trees will never be legal in the states but we can sure as hell hope everyone gets the hint. everyone tokes up atleast once.:jointsmile:
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trees will never be legal in the states but we can sure as hell hope everyone gets the hint. everyone tokes up atleast once.:jointsmile:
Man honestly I do not think it will be regulated everywhere in every state, so nah I say no.
Theres so much $$ from bustin us weed smokers that, unless the govt took up hemp production/regulation and made $$$, that they even consider makin it available at Walgreens, etc
Will more dispensaries grow?, will more medicinal friendly staes appear? Will decriminalization happen? YES
I think it will be someday but not for a long time because our government is controlled by a bunch of close minded right wing idiots who know that 90% of voting america are church people who are against weed so they know if they campaign a certain way people will vote for them.....thats why bush was voted in twice because most of the people who vote are stupid....I mean do you really think that bush is a christian? or that he cares about religion? come on...innocent people are dying and hes got his hands in arms deals and in "liberating" iraq its all just a front a system for him and people like him to stay in control of this country and they will use and exploit the people of america as much as they can until people just wake up and say hey no more of this....ya know actually i take back the part about our leaders being idiots they know exactly what they are doing and its working....so i just think its going to be a long process but i do think eventually it will be legal....and even if its not people are going to smoke anyways....they always have :D
I think it will but it needs a state to state vote
u kno so u have a better chance of makin weed legal some where in the us :)
I've never done vaporized weed but I believe vaporizers are the quickest route to the full legalization of weed. If more research is conducted and the supposed purity rates hold up to closer scrutiny then with a safe and effective delivery mechanism we would have the legalization of medical marijuana, first for the severely ill and then the definition of acceptable illnesses and ailments would broaden. Many states would legalize it but for awhile none would legalize regular usage, but, akin to the present day weed movement, you would start seeing a few states just legalizing the whole thing. It's all a matter of baby steps down a slipper slope.
Lawmakers cite marijuana's lack of medical value and doctors cite marijuana's lack of purity. The only way out of the mess is to vaporize the problem out of existence.
Vote me in as president and it will be in about 2 minutes. I will shove it down thier throats. The first state to make it will increase revenue 1000 fold.
Just look at amsterdam. Drug use is down by making it legal. The people making big money on it being illegal will not let it be. If you think small peeps are holding back your wrong.
Take a vote to the people, not the law makers that fuck up our first amendment rights.
I'm here to tell you, you have no rights. none. Bottom line. Ask for my story or search it. We are in a Nazi state of things to protect the stupid shits.
Cops clean up the mess and fill thier pockets. They do not protect you.
Lets put some one in office that cares about your rights and we will see great change.
Not in the US. Too few pot smokers here take the initiative to vote.
loc's right on that one we have now rights and our (freedom the lil bit we have left)is being taken away lil by lil it don't matter who u put in office rep or dem
I predict cannabis will become legal in the US on April 20, 2068, after learning that Bill Clinton actually did inhale.
Eh, it was the same with the prohibition of alcohol a century ago. Eventually, people see through media propogation.
i think people are coming around, with studies like this Marijuana and Driving: A Review of the Scientific Evidence - NORML
and so many others, people are beginning to realise that MJ isnt as bad as people made it seem.
also with Cali, new mexico, rhode island, and Connecticut (passed but it was vetoed), and soon new york will be passing the medical marijuana (so the polls say)
eventually enough stated will support medical marijuana use and then its only a matter of time before recreational use is accepted (and even if its not) its pretty clear that states that allow medical marijuana are much more forgiving on recreational marijuana use.
just my 2 cents, feel free to correct me if i got some facts wrong :P
no i dont think it will be legal because other companies will loose their business esp. like drug testings and many others.. they will not allow that to happen.
i think it will be legalized but not for a long time. because if the government legalizes then they look stupid for spending billions of dollars fighting the war on drugs.
i say yes but not any time soon.
they wont have any more children to scare the shit out of with 30 year old research
One April 20th in the future, we'll just get a mass public broadcasting telling everyone to do something. It seems you can't change the world without half a million people rioting all over this fucked up country you can't help but love. Or when the god damn government realizes how much money they'll rake in with G-13 and hemp food products and materials, maybe they will make hemp vehicle bodies, bullet proof armor, and indestructible clothing. But that's a lot of pot, I think I'd smoke a lot less anyway, everyone probably would start smoking and it'll become more recreational, possibly less chronic smokers.
Of course weed will eventually be legalized! Things that are unacceptable to society eventually become accepted over time. A mere 100 yrs ago it was scandalous for a woman to be seen in a bathing suit that had more material in it than a modern day 3 piece suit. Alcohol was illegal once upon a time. Tobacco was also illegal. societies have a way of normalizing to the point of acceptance, previously unacceptable behaviour.
