but yet to you if a 15 year old girls body is ready enough to produce a child and she gets raped and decides to have the child, that makes her irresponsible right?Quote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
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but yet to you if a 15 year old girls body is ready enough to produce a child and she gets raped and decides to have the child, that makes her irresponsible right?Quote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
No.. wtf, im saying its irresponsible to have a child at 15 because you cant be bothered to use protection
rapes a different matter..
how can you compare forgetting to wear protection with someone your willing to do it with, and compare that with being forced to have sex? :wtf:
Protection is a way to prevent getting pregregnant, but if your getting raped its something beyond your control because your getting raped
because its the same thing as getting pregnant and having a baby. Like I also said earlier, is it irresponsible if the condom breaks and the girl gets pregnant is they were trying to be safe in the first place. You also said that rape does not apply and the only way I am compairing it to this situation is because you said it was irresponsible to not use protection later in your posts, if you said that right off the bat I would have agreed with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
omg
IM NOT TALKING ABOUT RAPE.. IM TALKING ABOUT PREVENTION OF PREGNANCY.. someone cant PREVENT getting pregnant for rape, like they cant prevent a condom breaking.. but to not use protection ATALL is what iv been saying is irresponsible all along.. and alot of children at 15 who have children of theyre own ussually have these children in the first place by not bothering with ANY protection what so ever.. your comparing rape to forgetting to use protection.. you cant compare the two because theyre two completly different things.. one of them they can control but you cant control getting raped CAN YOU?
i seroiusly dont know how none of this is getting threw your head
but figure out when you stated your argument with using protection. later in the thread, in the 2nd or 3rd page. I have agreed with you. and now what im merely doing is making you prove your point by asking you another question. I dont know how you can say how this is not getting through my head because if it wasnt I would have stopped and left. Im not trying to change your mind, im just trying to open it.Quote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
what the hell is b2k. one time my mom made a big stink about my sister getting the tape single of tootsie roll by 69 boys when she was like 12 thinking she knew what 69 meant. then she just let is see and watch what we wanted outside of porno and snuff films because she realized listening to music with swearing and seeing r rated movies doesnt turn you into a deliquent. what is b2k?
B2K is fine, but you may be wary of your son/daughters taste in music....anyways unintentionally getting pregnant is irresponsible, but on purpose doesn't seem too irresponsible to me, who are you to decide when someone can make decisions for themselves?
He does have a point.. Even if u took it away what's stopping him from listening to it. Your just furthering his hatred for adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeenYuss
if i have a kid i am going to try really hard just to keep them from listening to dogshit music, and that can be very hard
how does you putting words in my mouth prove anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Samwhore
i said its irrisponsible to have a child at 15 and your all "so basicly if someones raped and gives birth to the child thats irresponsible"
when it was clearly obvoius from the start i was talking about someone getting pregnant by FREEWILL but just because they merly cant be arsed to put on protection because theyre not old enough to understand how seroius sex is and therfor act irresponsible
basically you have been saying the whole time something to the effect of "100% of human beings of the age of 15 are completely irresponsible if they give birth to a child whether the child was intentional or not"Quote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
what im saying is that yes i agree on the fact that most 15 year old mothers are irresponsible, but if sum1 chose to have a child at that age that does NOT make them irresponsible
oh and ftw i get $3,000 every three months and my child will get $3,000 every three months (per capita from revenue from my tribes casino) i can have my auntie or my grandmother get a place for me in their name, i can pay for it, go to school, my school has a daycare, start college classes at tribal college and get like $7,000 a semester, possibly work etc. and once i turn 18 i'll start getting $2,500 checks bi-weekly
taking care of a baby may be a struggle for some people but not if you are a very devoted person (not to mention a lot of financial aid)
I love all you guys but I agree with Bong on this one (not all of his points though). At the end of the day 15 isn't a reasonable age to be a parent, as I always say the law states this. You're not allowed to have sex till you're 16 for a reason, and I'm sure if you tried to adopt a child at 15 you'd stand no chance. I understand children smoke, have sex, and do all that at a young age but it doesn't make them mature. There maybe a small majority of kids who are mature but trust me there are a higher percentage that do act their age.
i read some of your stuff and think, man this guy is smart, then i read some other of your stuff, this for example, and think about how either nuts or funny you must be.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by SwirlyMass
Having a child at 15 is never a good idea. Does it happen? Yes, of course it does, and some people do a good job of raising thier babies and doing well in life. Its just a lot harder to do. I think the cases of things working out well are a lot fewer and far between than the cases that dont work out.
