If you have taken these clones from a female, then ALL of them will be female thats the great thing about cloning. Unless you stress them to the point of turning into a guy.Quote:
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If you have taken these clones from a female, then ALL of them will be female thats the great thing about cloning. Unless you stress them to the point of turning into a guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by brookerosebud
hi jeff, those 8 are from seed. i took clones the day i put them into flower. when i see signs of sex, i will destroy the males, and the clones from the males (except maybe one for seed cultivation)
so we'll see.
thanks for input bear, i'll get some of that too.
love, brooke
dear bear, i will put a few of the recovering clones under the light as to your advice, however, a few still look pretty bad, so i'll leave them in shade another day or so. new clones are doing great. 4 outdoor clones are growing by leaps and bounds now. tallest of those is 7 inches. seed plants are doing a little bit of stretching; do you think this might be because of the change in spectrum? i've read in several threads that when switched from mh to hps, the plants stretched a few inches.
out door plant got an undeserved flushing today. it rained like the great flood of the holy bible! when i got home, she was almost drooped to the ground from water weight. its the dark cycle now, though, so i won't be able to check for damage until tomorrow.
still haven't been to the store, so no new products yet.
ne way, hope to hear from you guys soon!
love, brooke
Hey young lady. Yes, plants do tend to stretch a little more when under HPS spectrum lights. Just keep a close eye on those recovering clones.
Hope you don't run into any mold on the out door project.
So, on to another topic, what kind of music do you play? Can I hear this anywhere? It would be nice. I love music like you wouldn't believe.
Adieu
Hey Bear.. : )
A room I just visited had pollen issues.. The guy (from www.rollitup.org)told me that he sprayed the room down with Hydrogen Peroxide.
FYI - That stuff (H2o2) will STAIN things..
My other suggestion would be a 10% bleach/water mixture and wipe the room down..
Of course, this may not be neccessary... but I would be extreme myself and wipe the room down... not worth the risk... : )
BROOKE - I want to talk about a winter in Key West...
Where the fuck did Jeff show up from ? LOL
iloveyou
Key West? GK your my hero, I could never figure out how to be that settle with the women. LOL Brook, you should take him up on his offer, then you can get all of his secrets and share them with me. LOL
You guys are the best, love U's
Adieu
burnt clones are still kicking, three have yellow tips on the leaves now. i was told by ex bf "when the tips turn yalla, yer good. they got them roots."
does yellow tips mean the clones have rooted? i gess it would make sense as the starter soil i'm using has very mild amounts of root toner and starter ferts.
plants in the flower box are stretching a little, but nothing too dramatic.
took two of these and put them about eight inches from the light (close as i could with the other four in the way) as per your request bear. i'll see how they are after work this evening.
still misting like crazy.
new 8 clones look realy good, got a little bit of wilting going on, but nothing like the first 8. 4 outdoor clones are shootin up like weeds.
outdoor girl is ok. a little dirty in one spot but no ral damage. she'll prob bounce back full force today. i had to tie up one of her branches that sagged too low with the rain.
to the knowm;
you want to spend a winter with lil ol me? how sweet!
unfortunately, i would have to decline; my brother has emphysema and lives with me full time so i can try to help/take care of him. of course, he won't have me waiting on him and does all kinds of things that are detremental to his health, but the temps and humidity in fl is the reason we aren't there now.
but, i think it would be a romantic winter adventure!
thanx guys, gotta go to town, be back in a little while.
love, brooke
LOL you guys are funny... Although I did not mean to insinuate that we go to Key West together.. I would be more than willing to accomodate you as a travel companion : ) Can you play frisbee?
I figured that since you live in NC you may have been to Key West. I want to go there for a month or more this winter and frolic on the beach...
Brooke, when are you going to post pictues of your ladies.. You really need to show us your CREW.. : ) ..