(i.e.homosexuality)disclaimer: This is just a generalized viewpoint, not a statement of what is right or wrong.
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The american government is so unforgiving for their pot laws, the only way is if a crazy revolution occured. America needs to relax about there pot laws, learn from Canada, where i strongly believe that within the next ten years marijuana will be legalized.
rent "escape to canada" and you can get a pretty detailed look into legal affairs on the matter, however there is some shit on gay marraige which kinda sucks...
I think it'll be legal someday. It's probably going to be quite some time, but we're getting there. At least a few states have relaxed their laws. It has to become legal. I mean there is no argument against it really. Its a "gateway drugs" and makes you lazy and eat a lot sometimes. Is that your argument against marijuana when people die everyday due to alcohol induced incidents. How many people die from smoking too much reefer?
Hell yes. I think it will be legal in 20 years tops. I would say 15 is more realistic and even 10 years is possible.
I believe this because marijuana is legal now in Alaska. You can posses an ounce on your property. However right now this is being contested in the courts because Alaska passed a law that recriminalized marijuana. The good news is that the Appeals court struck down the law and said you could posses an ounce. The case has been appealed to the Alaskan Supreme Court.
Also in 2006 Nevada voted on question 7. If passed this would have legalized marijuana use for any one 21 or older. Also it would have allowed cultivation, distribution, and sale of marijuana. The measure failed 44% to 56%. MPP plans to push a similar initiative thru in 2010 or 2012. I think it is extremely likely that it will pass.
Also in 2006 Colorado voted on Amendment 44 sponsored by SAFER. This would make adult possession of an ounce of cannabis legal. The measure got 41% of the vote.
Also the city of Denver will vote on a lowest priority measure in regards to MJ. I am not sure if it is in 2007 or 2008. Hopefully this measure will have an affect similar to that seen when a similar measure passed in Seattle. I am not sure who is sponsoring the initiative. I think it is NORML.
MPP is preparing an imitative in Massachusetts for 2008 that would decriminalize MJ. This is not just any decriminalization bill however. It promises to be the among the best in the country. The final text has not been approved but it is virtually guaranteed that it will make possession of an ounce or less a civil violation. This bill is comparable to Colorado and Maine's possession laws that are the best in the country excluding Alaska. The one bad thing about this bill is if it passes it would remove Nebraska out of the top 5! :D
There is also MPP sponsoring an initiative in Michigan which would make medical marijuana legal. It is scheduled for 2008. 5 cities in Michigan have passed symbolic medical MJ laws. They are Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor, Ferndale, and Traverse City.
MPP is also considering launching a medical MJ campaign in Arizona for 2008. This is sure to pass if it gets on the ballot.
Just today in Oregon an initiative was approved to be voted on that would allow dispensaries. If it passes this could give medical MJ the momentum it needs to get other states to set up dispensaries. This is important because it could really force Congress to do something about the DEA.
I am sure most of you have heard of some of many of these bills that could be passed within the next 2 years. However, I do not think many have seen a complete collection of the all the pro MJ bills in one post. The sheer quantity alone gives reason for us to be excited. Not only quantity but I believe that most of these bills listed will pass. I believe the movement has plenty of reasons to be optimistic for the legalization of marijuana in America.
great info there nebraskan. hell of a first post. welcome to the forums.
It will become legal when smokers (of whatever age) start presenting themselves in a more positive mature light...like the BC3, or Mason Tvert, or Norm Stamper, or Jack Herer, etc. do. If Marijuana is not respected as a spiritual force (I myself believe Marijuana is not a sacrament of God, but that it is God itself) and is misused in a mindless was as a club drug then it is no different than alcohol (minus the wicked hangover).
We have a great responsibility to all of the brethren and sistren who have been and continue to be persecuted, and imprisoned, and also to the breeders, and activists who keep the dream alive. We must work together in a professional way in order to make the plant's use a personal decision by law.
This will never happen if the nonsmoking public are bombarded with sadly true stereotypes of recreational smokers bingeing on booze, junk food, video games, and apathy. This is a special plant and if it is not taken seriously, it should not be taken at all...though, being imperfect as I am, I sometimes fall victim to couchlock and M*A*S*H reruns like anybody else.:hippy: So I do not exclude myself from my judgement, but there is more to Marijuana than its use as a television enhancement potion. For thousands of years, all great art and spirituality (and also a lot of bad art and spirituality) has been created in league with the green mistress we so discuss here. She will make herself legal when she is ready. (She's still in veg. mode). The days are getting shorter though, I can feel it.:dance:
Now that I have thought about it some more...I am really disappointed that the poll is 66% yes and 33% no. At least lie and say yes to make it look good for the Fuzz Hackers. A little optimism goes a long way. The anti pot camp must love seeing these numbers as they monitor us. They send their scout over the hill. He reports back, "Aye, Captain, those stoners don't even believe in themselves." I don't know why the scout is a pirate. He just is.