JeenYuss it sounds like your just trying to milk the system.
Oh and as a side point, mothers 15-19 are 2-3 times as likely to die durring child birth as mothers in their 20's. Girls under 15 are 5 times as likely to die. For those of you who may doubt that this information comes from the article "key issues affecting the status of women" by Sadik.
take away his b2k and replace it with D12 , hahaha,
nah, im fuckin around, dont do that
Excuse me while I light my spliff, Oh Jah, I got to take a lift :rasta:
You are sooooooooooo full of shit. listening to boy bands wont make a boy gay. WTF kinda logic is that. smoke another fucking 3 pounds of crack!
that has got to be the dumbest thing i have heard.
Kissing your girlfriend after she sucked you friends dick. now that can turn you gay....well at least bi!
My 11 year old likes rap, he has NO prejudices of color or gender. good music is good music, no matter who sings it.
Listen ing to boy bands will make you gay is like saying smoking pot is a gateway drug. PURE BULLSHIT!
No.. that is not what i saidQuote:
Originally Posted by JeenYuss
Please show me where i stated 100% of 15 year olds who give birth are irresponsible ;)
Exacly.. stop putting words in my mouth JUST because your cant support your end of the arguement
When you yungons get to be my age you will understand more... Why do you think 15 year olds are still in school??? because they are still learning... if you think about marriage before 20 your a fool who loses their god given right to youth...
As i said.. even if someone WANTED to have a child at 15 (which hardly ANYONE does anyway) its putting them AND the baby more at risk, which is still irresponsible.. jeen according to you it dosnt matter because 15 year olds can be as mature at people in theyre 20's but your fogetting the fact that a 15 year old is NO WHERE FUCKING NEAR to finshing theyre body development.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
thank you key word hardly or not a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
the statement "if you have a baby at 15 you are irresponsible" DOES imply that you are saying 100% of fifteen year olds are irresponsible
try saying most or many 15 year olds are irresponsible
I think its reasonable to assume that he wasnt refering to a stituation such as the child being the result of rape or something beyond their control. Is this way better- any 15 year old in a developed country who wants to have a child at 15 and trys to have a child is irresponsible and does not understand everything that comes along with being a parent.
YES this is absolutely true, don't ANY of you guys even remember the 'I'm 15 and my girlfriend is with baby' thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by b0Ng h!tz 4 mE
The poor girl was 14... pregnant.. . guess how THAT ended...
ding ding ding, to those of you who guessed MISCARRIAGE, you win a lifetime supply of condoms
As for the whole responsibility thing, the poster, lil josh, went on to post all sorts of crap within the next month after that happened about being out drunk, fighting, almost getting arrested.... yeeeeaaaaah.... responsibility....
why did my post about a hip hop group suddenly get taken over by a 15 year old that wants to get knowcked up. Start a new thread. and get a job so you and your bastard kid wont be a drain on the welfare system.
man start a new thread kill this shit ffs.. who cares!
AHAHAH.^^^
I don't think you need to worry about the music, I think you need to worry about the world. Kids, even young kids, are being exposed to sex and violence everywhere, even in schools. If he/she doesn't listen to one band at home, he/she will listen to it elsewhere.
lol gotta love them B2K
see what u started gatekeeper
Lol you shouldn't be worrying about B2K. You should be worrying more about Pretty Ricky. They seem to attract a lot of younger listeners from what I see. Like younger than 12 lol and they are explicit. But I like 'em though.
I find it very sad that this is the year 2007 and we still have to argue about literally the most retardedly obvious issues known to man...
Debates and arguments are the most entertaining things in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thepossumdance
they are but only when they are relevent...