures of so I just decided to take a pic of the one that's about to split it's shell off. Tomorrow I expect it to be off trying to spread it's embryo leaves :D. Ya I know, I know not worth posting but I'm bored so I did it anyways lol. I didn't plan on having the other two in the white cups in those small cups but that's all I could find for the time being. When all three outgrows the cups their in now I'm gonna transplant them to real pots.
I was just wondering if my light should be safe from falling? That thing was so heavy setting it up and I'm thinking about all the days it'll have to be just hanging up until harvest. The catalog said it was 40 lbs but it also said the lights would come with chains which it didn't so there's obvious mis-information in that thing. Maybe I'm just weak but it feels heavier than 40 lbs. I'm guessing the weight of the light included the enclosed ballast... Should it be fine?
Btw when the light is on after a few minutes the bulb starts to make a ringing noise, it's not really that loud but I know it shouldn't be rambling like that. I just screwed it in even tighter so hopefully that stops some of the noise. Lol I never had experience with HID light so I treated it like an old CFL or incandescent and tried to screw in tighter while it was still on. The damn cloth that I used started smoking lol!
Btw I decided for safety issues just to totally not have a grow log. I will update my plants growth and show a pic or two every now and again here but I am totally not having a grow log.
O MY GOD!!!!!! you fuckin touched that thing while on??! wow you got balls and obviously no experience with them lights ... wow that bulb musta been hot!!! how many hours was it on thats unbelievable it gets hundreds and hundreds of degress hot after half a day .. ouch
Relax I had a rag over my hand, I didn't know the damn things got that fuckin hot hahah! But do you guys think I'll really need a carbon filter for 3 plants? Isn't there a cheaper solution for such little plants?
Ive been burnt by the oven through the hotpad twice..
ive burnt my hand on my lighter terribly countless times without touching the flame..
I see a rag saving your hand from that light as a miracle...3rd degree burns cant be fun..
anyways congrats and everything u encounter can be handled by yourself and occasionaly a High times will help... I dust a blunt and post in barnes n nobles... in my old town i just walked out with a couple of em but not anymore and i dont suggest it ...anyways they got great info from people having problems and surprise theyre people without internet.../ dont trust internet.
OM - I dont think you will need a carbon air scrubber for a 250W grow. There will be some smell, but seriously if you get some glade plug ins and cook something spicy when the family comes over you should be ok. Also - I think the open door ventilation will work using two small 8-12" fans. This is what I would do - take one of the fans and blow it directly under the light - use an old chair or something to keep it at the right height. Use the second fan to blow air out. Try to run the lights at night when it is cooler so your temps dont get to high and people arent as likely to come through. Is someone gonna be home to close the door when you are in 12/12?
The truth is this - unless you want to be there opening and closing your door every twelve hours to block out the light you are gonna HAVE to ventilate using other methods - if you dont it will get too hot and your buds will turn out shitty. I have attempted this EXACT same grow before in a slightly smaller space (a cab) but I ventilated with a squirrel cage fan and honestly - it still got too hot and I wound up with weak nugs. The resin glands do not develop right when the temps go high. The main problem you will have is not smell - it is the ventilation.
I did think of one thing you could do though that might work. This is kinda hard to explain without a drawing but -- you could take a large piece of cardboard, the length and width of your door (or maybe put two pieces together that total the width of your door) and cut holes in it for exhaust. You could then set up the exhaust system - one fan blowing air in, one fan blowing air out. You would put the cardboard frame a few inches inside of the doorframe and you could leave the door open while the cardboard frame (with exhaust holes built in) blocks out the light. You could even paint the inside of the cardboard white or put some mylar on it. Basically you are making a cardboard wall that will block out light and will provide ventilation but can be hidden when guests come over. When people come over, you could shut the ventilation system down, close the door, maybe raise the light and throw one of those C02 pucks in there so the plants wont sufficate. Your cardboard wall with all the crazy ventilation looking shit will be completely hidden when the door is closed. If you dont get what Im sayin let me know and I will draw it for you.
dude just put some odor neutralizers throughout the house and in the room so it doesn't smell since you cant set any big shit up. Good luck.
ps. From two seeds it is likely that one is male so cross your fingers. Mabe you can clone some and flower them to see what gender they are before really continuing when they are a foot tall.
The last plant that I grew that didn't stink was shitty weed. Best weed I've ever grown nearly knocked me down with the smell. My two cents.
Lol man I keep constantly saying that closet is down stairs and it's cold down there already. IT DOES NOT GET HOT. EVEN WITH THE 250W IT DOES NOT GO OVER 80 DEGREES!. Until 2 pm (a few hours ago) the light was on for all the previous hours. That room just does not get hot. I do not need to open my door ever unless I want to visit my ladies. I'm still getting a fan though how ever just because I think it's the right thing to do. But thanks for the suggestion. I was pretty sure I didn't need a damn carbon filter for 3 plants lol.
Btw Guerilla I have 3 seedlings not 2.
Damn my plants are really doin good. It seems like in just 8 hours they make progress lol. Just went down to check, now I have timer set up they are in the dark but I took em out to look at em. They are even bigger than they were this morning. I would take pics but I'm too afraid of that new top rated threads and pics thing so I probably won't post pics until I have buds so I don't have to post anything really much. Yes I am paranoid I know, but better safe than sorry.
Oh btw for those that use liquid nutes I have a question. The directions says I only need 2 tsp per gallon so I was wondering if it was alright if I just bought a gallon of water and just add 2 tsp to that gallon and just keep it in the room and use that jug when ever the plants needed feeding? I don't know if the nutes will still have the same effect if it has been sitting in the water for like a week or so. Any feedback?
Ok I think I might end up getting this
Odor Sok - Activated Carbon Filters. Odour Sock makes carbon canister filters obselete. Perfect for hydroponics - Home
I think it'll work fine :).
edit: Btw how will I know which fan I should get for the filter? Do I search for a matching CFM descrip or what?
Hey Orangeman, I think I have the same light you do, only 400w (econogro mini?) Probably about the same weight, and it's heavy as hell. I love mine except for the heat.
Instead of hooks I used eyebolts drilled and threaded through a closet shelf and again through a 2x4 piece of wood for reinforcement, and locked down the bolts with a washer and nut. I also didn't raise or lower the light (why tempt fate?). Instead, I raised and lowered the plants!
It's tore up now, cause I switched to CFLs for a lowryder 2 seed run or I could show you.
You might want to at least washer and nut those hooks, maybe try to bend the hooks back with pliers, cause it looks like the chain could slip.
Good luck! Show pics.
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I've used Miracle Grow Bloom Booster and Peter's 20-20-20, mixed to outdoor strength...but for those I'm pretty sure it's one level tablespoon (the bigger spoon of the two) to a gallon of water. 1st Feeding, I dump 3/4 of the jug out and filled it back with regular water, diluting the mix to 1/4 outdoor strenghth. Then 2 or 3 regular waterings (with heavy flushing, steady streaming out the bottom). 2nd feeding, 1/2 strength, then regular water, working up to full strenghth. By the time I hit full strength it's time to convert to 12/12...flush real good, then repeat with bloom booster.
It might seem wasteful to dump the mix, but I'm on my 3rd grow since Jan 06with the same two boxes and plenty left!
Yeah I have the econogro mini 250 watt. And I think the chains are fine. YES that thing is fuckin HEAVY. I am so weak too so that sucks lol. I almost made a boo-boo earlier trying to get the light at a good height. They wont slip though. The chains are comfy and so are the hooks lol.
edit: figured I'd attach some pics of the ladies.