Maybe your "gay stoner friend" can take his eyes off you for a moment and snap a pic of the plants.. LOL
iloveyou
what's the best way to germinate seads?
to austin first, i'll give you my technique, i have had an excellent success rate, but other go a slightly different route, so if you don't like my way, try another.
first, place 2 paper towels on a plate, and wet them down. place seeds on towels about 1 1/2 inch apart, cover with one paper towel. drain excess moisture.
put plate on top of your refridgerator, wait 24 hours and check, as the towels dry the seeds will pop. if towels dry completly, moisten again, wait 24 hours etc.
once seeds have popped, take tweezers, grab the seed by the husk (don't you crack that shell yet!!!) and place into soil with root tip facing down. seed husk should be flush with the top of the soil.
in 2 days, you should notice the shell sticking out of the soil on a little stem. take tweezers, GENTLY, GENTLY, GENTLY crack the husk if needed and pull of the seed shell. now your plant is germed and started.
get back to me and let me know how this works for you austin, any more posers i'll be glad to answer if i can. if not, seek out bluebear and garden knowm, my mentors and instructors.
to the knowm, key west is awesome (as long as you don't mind the public, lol) don't remember to much about my trip there though. most of my floridian memories lie in venice;) lots and lots and lots of frisbee. and many other things too.
to knowm and bear, i got some green light super bloom and green light rootbuilder.
when should i use root builder? one week after clones have rooted? two weeks?
when should i use the super bloom? wait until flowers show, or fert them now? this one is important, plants get watered tonite, so i need to know as soon as possible. otherwise i'll just water and wait 4 more days.
burnt clones are doing well now, they've gotten their colour back.
new clones are just so perdy!
4 rooted clones are like the governator of california, ah-nold. pahmped ahhp!
have to check on out door girl, i got home after dark.
well, see ya later!
love, brooke
just read my last post. geez. i have GOT to get more of that stuff.
as for pics, my camera.... is dead. i killed it. the frickin thing wouldn't work. i couldn't get any info out of it even after hours of chinese torture. so.
i.
killed it.
ne way my sweet gk, since key west is out... how bout alaska?
hey guys, let me know about my new chems. k?
love, brooke
Yes I can do Alaska also.. .. but we should wait for summer.. right?
I saw this picture on the web and I thought you would appreciate it.. AND I know BEAR is smiling....:D :D
Venice? Venice FLORIDA?
iloveyou
That pic is too funny... Thanks for the thread all. I like threads with lots of info like this one. I even found out Florida is not the place for people with respiratory issues. :0)
Take care all -Jay
lunchtime at the zoo!! and yeah, gk, venice flo.
so, how bout them ferts? going to use superbloom on outdoor at half strength this morning.
what about the root builder? wil this help the burnt clones? or kill them?
well, gotta go to work, guys
see ya later
love, brooke
ps, friend gave me a gram of i don't know what last night.
damn!
good stuff!
Hey Brook, was off line almost all day yesterday so I couldn't get back to you. Alaska? That is my neck of the woods, so feel free to venture the last frontier just bring some papers and dress warm, that go's for you too GK. Maybe we could get a couple rooms at the ski resort or get a cabin out yonder with a couple snow machines, rumm, rumm, vroom, vroom!! If in the summer, we could still do the cabin, maybe on a lake with Jet skis or just some good old fashion fishing and toking.
Well on the root bottle, what kind of application does it recommend? Off the top I would say start using at about 10 days in small doses and see how they respond, if they show no negative signs above ground they are probably doing just fine under the soil. With the super bloom, if you are at least 7 to 10 days into flower I would hit them with it. Until you are familiar with the product, I would start off in small doses. What kind of soil mix do you use? I cut my soil with about 50 % perlite so I can water almost every other day, my plants seem to like the frequent watering and the aeration. My pots are at a moisture level of a 1 or 2 out of 8 when I water, but if cut with vermiculite I could probably go 3 or 4 days without watering, augh just rambling now.
Talk too you 2's later. Brook you never said what kind of music you play. Also, sorry to hear about your bro, hope he is doing all right now and can keep kicking for many years to come. My grandpa has it as well.
