So who actually benifits form this decision?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobBong
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So who actually benifits form this decision?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobBong
Meth is fine.
People are stupid and do Meth to often and screw up their lifes.
Bottom line... it can't get any simpler then that.
You amaze me with your irresponsibility to others, including those younger and even more misguided than you, on this site. You really astonish me with your lack of common decency and humanity in the way you argue for the sake of arguing and being right instead of actually looking at the messages you may be sending or reinforcing. Shame on you for doing that. Please go away and start your own psychotropics site. Go do that as quickly as possible. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocaCola
meth actually is not fine. meth actually consumes several thousand lifes, several millions if not billions of dollars. meth addicts behave like a paranoid schizophrenic. meth is very addictive and very abundant. fuck meth and everything about it.
on another note i just took some mescaline and i'm feeling nautious. could we pls keep the discussion of drugs which are not addictive open? many pot-smokers have tripped, and i don't think there's anything wrong with discussing trip reports since drugs you trip off of are not addictive per se, no are they harmful in any physical sense.. just suggesting you might reform the policy.
so let me ask you, are you gonna start banning people who discuss other drugs?
How about you guys act like men and tell us why you're realling taking it down.
I've merged the two boards concerning this issue together.. as i'm sure people wouldn't want to have their already stated opinions lost when the section is closed...
besides.. some of you make some.. valid points in both of these boards
right on..u should make a new forum to replace it tho? just an idea
Personally, I don't like Meth either... but I'm not gonna spread bullshit around for a bunch of idiots that got hooked on ingesting chemicals all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
My message is very fucking clear, you use Meth... more then once... and you're already an idiot.
So please spare me the bullshit... NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO USE METH NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE. SO FOR FUCK SAKES STOP USING IT THEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RISK GETTING HOOKED!!1 WHAT IS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU LOAD OF RETARDED PEOPLE?!
God... yeah... don't blame yourself!1 BLAME THE DRUG. THE SUBSTANCE... WITHOUT A CONSCIOUS... WITHOUT MORALS AND RESPONSIBLITY... YEAH, THAT'S THE THING TO BLAME!
Yeah, I love Meth, misconcieve me because I'm telling it as it is.
Fuck I hate this planet... man makes drug... (Even if fucking God makes the drug) man abuses it... always... But NNOOOO it's the drugs fault.
FUCKING DIE RETARDS... BEFORE YOU RUN THIS PLANET INTO THE GROUND.
Please BAN Coca-Cola NOW, PERMANENTLY ... (17 years old, too .. ) a year from now, while he's sitting in a dark room, with the shades pulled, his skinny, rotten toothed, scabby arms, he still won't understand whats wrong with his precious meth rat poison ... I have watched too many of my friends rot away from that shit ... tweekers should be shot on sight, spare them their misery ... :mad:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68266
I posted my feelings on this.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
thank you, Psycho ... I've never requested a ban before, and hope not to again, but he was just way out of line, ... this current "Spring Cleaning" is justified, and can only improve our Forum, in my mind ... :thumbsup:
Thank you, ImageReaper, for the direct request, and you, our dear Psycho4Bud, for such a good deed. That removal was good riddance of bad rubbish.
damn that sucks. the psychoactive forum is one of the main reasons I joined this site.
I would suspect a Google search will turn up whatever info or forums you are looking for ... :smokin:
I can see why there doin it wether or not i agree with it i dunno but i have no say in this
ppl neeed to chill tho coca cola man chill out, its just the net. if this WHOLE site closes ull still be breating after it all
aint no matter of life and death so just go with the flow.
That's fucking bullshit though I think he made it totally clear that he doesn't use meth.Quote:
Please BAN Coca-Cola NOW, PERMANENTLY ... (17 years old, too .. ) a year from now, while he's sitting in a dark room, with the shades pulled, his skinny, rotten toothed, scabby arms, he still won't understand whats wrong with his precious meth rat poison ... I have watched too many of my friends rot away from that shit ... tweekers should be shot on sight, spare them their misery ...