Throw your hands up...make it legal:clap:...get down now...:dance:it's your birthday! We have to put on a tough face! My car just got stolen today and I am happy as a clam because at least I have a chicken nugget as stinky as Miss you know-who's attic in my pocket! Much better than having a car and no foliage in my view. This is important. Buck up troops!
EVIL pharm companys will never allow our govt to allow weed to be legalised, because they cant monitor it. Our govt is too much involved with these companys.
Never is a very long time, my friend. Let's not throw in the towel just yet. It is not our duty to wait around for the government to legalize anything. WE HAVE TO TAKE WHAT WE WANT through our spending power.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy!
If nobody will buy what any given corporation is pushing, then they will stop selling what they are selling. Corporations are built to make money and if you do not give them your money, they will die. The pharms can only profit if patients buy the poisons they are pushing. When the people start using Marijuana as medicine on a grander scale, there will be good reason for the corporations to start selling pharmaceutical Marijuana ($$$$$$$), and they will have no problem getting it decriminalized. Then the general public can go to the drugstore for the shitty strains and the rest of us can live it up on the genetics that all of these great botanists are preserving for us around the world.
Growing your own medicine takes money away from the pharms. There is an herbal alternative to every chemical cure manufactured by these profiteers. USE THEM! If you need an aspirin, get some white willow bark instead. Buy herbal books, study, learn, tell as many people as you can: Do whatever you can as an individual to take money out of their pockets. Spread the word. Cut the megacorps to ribbons with your knowledge and your wallet!
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Not here in the US
In Denver, its already legal to have up to one oz. in possession. Hopefully soon, the rest of the nation will follow on.
This makes me think back 18 years, to '89. I was in Munich for "German Unity Day," when someone asked our tour guide if E and W Germany would ever reunite. Her answer: "perhaps, but not in my lifetime."
Remember that history is like an earthquake fault: no movement for long periods of time, as pressure builds up. Then some triggering event, and WHAM! A violent upheaval of the status quo.
One thing that encourages me is that the (federal) gov't is getting ever more strident about pot use. This typically is a reflexive response to seeing that one's position is getting ever less defensible. Case in point: leading up to the War Between the States, with abolitionist pressure, slavery went from "a necessary evil" to "a positive good."
The WOD is like communism, in a way. It's so noble a cause to True Beleivers that taking an honest look at costs and benefits is not only unnecessary, but an indication of a lack of committment to the cause. That's why no one in the mainstream says, "Gee, 7X the typical incarceration rate, and still drugs are available--perhaps we're on the wrong track?" Eventually, it will simply get SO bad that it'll be impossible to ignore such things, just as with communism.
What us stoners can do is a. keep smokin': open defiance of law ended Prohibition and the 55mph limit, b. get active: having strong beliefs and doing nothing about them is worse than having no beliefs at all.
This really doesn't mean all that much if "State's Rights" conservatives continue to repress the will of the people. IMHO, state governors aren't doing nearly enough to protect their citizens from "all enemies, foreign and domestic," and they ought to take direct action to attempt to protect and secure the freedom and property rights of their citizens from the federal gov't.Quote:
Also in 2006 Nevada voted on question 7. If passed this would have legalized marijuana use for any one 21 or older. Also it would have allowed cultivation, distribution, and sale of marijuana. The measure failed 44% to 56%. MPP plans to push a similar initiative thru in 2010 or 2012. I think it is extremely likely that it will pass.
I think it'll be legal in canada some time soon :)
Actually there's a lot of talk about Marijuana here in Canada lately.. Its not THAT LONG before talks turn into actions. Probally with a minor law change, but not completely legal. I dont think by any means growing weed in your home for personal use will become legal, but getting stopped with a few grams in your pocket nowadays just gets you a fine over here. Im hoping it will be legal here within the next 6 years. If not, Im out to Amsterdam..
I still have faith that someone in the govermant has some kind of since and wise up.
Personally i don't know if marijuana should OR would be legalized even tho I wish it was but it would surely have some consequences in todays and the future society. Now as we know it and in the past young children under the ages of 15 were able to get a pack of cigerattes even tho there is an age limit in getting cigerattes. Now smoking cannabis at a very young age is absolutely not healthy for the mental heath. Could you imagine how things could be fucked up for real? Even little kids at a young age are getting high even tho there brains are still in development..