Adieu
going from back to front, hi bear!
my brother is ok, he's as hard as his own head, lol. we just have to take care of him so he WILL be around for years to come. (he doesn't like it though, especially when i won't let him do things he wants to do, or let him outside in the humidity) damn hard head!
as for music, i play all sorts, but mostly, well i don't really know. new age? i only play my own originals, so i gess it doesn't really fall under a category. hmmmm. immagine sarah mclaughlin and evanessance, mix that up with some g+r, ac-dc, led for the head and other classic artists, and you'll be pretty close. like new age classic rock with a soft side.
for soil, i experimented. half of seed plants are in miracle grow soil, the others are grown in bacto. i hate bacto. after 4 weeks, its like a brick, and it won't dry out. it is alway wet, which makes it hard to know when they need water. the miracle grow stuff work great, drys out fast, but has time released fertilizer in it. so you never know if it still has ferts in it when switching to flower. i used super bloom this morning on out door girl at half strength, and wow! i didn't know they could grow that fast! all nodes that did not have buds this morning have got em' now! and the ones that were there (swear to god) are twice the size they were this morning, from popcorn to a thumb!
the root stuff i'll have to get back to you on. the bottle is out in the car and i am being so extremely lazy right now it's redicculous! i know that its made for transplants.
and as for alaska, i realy, realy, REALY want to go there, my brother has, he has pics that are so incredible.... its just not fair.
however, we have talked about going some time next summer. it'd be great to have someone local show us around. and i LOVE fishing (skiing too, but my skis have only ever been on water, lol (it doesn't snow/freeze here too often))
ne way, if it works out, it works out. i know i'd love it (look, a cute little teddy! "grawr!!!") sightseeing mother natures landscape paintings is at the very top of my hobby list.
thanx for the input bear, i'll have more details for you in a little while. prob about 8 or 9 to nite.
where are you today, gk?
love, brooke
its a girl! its a girl! one is deff a female! 5 others show signs of female, but its still too soon to tell. going to hit with super bloom tonite.
out door is a friggin bush! brought her in for the last time today. going to use cfl's from now on, she's too big to take in and out n e more without damaging her beautiful fruit.
put one of four out door clones in flower box today, 8 inches, 9 nodes.
other three i'm considering scrog. all three, one screen, veg for about 2 weeks.
clones from blueberry 1,2,7,8 (burnt clones) were put under veg light today as a last chance effort. still yellowish, but out of eight, i think four will live. (2 from #1, 0 from #2, 1 from #7, and 1 from #8.
clones from 3,4,5, and 6 are a pretty green, but one is starting to bend over. others look fine. 2 clones from each plant.
later i'll post a detailed report of each individual blueberry plant from seed (training, nute schedule, and current description.
1, 2, 3, show little nubs that i believe to be female flowers.
4 hasn't showed any.
5 has deffinate female flowers up and down the plant.
6 hasn't showed.
7 has same nubs as 1, 2, 3
8 shows none.
going to hit with a light mixed drink (super bloom) tonite.
its gettin excitin' now, boys!!!
love, brooke
Hello...
HOW CAN YOU NOT SHOW US A PICTURE..
"freaging bush" I wanna see this beauty!!!
iloveyou
set your brother free : )
oh, oh, my dear gk,
i soooo want to show you pics of all of our babies. (yep thats right, you and blue are the daddies! my knights in shining armour) especially outdoor. this one had a rough time, started about 9 months ago. after coming near death several times due to temps, bug and spider mite infestations, and wierd forces of nature, we put her out side as a last effort and kinda forgot about her for two or three weeks (beginning of the blueberry gro). now, this plant that looked so ugly and sick (it was actually growing across the floor instead of verticle) is showing me things i did not think possible. first i tied branches to stretch it out and hold it up, when we first put it outside. now the strings have been cut and the plant fills a cubic meter!
yeh, i wish i had some pics too! if nothing else, after harvest, i'll put aside a few grams to trade for a cam, or sell them so i can buy one.
sorry, but that kinda the way the cookie crumbles, ya know?
maybe i can find a polaroid or something.
ne way, where is blue bear today?
oh, and i have 2 stupid questions and reasons for asking them;
1) why is it that people say miracle gro is bad? i've always used miracle gro, at least for veg, and i have excellent results. 4 week old plants look like 8 week old plants kind of thing. used 24 8 16 for vegging these blueberrys. i was using 15 30 15 for out door, until i got the superbloom. i know that some types of mg have extra additives in them. i do not use these; i get the kind that can be used on vegetables.