Yup I am pretty sure he was just trying to make a point. A damned good point in my eyes but I suppose the deaf, blind and dumb don't always hear, see or percieve things correctly.Quote:
God... yeah... don't blame yourself!1 BLAME THE DRUG. THE SUBSTANCE... WITHOUT A CONSCIOUS... WITHOUT MORALS AND RESPONSIBLITY... YEAH, THAT'S THE THING TO BLAME!
Damn right it is addictive and abundant...illegal too. Several millions of our dollars going to fight the war on meth, pulling the Sudafed off the shelves and for what? As if law or enforcement is going to stop people from using even methamphetamine. Nope. It just complicates things. Now you've got the meth being produced clandestinely. Some of it is remarkably high purity while the rest is loaded with cuts and intermediates from inadequate purification and incomplete synthesis. Furthermore it is sold by and used to fund criminal organizations. Remember now that the addicts are also criminals and by getting help many fear they will be turning themselves in.Quote:
meth actually consumes several thousand lifes, several millions if not billions of dollars. meth addicts behave like a paranoid schizophrenic. meth is very addictive and very abundant.
Shutting down other psychotropics will not help legalize cannabis or do anything to stop this notion people have about cannabis being a gateway drug. As far as I know not everybody in the country is rushing on to Cannabis.COM to form or reassess their opinions about marijuana users or marijuana laws.
Be sure not to allow any posts about nicotine or alcohol while you're at it. We wouldn't want people thinking that we're all cigarette smoking drunks.
Nothing we can ever do will stop anyone from using substances we know are lethal. People with the authority to lock them all up in tiny rooms for years on end can't even do that. I am no fool that believes I will be able to succeed where billions of dollars have failed, simply by believing that cannabis.com isn't for meth. Who really does? Who do you think has the intelligence level low enough to believe that geting rid of the forum will cure the problem?
But, I do have find myself in agreement with one thing;
This is cannabis.com
I don't think that getting rid of the psych forum is going to cure the problems of addictive drugs. Who honestly does? Its not about that. Its about the URL being cannabis.com. When I come here, I am not interested in how to dose heroin or how to best break up my coke so I get real high. I'm here for the plant.
I find that the psychotropics forum could possibly lump me in with cough syrup abusers and coke addicts, just because I post on the same forum network as those people that are using that forum to make it look like these things are wonder drugs. For this reason, and none other, I find myself unable to oppose its deletion.
Nicotine? Alcohol? other psychotropics? There are URLs for that. I type in www.cannabis.com for a reason.
I think I totally agree with Null, and probably with Coca-Cola to, since I also read his point as being slightly different. I'm not defending the mode he choose to present that, but, whatever.
Of course, the main point of this thread is not Coca-Cola, but rather the psychotropics section. And BobBong, for all that you're being sympathetic and giving us a place to air grievances and ask questions, do you have any answers? (that goes for any mod).
It seems like there's this motion to try and make cannabis.com mainstream. But cannabis itself is and has always been slightly separated from the mainstream, if only by its lack of public acknowledgement. That being said, just about all of the current members of these boards are, to say the least, slightly separated from the 'mainstream'.
I just hope the new owners aren't ignoring the existing community in the hopes of spreading the word... so to speak.
Damn it Stellar, stop strawman-ing the whole damn argument. What's the percentage of threads in Psychotropics that deal with breaking up crack rocks or with injecting heroin?
I see the same sorts of threads through-out the boards. Maybe I'd have more faith in the decision if I had evidence that the mods were actually stepping up against that sort of thing, but it seems that this is just a decision to eliminate the area where those kinds of threads might most logically be posted (as if that deters any stoned poster), and as a result also do away with some of the more intelligent conversation threads on this site.
We all know that the majority of the 'wonderdrug' posts are concerning cannabis. It will make you stronger, faster, better than you were before, it will cure or stop cancer, it will decrease your reaction time and make your orgasms more earthshattering.
