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YET AGAIN ,assumptions. PROVE the seedbank is lying, PROOVE I am lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoking habit
One thing is true though. You dont know shit, like u said.
I have provided concrete proof that it exists. You have provided nothing but guesses and idiocy. Now prove me and the seedbank wrong or shut up.
I have to agree with smoking habit's point re: seedbanks. He's absolutely right about recreating a purple haze wannabe being entirely possible.
I'm not going to come out and say, "such and such a seedbank is lying"; however, seedbanks are for-profit entities and are suspect in the way that dealers are. The drive to make a profit could forseeably cause a seedbank to release a product that is a sad copy of what it purports to be. We have to as growers be able to communicate with each other and give honest grow reports on new releases, which is the only way to really keep the vendors in line.
possible...yes
but yet AGAIN all i see is assumptions.
If you can't prove the seedbank wrong then they are correct.
Purple Haze is as real as any other strain. I have smoked it. I have seen it.
It was crap like most other purple strains. If i wanted seeds for a purple variety i would certainly not choose PurpleHaze, neither would anyone else ive ever talked to. So why would the name "purpleHaze" expect to make more money? If your knowledgable enough to be growing ur own weed you would never even consider buying PurpleHaze cos its shite! Its likely its the banks worst selling breed!! So why would they lie? What do they have to gain?
Because silly little kids think of "purple haze" as the best strain around.
It's SO obvious, from the amount of idiots making threads because they've got purple haze and it's great and its this and its that.
The name is associated with GREAT weed amoung younger smokers. THAT's why seedsbanks would lie about strain names.
It's the same as any other strain name.
Dealers make up names for their bud to jack up the price. Simple fucking as.
Leave it to the kids then. But the majority of kids dont buy seeds. They dont grow and if they do its usually bagseed. Their market must be very bloody small then.Quote:
Originally Posted by LIP
Hell, at least if they ARE lying the kids might end up with something a little better than the original.
I wouldn't class a good seedbank the same as a filthy lying street dealer.
They are innocent until proven guilty in my eyes.
I might start a new thread, " WhiteWiddow........, does it exist?"
Your too trusting... and that will be your biggest downfall. NEVER belive everything you read, hear and see without concrete proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidmark
They could be lying, they might not be.
Even chances, and with even chances, no ones innocent, EVERYONES guilty untill proven innocent.
If the innocent untill proven guilty thing was true why do they arrest people and lock them up before they get convicted of the crime? Because they are guilty untill proven innocent.
You dont work at the seedbanks, so you cant say they are lying, and you cant say they are not. You cant comment on it, no one can, so why bother?
WHY, would a shit strain like the real purple haze be kept when we ahve all these new super strains? The name may be used, but it's almost definatly not the real purple haze.
Whatever...Guilty till proven innocent......lol .....lmfao
Im quite happy to be trusting. After all if no one trusts each other then society dies.
I have to differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidmark
Perhaps you cannot prove them wrong because you are not working with all the information.
If you can't prove them wrong it doesn't mean anything else than that ..um.. you can't disprove their claims based on the info you have access to.
edit: stinky beat me to the punch.
You suck at debate. The burden of proof is not on us skeptics, but the seedbank who claims to have this strain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidmark
You're just like the religious folk who say that since we can't prove god doesn't exist then he must exist. That is completely backwards, and why we have the flying spaghetti monster and other things. They show that just because we cannot prove something doesn't exist, or is false, does not make it likely to be true.
I am willing to be convinced, but you can't just tell us that we have to believe that seedbank because they have no reason to lie. They have a reason to lie, and we have no reason to trust them since we do not know them.
You say that if we can't trust each other then society falls down... well guess what? In the world of online seedbanks there are shady bastards and we can't just trust them all. I have never heard of that seed bank or bought from them, so why should I trust them again? Please forgive me for not being naïve and trusting everyone, but I have been ripped off and I know that people lie for money.
-c :jointsmile:
OMG no, YOU beat me to the punch... I had almost this EXACT argument, right down to the FSM (lol I <3 FSM!) all written out and then deleted it thinking it would just make this thread too complicated... I was also going to put something in about the Teapot (look up FSM on wikipedia and it comes up as related).Quote:
Originally Posted by canuck grower
Let Him touch you with His Noodly Appendage!!!! :D
ha ha, that's awesome stinky! that pic is great too. Praises to our exalted Lord and Creator the Flying Spaghetti Monster! I have been touched by His Noodlyness and have seen the meatballs.
I was only skimming the thread till now as it was getting pretty lame. Couldn't keep quiet about that fallacy. I think the FSM may have just saved it though. That just proves he is omnipresent, and always spreading his love in the world.
:jointsmile:
(skidmark: You'd do well to read this: A List Of Fallacious Arguments (#burden of proof))
so...this article covers all sorts if not all means of common argumentQuote:
Originally Posted by canuck grower
whats your point, evryone is fallacious?
Poisoning The Wells:
discrediting the sources used by your opponent.
The weedfarmer site has some good info on growing, that's all I know of them. It is the fact that they quoted Hendrix in their description which makes me suspicious. It seems like a cash grab to me. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Put it this way.
I wouldnt trust my money with weedfarmer. Yeah, they've got great grow forums, but thats it.
I dont trust them on descriptions, the true strains, or they're shipping.
RE: Neg Rep given to me by the almighty Skidmark.
I have first hand experience with weedfarmer, i hate to say it, but you ARE wrong about them.
In your experience they may be good, but in mine, they are not so good. I wouldnt trust them with a peice of paper, let alone money.
Good job your attempt to give me neg rep backfired... ;)
what goes around comes around, you gave me neg rep for being trusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by LIP
"Like i said, it's your biggest downfall. Guilty untill proven innocent is how this world works."
That was your neg rep to me, only repaying the favour.
If u give me unfounded neg rep ill give it back.
Ill choose trust over paranoia anyday.
You are right about one thing though ....... I am almighty:p
The thing is, your rep is so bad, the neg you gave me was an even...
So it made no differnce what so ever!
So, it was a neg rep by me, returned by a even rep by you.
Cheers!
as the world turns.... sick em Lip. I think stinky and lip and myself are the only ones that relize this thread was a joke.
:D :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by the yeag
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Originally Posted by LIP
lol , ye im -22 thanx , not that it matters, im safe in the knowledge that i know better and you dont. I dont think you need me here,ill go to a more mature forum where people are not labled as liars without proof.
Ahhh, it's a shame your living in a world of ignorance. You know nothing my man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidmark
Anyway, as much fun as i'm having watching you post more and more poo, i must sleep.
i left him a wondeful rep message lip. sleep in peace i'll bash him for ya
Much love man!Quote:
Originally Posted by the yeag
I'd send you an oz of purple haze... if only! ROFL.
I want some Purple kush, that shit is nice.
OMG!
Is it over yet? Lip, how much would that oz of haze run for? lol
Stinky and Lip so much fun to watch. :D
Hmm, a double post.
I'm scared
It's nice to know that now us smartasses are organized enough to post in shifts!Quote:
Originally Posted by the yeag
Will do.
:D
What can we say, we rock lol. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
why are you all still going on about this.
just because you dont have it or dont know where to get it doesnt mean its not there.
purple haze does exist
i get it from very well known growers who have been growing marijuana for 30+ years.
here is a couple pictures i just took this morning.
i already posted a couple pictures before.
Is it good? Or is it shit? That'll settle it. If it's really good, it's NOT purple haze, if it's shit, we might be some of the way there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDank
The genetics are NOT going to change by themselves, if it's strong now, and it wasnt then, it's not the original purple haze.
it is definately not weak
it is not the most potent strain in the world, but i dont get how you can still say throughout the entire thread that it sucks or has bad genetics.
what you may have heard is wrong about purple haze and it being weak.
it is not as strong in my opinion as sour diesel or chemdawg but it is definately a good high.
until you grow it or have it consistently for a while dont post hearsay about something and then try your hardest to back it up when you actually dont know.
You need to stop trying. I dont want another arguement, but i will if i must.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDank
It's common knowledge in the 70's most strains were weak. Purple haze was no exception, it's was known for it's colour, that was the appeal.
Like i said, it IS common knowledge between the people who actually know what their talking about.
You might be smoking some very nice bud with purple genetics, but that's just the colour of plant material. It does not mean it's purple haze, and the way you described it im 99% sure it's not purple haze. It may be a "New improved" purple haze, but not the original.
purple haze is amazin an no thats not it in the pics
you are not entirely correct with that statementQuote:
Originally Posted by LIP
here is an exerpt from this page
Myth: Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past. Adults who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s fail to realize that when today's youth use marijuana they are using a much more dangerous drug.
Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC sample sized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects.
i have about 5 different strains with very strong purple genetics lip. i am not a fucking tool so dont play me for one. i at least am using solid experience with the strain you just go by something you assume or heard. i use facts you dont. im not trying to argue but i have it and i have always had it and where i get it has always had it for years.
my old ass uncles can verify this is all true as they themselves were growing at the time. (60's)
i dont understand people like you, yes that is purple haze i have always gotten it the same way from a very well known grower.Quote:
Originally Posted by twocamaros
There is a strain called Purple Haze. It is found pretty regularly in the medical marijuana clubs here in California. In that sense it does exist. It is also not just a case of somebody simply calling something purple haze because it's purple. The med clubs will often haze several purple strains available. Incidentally, it is not considered to be the best of the purps. That distinction goes to Purple Erkle or Granddaddy Purple, both of which are outrageously potent weed.
It's pretty much understood, however, that this new "purple haze" is not the original purple haze that was first available way back when. My personal feeling is that it's kind of a punk ass thing to name a new strain after an older strain that no longer exists, even if it is a big improvement. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist because it does. Someone pointed out that you can name your kid Jesus but that doesn't mean he's the messiah. True, but it doesn't mean a kid named Jesus doesn't exist. Know what I mean?
Despite of all this, I would agree that 90% of what is sold on the street as "Purple Haze" is not either the old or the new Purple Haze. It's just some random purple weed.
fOR THE LAST TIME THIS THREAD WAS A JOKE!!!!!!!...All I did was photoshop some bagseed sativa I grew out. I cannot believe a few assclowns actually thought I meant that it was purple haze. It is so easy to make bud turnout purple. just add certain nutes if your strain does not carry purple traits.
Granddaddy. . . mmmmmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by Way2many
That's monterey pop. LOL
:hippy:
Purple Haze wasnt a particually strong strain. Your "uncles" who grew it will tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDank
I give up, some people are too imature to reason with. Maybe when your a little older ;)
1) what proof is there that it isn't still around, and what proof is there that it is?
2) What proof is there that it was weak?
this all sound like hear-say/ word of mouth. . . . and dammit, who cares either way. Unless your growing it there is no reason you should say it is around.