2) why is ABSOLUTE darkness necessary? out in nature, almost no plant gets absolute darkness. there's the moon, the stars, reflection off the atmospere. and the other reason i ask, is that out door girl has been outside almost every night until now (except for the cold ones) and when the sun goes down, an hps night light comes on about 30 feet from her. shes growing like hell though. so what with total darkness?
sorry for asking these q's, but if i knew the anwer, i wouldn't ask.
n e way...
talk to you guys tomorrow!
~love, brooke~
Hi Brooke,
Darkenss initiates the flowering due to the presence of a hormone that breaks down when subject to light (you probably know that). After 12 hours darkness the level of the hormone is enough to tell the plant to flower.
"Absolute" darkness is not necessary - I guess people say that just to make sure - frequent bright light interruption during flower can cause hermies if the plant has started flowering, or prevent flowering starting if it's not already doing so.
What is important is that there is enough darkenss on enough of the plant for 12 hours to ensure the level of this hormone is high enough. You can actually flower individual branches on a plant if you want to by just making sure that those branches are kept dark for 12 hours.
Once flowering has started low levels of light, or short exposure of bright light (less than a couple of mins) will be tolerated in my experience.
WIth regard to the moon, don't forget it's only full for a few days a month, so it won't have any real affect on flowering in the wild. Wavelength of light is also important for the breakdown of the hormone - you can shine green light ok on your plants during the dark period. Stars are way too dim - like Brad Pitt, Madonna etc.
MG is cool, I used to use it until I found some super cheap stuff. Lets face it if you spend shitloads of cash on the 'best' nutes, your gonna want to feel good about it so you disrespect those that ain't expensive. N-P-K is N-P-K, it just cames in more fancy bottles I guess. The stuff I use now is £5 ($10) a kilo, has all the micro nutrients and lasts for ages.
Ta Ta for now, -MP.
out door girl is now an indoor girl, not sure on time left, gotta check the log. i'd have to say like 2 maybe 3 weeks to harvest. put 6 cfls in her new room today.
she is isolated, in the basement, so no chances of contamination to the bb's.
thanx emmpey, i kinda was thinking along those lines. lol on badd pritt. (i hate that fucker)
see yall tonite,
love, brooke
Hi Brooke..
The biggest prblem with MG is their soil.. Reason being is this.. It usually has a PH of 4.5 - 5.5.. this makes it very difficult for ganja plants to get(absorb) the proper nutrients.. even when you water with 7.0 water...
Although, it is very possible to have a succesful grow using MG soil..it requires dumb luck or water PH adjustments to 8.0...
The MG nutrients on the other hand are fine...
iloveyou
Good morning little princess. Your Night is reporting for duty, LOL. Well, sounds like you are doing ok, and your questions are getting answered in an orderly fashon.
I do not prefer MG because I like to have more control over my soil than it will allow and those time release fertalisers kind of have a mind of their own, alot of the elaments are released according to tempetures and not according to the needs of the plant, so climate has more control than me and that's not what I want. The MG is bassed on the Spring, summer and fall temps and when growing in doors we arn't running our temps in the same way. Don't trip though, my pa and law uses it religiously and pulls off a QP a plant and that is with a 400w MH the whole grow.
You may see that out door gal start to really kick into production now that she is on a controled light cycle.
Well, hope all is well today. You have any of your music to listen to online? I didn't forget.
Adieu
to knowm, you just solved a true mystery for me. i was using the mg soil about half and hafl with two plants, and about 3/4 mg soil and 1/4 bacto, and the ones in 3/4 mg were the best growing, most beautiful. however, my water ph is around 7.5 to 7.8, which the plants have liked even more than when watered with 6.5 ph water. i gess that solves it then. true case of beginner's dumb luck, lol.
as for my teddy bear, (lol)
i have flushed lightly and regularly because of the time released ferts. they are pretty much dissolved away now. i've learned to be able to see their needs. hard to explain, but when one looks sad, i give it nutes and it perks right back up. when one looks tired, i water, when one looks sick, no water or ferts for at least a day (prob analysis period).
out door is becoming a truly amazing spectacle. tonite, i'll count the buds, but i'd gess about 70 to 100, and yes, this is ONE plant we're talking about. and she LOVE'S super bloom!
i'll give you guys an update tonite on the blueberrys.
as for my music, sadly no, there are none of my tracks on the world wide web. i don't have the money for the equipment i need to record, balance, mix, or upload. but they will be someday, "hey, hey, I wanna be a Rock Star"nickleback
well thanx for the responses, boys. i hope some of you will be online later tonite.