Whatever man...
i just dont wanna see cannabis.com change...i liked it the way it was when i first found this page and it hasnt really changed much since then and i dont think it should
Then as CocaCola was saying why not get rid of sexuality and spirituality forums also? After all this is Cannabis.com, sexuality and spirituality have their own URLs. I find that the sexuality forum may lump me in with people who try to suck themselves off or are interested in what hand I use to wank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stellar
That is sarcasm of course because I don't really fucking care if that is what some people are into talking about. If I don't like the topic I wont read the thread. My cursor even allows me to do this cool trick; when I am browsing a forum I just hold it (the cursor) over the thread title for a second and a little box whispers the first sentence or two of the post. I then use my prior knowledge and higher order thinking skills to cognize the matter of the thread and finally adjudicate whether I would like to investigate it further.
Good points! By the way....which one was spiritual??? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
Seriously though, thinking about it.....none of these matters would cause an overdose...at least I hope not! LOL...and please don't refer to the Rod Stewart rumor. LOL
Not trying to make light of this.......you had very valid points!! Some of that stuff is really over the edge.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Offtopic but:Quote:
Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist
Hopefully we don't start up with this crap here. I'm sooo sick of these diaper wearing politcally correct idiots.
There is a BIG difference between being critical of a minority, and being racist. People poke fun at minorities all the time, but poke fun at the wrong group and you labeled a racist. If I said pollocks are dumb, would I be considered a racist? No. But if I said black love chicken and watermelon, half of you would say I'm a racist.
I hope the moderators see through that line of idiocy. It's not being racist. It's a stigma of the particular minority. I'm irish, I don't get offended when people ask if I drink alot. Nor do I consider them a racist.
It's finally starting to settledown though, in society that is. People like Mencia (mind of mencia, hilarious show) are knocking down those barriers.
i only been on here for a lil bit but the psychoactive forums were a great source to find out any information about psychoactives. already missing it.
I know what your saying but on the other hand...Mencia is hispanic, when Andrew Dice Clay did the same act people went nuts on him. What may not offend one person does offend someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relic2279
Lets leave it at this....if ya got nothing good to say...keep it to yourself. Just to save alot of grief.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Nullific
Nullific, I understand what you are saying, It makes good sense, However, we all have a primary interest which brings us together, sure theres stupidity in both forums. Personally, to be able to go to one or more of the subforums is one of my biggest pleasures. Though many of the participants may radically disagree, we still enjoy a common bond.
In spiritual, I have developed a fondness for breukelen advocate and mrdeviate, though I am a christian.
Look, trying to preach on this forum is not what I am interested in, nor what this forum is about, but, I have made friends with people, that in some cases
radically disagre, but, I am the better for it. I would not have found them elsewhere. Trust me, I have not had an interest in going to "religious" forums.
Also ~ Personally, (my view) I feel that discussions regarding Coke and heroin, should absolutely, be forbidden. I lost a very, very close friend to suicide from a dopemine deficient induced depression, due to his coke habit.
To say that, after I got off the phone with his mother, that I wept like a baby, would be very accurate.
Thank you for your time.
SMACK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dextromethorphan
I'll make it blunt -
by the looks of it 45% of your websites traffic will be lost due to no PsychoActives Area,
but hey, when someone wont advertise your website due to the Psychoactives area you gatta do what you gatta do to make more money, because.. hey, after all its just a website.
Sorry I've only starting using cannabis again after an 8 yr time away..so Im not as privy to the current state of this debate. Is there going to be discussion of other psychoactives permitted?
I have my own views but i dont wish to get involved at this point. I think any intelligent person would have to concede that there are positive effects AND negative effects of discussion. At this point Im just wondering if there is any definative outcome of this issue, in one sentance.."is this thread definately being closed"?