There would be a lot of unhealthy mindsets in many individuals, even having a restriction wouldnt really work either.. just think about cigerattes and the age of some kids and when they first took a puff. Many young kids would be going to school high and not able to learn in school, development of mental problems in some people, there are many factors on why its illegal. Sure the government can tax it but so what? You have to think about the future on how people will be. Don't think about the present time just cause you like to smoke weed and get high. I do however believe it should be decriminalized.
If you smokers really want marijuana to be legal, why doesnt people start of by presenting yourself's in a professional matter and explain why it should be legal? Do you think going on youtube and dressing up in stupid ridiculously ugly looking outfits with a spliff in one hand talking like a junky is going to convince the government to legalize it? Do you think recording yourself with some friends smoking a spliff acting all cool is going to do anything? Obviously no, your giving them a valid reason to keep it illegal. Now Im going to filter out the dumbass potheads out there cause there giving the government a reason to keep it illegal but for those who are educated, smart and mature, those are the ones who should be making video clips on why it should be legal. Don't go in front of a camera and blow smoke in front of it. Be professional and present yourself in a positive matter. Drop the hippies shit... thats not going to cut it.
Think of it this way. If I was the government I would surely keep marijuana legal with a lot of restrictions.
- You can not smoke unless you are of the age of 21 or older
- Keep a record of how many times someone has been in a careless car accident under the influence of marijuana. If the records start to go sky rocketing high ban it for a couple of years.
- Have any child expelled from school with no chances if they are caught being high in class. Fuck the drug testing shit, that will cause them more money.
That's it. And if people were responsible with the use of cannabis then I dont see why it should remain illegal. The only thing I would be really concerned at the variety stores if they sell marijuana. They would really need to check up on ID's.
examples:
Unprofessional and setting a bad message
YouTube - Smoke weed?
YouTube - Smoke Weed Everyday (Part 1)
Professional
Something that I feel is professional BUT the things this person said didnt really make much sense
YouTube - Why Marijuana Should Be Legalized: An Expert's Perspective
YouTube - Dr. Phillip A. Denney on Medical Marijuana Part 3 of 3
I think it will be legalised soon, Wal-Mart sells HEMP lotion, :jointsmile: hemp is the root :jointsmile: my question, ' who gets the bud?
You can carry it on u in some States thats a start!
They don want anyone makin legal tender$$ they get pd'off if we sell :stoned:
especially to the children, {I dont sell it to anyone} I grow my own and I dont leave my home when stoned to the bone
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One can only" get so high on wd" thats where the kids come in at they want more high, and more high, then turn to harsh drugs
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bad drugs out there (( can change ones DNA!:( def not pot! }
We dont lock our doors cause the potheads r loose~~:jointsmile:
recently in this stupid litle town someone ordered 35 lbs through the snail mail, they got busted [someone[ratted on em].:mad:
"What brown can do for u was the underground joke"!:rastasmok
Lets all send a spliff to our Congressmen & Senators !!
think good thoughts!:thumbsup:
I believe we do cause some of the idiots making these videos, getting interviewed etc, a lot of them act really dumb. I wish I owned a camcorder, i'd surely record a proper video clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by silkyblue
And the reason why some stores sells lotion that has hemp in it is because the THC does not enter into the body....
dont they make hemp clothing?
thats legalization :rasta: if Ive ever seen it :jointsmile:
I think its in the process of upwardness but some say us Potheads havent fought" long and hard " [ MORE POT SMOKERS NEED TO COME OUT] for legalization since 1932, they first arrested a farmer for smokin its on the NORMAL weB site
I think MJ will be legal all over the world someday, like alcohol... I just think I won't be alive to see that (and I'm 22)
I think it will become legal. I believe in that history repeats itself, and just like prohibition (the ban of alcohol) was disbanded in the 20's, weed will become legal sooner or later. The reason I think it is taking so long is that back then senators knew and remembered how good alcohol was and what life was like when it was legal. Marijuana being legalized will be a much longer process because there were no senators around when marijuana actually was legal, but of course things like this take time and I do believe it will be legalized.
Luckily I live in the prime spot of BC so cops dont do shit
cops have way too much power!! In America!!
do other countrys drug test? I bet not! drug testing has innocent potheads by the throat!! Whats worse? no people for jobs ?? They claim to have!!
partnership for a drug free America!! yeah right!! BULLSUGAR!
How many Washington, DC parties with tax payer $$ are they havin now?, I know what they do I!!:pimp: them fockers [CONGRESS AND SENATORS] are partyin on the stinkin roofs!
legalize weed! + + stay out of our underwear!!
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