love, brooke
hey, can n e 1 show me a pic of male preflowers? i think there is one with balls in the flowerbox, so i'd like to find out asap. i've done a search, but i need to see undeveloped male flowers. thanx
love, brooke
ok, found a half way decent pic (it still sucked) of male preflower. i know what male flowers look like, i just wanted a confirmation on the balls. i did find a good written description, and one of my bb's fits the profile (clusters at the nodes instead of one bulb).
all the rest are either not showing, or have one little ball on each node from bottom to the top of the plant.
one with clusters has the clusters at the top 3 nodes of the plant.
i'll check back in 1 hour, and if there are no responses, this one is goin to the hogs (here piggy, piggy, piggy!)
i hope you guys are online right now, but if not, thats ok.
all clones survived and are vegging now. thank you gk and bluebear. i couldn't have done it without you.
no more females (confirmed females, anyway) to report yet. but the one has even more pistils tonite.
gotta go, my bro is talking to me and i cant do two conversations at once.
love, brooke
I am around here little lady. I would say that it fits the description of a mail, and would bag it before you have any problems. Remember I just lost 6 girls to polanation, but have 15 almost ready to go under the 1K, so wish me luck.
You know that we have extreamly low humitity here in Alaska in the winter, wonder how it would work out for your bro.
I'll check back here before I get off tonight.
Adieu
ok, i changed my mind. i would very much like to harvest some pollen (without contaminating my females) and use it on my next gro to harvest some seeds. when do i harvest the flowers, and how do i store them? how long can you store pollen?
is there any way to only pollenate one bud?
finally, will this plant survive if i put it outside? it has been on a reverse light cycle, so it would get an innitial 24 hours of light.
since it is a male there is no harm in stressing him, is there? heh, i get to torture a man!~breaks out the whips and chains~
well, good night bear, GK
love, brooke
wow, i was typing while you posted bear. i'll wait for your response.
love, ~little princess~
lol
You could throw it out side, or you could set up a small area for it with 1 CFL on it. You can pollinate just one part of your plant. Once you have some pollen , which you could simply store in a zip lock in the fridge, you can take a paint brush and pollinate the part of the female plant, 1 flower site, or a whole branch. Some will cover that pollinated branch with a bag, or plastic rap for a few days so not to pollinate any neighboring branches.
I will look into the best time to take pollen and will try to find out how long you can store poline. It is for a fairly long time, but I want to give you a more informed answer. GK will know right off the top, so I will check back and see if he nails it.
Adieu Little Princess, or should I say Cannabis Queen? LOL
1 cfl? he's quite a hunk, about 2 1/2 feet tall and 2 feet wide. i am so very greatful that the heavens have blessed me with such a caring and protective guardian. thank you, my valiant knight in shining armour.~curtsy~
g'nite bear, see you in the morning,
love, brooke
Oh, your so charming. Remind me to send you a dozen roses for the holiday season. Takes off his hat and makes a sweeping bow as he kisses her hand.
Yes, I think that 1 CFL will do, but of coarse 2 will be better. At this point you are just looking for the sacks to rypen and it doesn't take a lot for that to happen.
Well good night, and sweet dreams.
Adieu
~yawn~ mornin guys.
i've got the male in a sepparate room under 1 lamp. do i still have to go 12 12 or will it continue to flower under 24/7, and how long will it take for them (the male flowers) to ripen?
love, brooke
I would keep it under 12-12 and it should be ready in about 2 weeks give or take a few days IMO.
Have a good day.
Adieu
umm...
i kinda don't have the abillity to keep this one on 12-12, and it has so far had about 36 hours of light. will it flower anyway?
love, brooke
Some will still burst their sacks under 18-6 or 24, so just keep watching, it just may take a little longer.
Adieu
thanx bear, rigth now he's just got small balls.
love brooke
ps, what happened to gk?
hi grookerosebud, enjoying your thread. Just starting a grow and the info here is great.
sorry, meant brookerosebud. Can't type today!
:stoned:
hi hemlock, what r u growing? for how long?
love, brooke
where's my cavalry? bear, gk? is there n e body out there???
love, brooke