I'm just wondering,
Fingers
bump
That's great...but nobody is threatening to close the spirituality forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by braddog10
Cocaine and heroin discussions are minor topics in the Other Psychotropics forum and closing it wont prevent anybody from using cocaine or heroin anyways. Personally, I feel that such incidents and consequences of cocaine abuse are exacerbated by poor education, current drug policy and an ignorant public in general.Quote:
Also ~ Personally, (my view) I feel that discussions regarding Coke and heroin, should absolutely, be forbidden. I lost a very, very close friend to suicide from a dopemine deficient induced depression, due to his coke habit.
Close the Pyschotropics Forum, I can't stop you. But I'll fight for my drugs until they go and I follow.
i knew there was some type of catch or reason why this site suddenly changed ownership after ron had held it up for so long... now i understand it all... the new owner(s) bought (i assume they bought it, or maybe it's a friend of ron's i dunno) it so that they could make it much more 'society acceptable' am i right? i think they're goal is ultimately, to lead to the wide acceptance of marijuana, by society. which is admirable, but it makes me wonder, how much more is going, how much more is going to change, and how much more censored this site is about to become...Quote:
Originally Posted by BobBong
Fuck Them, maybe we should boycott cannabis.com and employ hackers to wreak havoc with them
i doubt boycotting is going to work, hell, if they really are doing what i'm thinking they're doing, and they're going to take it as far as they can, you may wind up seeing a cannabis.com commercial, much as you always see those 'truth' commericals...
Look, cannabis is illegal. So obviously the approach has to be education and encouraging people to make up their own minds rather than just accept what they're told. I don't understand why making a push for "responsible use" of cannabis eliminates the possibility of "responsible use" of other drugs. Which isn't to say that all drugs can be used responsibly, but come on, an entire section doesn't need to be eliminated because of a couple coke heads. Just delete the coke threads.
what "stuff" was really over the edge and how? not bein a dic*, just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
are we worried about an overdose of illegal drugs, or 5 belladonna berrie OD? are we worried about age here or the age requirement is more like guiedlines?
are we going to get banned if we talk about other psychoactives?
what really burns me is we can hear about girls getting trained, people stealing drugs of all sorts, people getting hit in the eye with an ejaculation (not illegal, but cannabis/semen in eye? how are they related?) psychtropics forum needed better moderation, rather than closing shop.
my point is, "if i give one person a piece of candy, i have to give everyone a piece of candy." i smell someone else eating candy, but i dont have my piece...
i agree. There's a big difference between a drug user and a drug addict. In moderation, any drug can and will be fun, its up to the person, whether or not they want to be responsible, and i don't think it should decide whether or not an entire section should be closed..Quote:
Originally Posted by Polymirize
Did you actually read my post and see what I was referring to? What's over the edge? Threads like this: "try to suck themselves off" or are interested in "what hand I use to wank." You have to agree with me on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaKeNvAp
As for the banning issue, NOTHING has been stated regarding that. The only thing that was stated/and done is we lost a forum. Nothing more or less.
I don't make the rules; I, like the other mods, just have to follow the guidelines like everyone else. Hell, you name it and I've probably done it so who am I to say if someone should or shouldn't talk about it. I agree fully that we all need to accept the fact that it is our own fault if we take to much...or something to often. Been there, done that........I didn't blame the cola...the cola blamed me.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
I seriously cant believe the amount of ban's that have been put in place....should I think three or four times over what I have typed encase I get banned as well?
I hope this site withers and fades in time??you??re losing your fan base, what the hell are you doing? Obviously the site with carry on due to the members who either suck ass in an attempt to be liked to escape from their own bleak reality and you will have the other half that just don??t give a flying fuck about the direction of the site.
Are you selling after being warned? Are you looking for a hook-up after being warned? Are you ripping someone a new ass for no just reason just because you think that's your right? If not, don't worry about it. The ones that are banned did exacty that!Quote:
Originally Posted by WeedLovingVeteran
Have a good one!:thumbsup: