Why God does not exist, in one sentence.

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Originally Posted by andruejaysin

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. The legends of some goat herders fail that standard.

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HAHAHAHA. cracked me the fuck up.

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Originally Posted by PdoubleOTY

Why not take a risk in life in believeing in something that has the potential of eternal rewards?

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im gona believe that when i take my ten thousandths shit in my life, that it will turn into a neverending pile of purple erkle, BECAUSE IT HAS POTENTIAL FOR ETERNAL REWARDS!!!

why I think so many people act so ignorantly and just blindly follow bullshit. We are told from day one... "IT'S GOOD FOLLOW THIS SHIT NIGGA, ITS RIGHT!" and we dont even really have time to decide for ourselves before our parents sign us up for choir and get us accustomed to church and shit so people just roll with it on the off chance that they get to go to heaven or some shit. I believe religion was created in order for the entrepreneurs of that time to gain power, and instill fear in their people in order to keep them in line, while they rose to power. making them not want to fuck up and face the music when they die.

GUYS LETS FOLLOW THIS REDICULOUS STORY BOOK BULLSHIT THAT YOU WOULD LAUGH AT AND SHIT ON IF IT WASNT SHOVED DOWN YOUR THROAT AS GOOD AND THE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO SINCE YOU WERE BORN..................

and why do creationists have musuems and shit now? and they want their shit taught in shchool! what the fuck? it annoys the fuck out of me that i cant stab every one of them.

MOTHER FUCKER WE WERE'NT AROUND WITH THE FUCKING DINOSAURS, DO YOU HAVE A FUCKING BRAIN? HOW CAN YOU FALL INTO THAT SHIT, JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW RETARDED YOU HAVE TO BE TO FOLLOW THAT SHIT MAKES ME VOMIT.

i saw this guy preaching in borat, the movie, and to the crowd hes like, WE DIDNT EVOLVE FROM NO DAMN MONKEY! I wanted to throw him into a lavapit and tell him yes we fucking did you ignorant fat blob of shit.

And he sais hes gona heal borat of something, and he puts his hand over his face, and borat starts going crazy and like seizuring and shit, and the guys like "THATS GOD" "HES HEALING YOU" and shit like that. ha i hope they saw that movie and realize how much of an ass they look like.

MOTHER FUCKING WOW, SOME IDIOTS.

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Originally Posted by Th3 sand m4n

god dosent exist because humans originally evolved from simple organic molecules containing carbon. Energy from the sun, lightning, and earth's heat triggered chemical reactions to produce small organic molecules from substances present in the atmosphere. These molecules were organized by chance into complex organic molecules such as proteins, carbohydrates, and nucleic acids that are essential to life.
And proof of this comes from a famous experiment. two American scientists, Stanley Miller and Harold Urey, carried out an experiment in which they attempted to simulate early earth conditions according to evolutionists. They mixed water vapor with ammonia, methane, and hydrogen gases. They then sent an electric current that simulated lightning through the mixture. Then they cooled the mixture of gases, producing a liquid that simulated rain. After a week, they collected the liquid in a flask and analyzed the chemicals therein. They found that three amino acids (amino acids constitute the basic elements of proteins, which are the building blocks of living cells) were synthesized.

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:thumbsup:
god does not exist because we have proved evolution.

God exists and the world is shit because we were given free will and a world to test it.

At least, religious texts would have you believe that is the way to reconcile the "because the world is shit" argument.

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Originally Posted by JunkYard

Oh, it exists...only it is not a literal place, imo. I think hell is the darkest places of the heart, where anger, hate, violence, bitterness, jealousy, and fear breed.

I think the opposite is true with heaven. :D


Much Love,

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I agree. I believe heaven is where we get to experience joy with God and hell is where we are stuck with only our own company, like the world without hope.

faith is just another word for assuming
i have faith that this message will be read and replied to, but it might not be and i cant prove that it will be but most likely it will be because this thread is a hot topic for discussion.
god doesnt exist becuase it has never been proven and i think that in the 6 thousand years the belief in this god has been in existance people would have found some irefutable, unarguable truth but they havent.
you cannot prove that something doesnt exist because it doesnt exist for you to disprove it.

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Originally Posted by Hempstone

God does exist. And, one day, "the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea."

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Awsome Hemp, Good to see ya man.

Ive gone to catholic school my entire life, ive read the bible front to back...

You who say he does exist probably have half the information i know.

God does not exist, put simply religions are "faith" something to look to when times are bad, Since the dawn of man we have jumped from one theory to the next, christianity has been around for 2006 years.... the world is billions of years old, so what the fuck took so long... maybe cause its made up.

yeah the big bang is my man.

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Originally Posted by JackdaWack

Ive gone to catholic school my entire life, ive read the bible front to back...

You who say he does exist probably have half the information i know.

God does not exist, put simply religions are "faith" something to look to when times are bad, Since the dawn of man we have jumped from one theory to the next, christianity has been around for 2006 years.... the world is billions of years old, so what the fuck took so long... maybe cause its made up.

yeah the big bang is my man.

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Could it be Catholicism your just pissed At?

Pass that Shit, The burden of proof is on You.You need to show proof to non believers that god does exist.

I could just as easily say Prove that A Giant blue Smurf does not exist.

Since you cannot disprove it.A Giant blue Smurf must Exist.

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Originally Posted by Immolation

Pass that Shit, The burden of proof is on You.You need to show proof to non believers that god does exist.

I could just as easily say Prove that A Giant blue Smurf does not exist.

Since you cannot disprove it.A Giant blue Smurf must Exist.

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im not saying god exists, far from it. im just adding onto where you started

something that does not exist cannot be disproven because it doesnt exist for you to disprove it

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Originally Posted by Immolation

Pass that Shit, The burden of proof is on You.You need to show proof to non believers that god does exist.

I could just as easily say Prove that A Giant blue Smurf does not exist.

Since you cannot disprove it.A Giant blue Smurf must Exist.

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Ok, so you put your faith in the Giant blue Smurf and I will put mine in God.
And I think you have it wrong. Since I have substance and evidence, it's you that has to prove it wrong.

I find it very interesting that The Lord did not perform sensational acts to draw attention to himself. He turned away from every opportunity. He performed some sensational acts to heal others, to feed, and times out of necessity. But never in the market place.

Everyone could have easily believed. He has no interest in our intellectual satisfaction, in fact He seems to go out of His way to offend our minds.
It is a heart relationship He desires. The kind of relationships we all really want. Not an intellectual knowledge only hook up, but of one of intimacy and heart.

Forget arguments of proof. One could be argued in then argued out. A relationship is a different level altogether.

Those not believing. . . have you really asked Him if He is real, to please reveal Himself to you.

Satan suggested for Him to throw Himself off the temple (before the crowd). So that ALL would see. He refused. . . I thank God. The example He would have set would have been one where we all (Christians) would have to jump through hoops to prove Him.

Those who Seek Me shall find Me.
Those really interested can inquire.
He will show up.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

Ok, so you put your faith in the Giant blue Smurf and I will put mine in God.

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Both are equally credible. Do you actually see the point behind the blue smurf anology? Anything and everything can be claimed without being able to disprove it, the simple existence of a claim doesn't mean anything.

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And I think you have it wrong. Since I have substance and evidence, it's you that has to prove it wrong.

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If you have substance an evidence, lets see it. A book and some people making a claim is NOT substance, or evidence. If you're going to claim that a being exists, and this being is not mesurable, observable, or repeatable, then yes the burden of proof still falls on the person making the claim that god DOES exist. It's the same thing if I make the claim that gravitation is guided by trillions of invisible pixies. Gravity is 100% consistent, the planets do indeed orbit in a consistent manner, and my pixie theory therefor fits perfectly with the result. But it's not up to you or anybody to prove me wrong, it's up to ME to prove my pixie theory right.
(and for the love of god don't say "well you go ahead and believe in your pixies....." figure out the logic in the anology for chists sake.... actually I do appreciate god for all the handy expression's he's given us.)

i like pixie sticks. once, in second grade i got a kid to snort one.

God does not exist because god was invented by man.

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Originally Posted by MastaChronic

i like pixie sticks. once, in second grade i got a kid to snort one.

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How was it for him?....lol

he got a nosebleed and a suspension. they thought it was coke.

I would recommend to all my fellow atheists the new book The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. It wittily and clearly explains why there is almost certainly no God. The basic premise is this:

It is illogical to posit an intelligence as the beginning of the universe, because intelligences are complex beings that require an explanation for how the complexity arose. Darwinian natural selection is the only process by which intelligence is known to arise, and the only one we can conceive of. However, this takes incredibly long timeframes to work, so intelligence can only appear late in the universe.

The creationists had it right all along: it is silly to think that complex things can just come out of nowhere by chance. That's why there is no God.

God does not exist.... until your spirit is ready for it. The kindest most loving giving, caring spirits or souls or people in history all had focused faith in a loving selfless "God". God is Love.

When our spirits are ready I believe we begin a journey to become part of what we all internally desire...Love. Even if it doesn't happen in this lifetime.

God is the spirit of peace, love and happiness. I see God and feel God all the time. God is everywhere. Unfortunately the Devil Babylon also exists and Babylon is the spirit of war and hate and sadness. Babylon is powerful and has a strong hold on Jah Earth at this time. But the spirit of Jah will eventually win out over the spirit of Babylon.

The herb you enjoy is a gift from Jah. Herb carries with it the spirit of God, the spirit of peace and love and happiness. It allows us to see the trickerations of evil, wicked Babylon because we're more connected to our loving, Godly spirit. Peace and Jah Bless.

"Love is my religion."

Ziggy Marley

"I pledged to work for righteousness. God's given me an inspiration. God is the boss, he tell you what to do.

"Devil make smoking illegal because Devil don't want people thinking one way. My friends feel the same as I when we smoke. We reach one another, you know? Dat's what Babylon afraid of, that people all think the same."

"The more man smoke herb, the more Babylon fall."

Bob Marley

Im not angry at anything, it just makes me upset to see how these "people" want the bible and others things put into perspective. Such as the teachings in sodemy, some villagers see outsider men venture into there city, The men go to a mans home and ask for a place to sleep, while the villagers follow, The villagers knock on this mans door who was gracious enough to let 2 men he didnt even knwo stay at his home. And the villagers say they want to have sex with these men.....WHat?? ok so the home owner says no! these men are guests in my house, you may take my 2 daughters and do what u want with them. Cmon fckin on now, we are tought so much different then this, your daughters? whom are supposed to practice chastity. Its all wrong, and we get messages like dont like same sex marrages be legal. this is Bush's reasons for making same sex marriages illegal...

there isnt even the point of having evidence.
seeing is not beliveing
However if we had an understanding of what the religion really stands for, maybe it would be something we could belive in. With corruption an every day thing now back when these bibles torah's and other books were written they were times of morbid corruption, its all bullshit, i get more understanding in non god belifes, such as the tao te ching, and buddhism.

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Originally Posted by Rasta jy

God is the spirit of peace, love and happiness. I see God and feel God all the time. God is everywhere. Unfortunately the Devil Babylon also exists and Babylon is the spirit of war and hate and sadness. Babylon is powerful and has a strong hold on Jah Earth at this time. But the spirit of Jah will eventually win out over the spirit of Babylon.

The herb you enjoy is a gift from Jah. Herb carries with it the spirit of God, the spirit of peace and love and happiness. It allows us to see the trickerations of evil, wicked Babylon because we're more connected to our loving, Godly spirit. Peace and Jah Bless.

"Love is my religion."

Ziggy Marley

"I pledged to work for righteousness. God's given me an inspiration. God is the boss, he tell you what to do.

"Devil make smoking illegal because Devil don't want people thinking one way. My friends feel the same as I when we smoke. We reach one another, you know? Dat's what Babylon afraid of, that people all think the same."

"The more man smoke herb, the more Babylon fall."

Bob Marley

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Im not bashing this, but honestly, you can percive evil and good on anything, and we want to belive in a god, becuase with out the belife there is no consequence in death. If there was no god, and u killed some one, and didnt get caught by authority then its like it never happend.

Religion is not something we need
Morals and values on the other hand, something completely over looked.
I know kids that are very religious, belive in god, and are bastards
I dont belive in god, but that doesnt mean i disregard the morals and values i hold.

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Originally Posted by Rasta jy

God is the spirit of peace, love and happiness. I see God and feel God all the time. God is everywhere. Unfortunately the Devil Babylon also exists and Babylon is the spirit of war and hate and sadness. Babylon is powerful and has a strong hold on Jah Earth at this time. But the spirit of Jah will eventually win out over the spirit of Babylon.

The herb you enjoy is a gift from Jah. Herb carries with it the spirit of God, the spirit of peace and love and happiness. It allows us to see the trickerations of evil, wicked Babylon because we're more connected to our loving, Godly spirit. Peace and Jah Bless.

"Love is my religion."

Ziggy Marley

"I pledged to work for righteousness. God's given me an inspiration. God is the boss, he tell you what to do.

"Devil make smoking illegal because Devil don't want people thinking one way. My friends feel the same as I when we smoke. We reach one another, you know? Dat's what Babylon afraid of, that people all think the same."

"The more man smoke herb, the more Babylon fall."

Bob Marley

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Did you read the interview hightimes did with Ziggy? I'm totaly with you on this one, God is Love...


Much Love,

god is in our own intellect

okay. so nobody has answerd the question yet. all i have seen (and sorry but i didn't read the whole thread) are peoples reasons they don't want to believe he exist. because of all the killing in his name, because your life sucks, because i would have bitch slapped him. the answers to why people don't want him to exist are endless. just a little observation here. if the person that believes whole heartedly in God (not the person who just goes to church or whatever every time the doors are open but the person who really believes in God) dies and they are wrond what have they lost? a minute or two out of each day to talk to someone who as i turned out didn't exist (but for most people i think the idea that there is a God is comforting and the fact that they can talk to him probably helps brighten their day) but lets say the person who dosn't believe dies and they are wrong, God isn't gonna be all like "yeah you pretty much fucked up and shit...wanna try that again?" nah pretty much if the non-believer is wrong they end up shit out of luck.

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Originally Posted by twentysac

okay. so nobody has answerd the question yet. all i have seen (and sorry but i didn't read the whole thread) are peoples reasons they don't want to believe he exist. because of all the killing in his name, because your life sucks, because i would have bitch slapped him. the answers to why people don't want him to exist are endless. just a little observation here. if the person that believes whole heartedly in God (not the person who just goes to church or whatever every time the doors are open but the person who really believes in God) dies and they are wrond what have they lost? a minute or two out of each day to talk to someone who as i turned out didn't exist (but for most people i think the idea that there is a God is comforting and the fact that they can talk to him probably helps brighten their day) but lets say the person who dosn't believe dies and they are wrong, God isn't gonna be all like "yeah you pretty much fucked up and shit...wanna try that again?" nah pretty much if the non-believer is wrong they end up shit out of luck.

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Yea that babbling almost made sence. God does not exist due to the fools that choose ego over the divine.

Honestly it just seems impossible for out of nowhere for everything to just be created out of nothing. We cannot even begin to describe or fathom God. Our minds are not even close to being able to wrapping our minds around it. Therefore us trying to prove or disprove God is just plain futile. Religion is something created by man, something that I believe is totally pointless. I don't believe God is a being that wants us to worship, and to humor and play along with in order to hopefully achieve the reward of eternal salvation at the end of our lives. As far as all the horrendous shit going on down here on Earth I don't think God wants to interfere, its something we have to do on our own. If we fuck it up, its our problem. One comforting thing is that if God really doesn't exist, the believers haven't really lost anything. If we die and there's nothing after the fact, we won't know it, quick and painless.

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Originally Posted by Inferius

God does not exist becuase god is an Idea, there is no proof of him yet and I doubt there ever will be.

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you say you are an actor in sombody else body, you are a living soul
that sombody made

I seem to look at this topic from a completely different prospective. I'm atheist; I don't in any form or another deny the existence of god. I am open minded and attain no religious beliefs.

What has got me sitting finely on the fence between all you people is I don't fall under any of your 'beliefs' in a sense in the existence of god, I sit completely happy and like you, have no evidence behind it.

I don't really want to get too off topic at all but for those whom are stuck in either faith or denial I'd strongly suggest you people reminiscing any paranormal experiences and basing your OWN 'experiences/knowledge' and try to understand more. Because who is to say what is out there, IS out there?

Before all you people die and jump to any conclusions (even against me about this), I'd suggest you and a few inquisitive people do the Ouija Board.

These things DO work... I'm not egotistic, i'm a Realist; I see for things as I feel towards them based on my knowledge of facts and won't form my opinion until it is 100% proven by these means.

I have never seen a ghost, nor seen anything paranormal, but I have however experienced the Ouija Board. Now, If you can explain why my friends drinking glass effortlessly lifted up off the mantle piece and soon after flew sideways into the wall with undeniable force as nothing out of the extraordinary - you are stupid... It debunks the laws of physics, it shows a different outlook towards what we know and what we claim as real.

All I can say is; if god is real... Out of the thousands of years and all the major claims their have been in the Bible and about God, there has been no form of ANY solid proof for really any of it. For those whom think we just 'die'; in which our existence is that of which we were before we were first born... That could in fact be true, I am not denying that either.

I don't fall under any souls traveling through realms category either... I'm just open minded, and I accept the fact I won't know until I do die, rather than not accepting the fact I won't know and rely on religion or some other 'belief'. And by the looks of this, you could say most people become religious for the fact they deny the fact of no existence.

In conclusion, I strongly believe we will never know till the day we in fact die and we all need to be less egotistical, and ever since my Ouija Board experience, it has opened up my views upon what we all infact do know in this world and that denial is another evil in this world that is making us all live in a blinded world.

If you want to find yourself, it's a journey of 'self' in my opinion... But don't expect anything, but then again.. If none of us do this, we will definitely never know.

Anyways I'm off to smoke a few more and watch Jacob's Ladder :smokin:

God does not exsist because.....
*stares blankely into clouds*
I dunno...I cant finish the sentence...

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Originally Posted by MastaChronic

god does not exist because if he did, i would have already bitch slapped him.

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God does not exist because our brains just arent capable of it. (I would have bitch slap it too)

God DOES exist, cause just like Jesus, this thread is back from the dead. :thumbsup:

See there's a big difference between you guys claiming that there is no proof, and not believing in the testimony that was left of many different men. It's not that we don't have proof, cause there is more than we need. Since alot of different men have left their testimonies of the LORD, the burden is on you to prove them wrong. You guys are calling all the men (and women) who saw Jesus being put to death and then seen him after he resurrected, liars. What proof do you have that they are lying? So it comes down to the believers sharing what happened to them and the accusers having no proof against them. I've heard the lame counter argument many times. Men wrote the bible to put fear in our hearts right? Then why does the gospel bring joy instead of fear?
You guys have it all wrong. Jesus is the TRUTH.

As I mentioned, with FAITH comes substance and evidence. If you're asking where's my faith? It's in my heart. :hippy:

I often think of this and the other day in the shower in the morning getting ready for work I was again contemplating it again.

I usually come to this:
Why ask, does god exist?
Instead of:
How and why does the Universe exist?

More importantly:
The creation of it.

Undoubtly there must be a creator.

How can there be no end to the Universe?

If the universe is as massive and never ending as it seems then god is going to have to look real close to notice us. ; )

Human words are not enough to describe the incredible amazing Universe, "a gift" to us as I believe, that we live in.:)

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Originally Posted by dutch.lover

God does not exist because if he did, he would never allow all this killing in his name to continue.

God does not exist because his 'rules' make many good people unhappy (depending on the religion: unallowing divorce, gay marriage, birth control, premarital sex, etc... not to mention persecuting people of other religions eg. pagans back in the day).:mad:

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Yes i like this one...btw at the pagan thingy im wiccan right so that makes me wonder about christians :P

its just one of those all encompassing mind f's. it not the only one though.
as a scientist we have no firm definition for LIFE. we only have several descriptions of the behavior that living things exhibit and if something exhibits enough of these behaviors it may be considered living. eg, growth, reproduction, energy utilization, etc.

God is a human concept, used to make sure people stay in line with assumed social values (no sex before marriage, not getting drunk, etc etc etc). We invented god, not the other way around. What the people who still encourage others to believe in this creature fail to realize is that we don't need a god to be moral.

Who's the better person?
The one who doesn't hurt others because he's good in nature, or
the one who doesn't hurt others because he's afraid of god ?

Who's the moral guy ?
The one who agrees that a murderer who has killed 50 people has the right to be in heaven if a priest forgives his sins, while you should go to hell even if you were a nice person all your life, and your only "sin" was not believing ?

What kind of treacherous god is this ? If he wants people to believe in him, why not just show up ? If he's a benevolent god, why not just create us without the power to do evil ?

Choices, you say ? But if he's an all-knowing being, then he already knows everything you've done, are doing, and will do. So much for free will.

Saying it in one sentence is impossible, there are far too many angles to cover.

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Originally Posted by OpJ

Undoubtly there must be a creator.

How can there be no end to the Universe?

If the universe is as massive and never ending as it seems then god is going to have to look real close to notice us. ; )

Human words are not enough to describe the incredible amazing Universe, "a gift" to us as I believe, that we live in.:)

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What makes you think the universe was made for us ?
Mediocrity principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What makes you think the universe will not end ?
Ultimate fate of the universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If there is a creator, then who created the creator ? and the creator of the creator ? ad infinitum.

You can't answer that, can you ? No one can. Then, if it's totally unprovable, why do you insist in adding a god to the beginning of it all ? You're simply creating a bigger problem than the one you've started with.

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Originally Posted by darth stoner

God is a human concept, used to make sure people stay in line with assumed social values (no sex before marriage, not getting drunk, etc etc etc). We invented god, not the other way around. What the people who still encourage others to believe in this creature fail to realize is that we don't need a god to be moral.

Who's the better person?
The one who doesn't hurt others because he's good in nature, or
the one who doesn't hurt others because he's afraid of god ?

Who's the moral guy ?
The one who agrees that a murderer who has killed 50 people has the right to be in heaven if a priest forgives his sins, while you should go to hell even if you were a nice person all your life, and your only "sin" was not believing ?

What kind of treacherous god is this ? If he wants people to believe in him, why not just show up ? If he's a benevolent god, why not just create us without the power to do evil ?

Choices, you say ? But if he's an all-knowing being, then he already knows everything you've done, are doing, and will do. So much for free will.

Saying it in one sentence is impossible, there are far too many angles to cover.

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Why does everyone feel that they are more righteous than God?
I didn't hear you answer any of the questions at hand?
What proof do you have against all those that have left their testimony of the LORD? What proof do you have against Jesus' word?
If you have none, why do you accuse them of lying?

Viva PORTUGAL!!!

@Pass That Shit

Why don't you believe in the tooth fairy ? Can you disprove her ? Is the fact that you cannot disprove the tooth fairy a good reason to believe ?

Viva portugal indeed :)

Well I personally believe in scientology. What proof do you have that the evil Lord Xenu didn't enslave several alien races? What proof have you against the fact that he threw them into a volcano, then trapped their souls with soul catchers? What proof do you have that those souls weren't then brainwashed and put into the bodies of early humans? And what proof have you that Elron Hubert isn't the reincarnation of Buddha?