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found in the air..Could'ves, would'ves and mites, .
TheMeadows:
Don't worry about the eggs. If you keep your strip(s) in your grow area for a couple weeks you should have nothing to worry about. As soon as the eggs hatch, the bastards die. If not, you might want to try adding another strip or two (more toxins per area). Mine never made it more than half way out of the eggs. If they die right away, they can't breed. No more eggs, no more problem, unless of course you let more in somehow. Don't do that.
Everyone:
Thanks for the thanks, and you are all very welcome. Glad I can help.
Here's a pic of some bugs Im thinking are spider mites ??? Iv had no bug probs appart from fruit flies, which disapeared after a few days of doing nothing.. If anyone can identify these little things id be greatly appreciated. They don't seem to eat the plants, but the last thing I want is shitty little bug buds...
I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure those are aphids. I don't think they are really much of a pest. I kinda remember something about these being good bugs??????Quote:
Originally Posted by konquest
Those are aphids. Defintiley not spidermites.
Hey KON... OPIE is one of very very few people to get rid of spidermites. He is the BUG KILLING expert in my opinion. USE the pest strips and say... good bye to your bugs.. send them to their next incarnation..
iloveyou
OOOPS, but aphids are ot GOOD bugs.. nless you think it is good to eat plants.. i guess he is not an expert at bugs.. just killing them.. LOL
iloveyou
i swear by 'em. been using them for a cpl of yrs now. r
yea kill those bastards fast!!!! They clone themselfs and can multiply by the thousands every day and they are fucken hell to get rid of.. I have thrown every freaken chemical treatment including pest strips at them and lost.. untill.. local spiders (the big eight legged kind) found them all on their own, spun webs around my grow area and went to town.. ate the fuck out of the aphids and in a week or two after the spiders showed up no more aphids.. NONE.. but now there are spiders all over my house.. and I hate spiders but for now they are welcome houseguests.
Isn't that typical of how man has been trying to control nature for years? You bring in a bird to eat flies, but now you have a bird problem. You bring in big bats to eat the birds, but now you have a bat problem, and a fly problem from the rotting bird flesh.
I won't knock pest strips if they work, are cheap and readily available, but for those who would rather go the natural route dig this.
I had an ongoing spider mite infestation for years. Every time I thought I had it taken care of, they would reappear. I tried spider mite predators but that was too costly and simply didnā??t work for me. Then the safe soaps did a number on them but still didnā??t wipe them all out. Next up for trial was a product called ā??Patrolā? (Beauveria bassiana) this is a fungus you spray on your plants and when it comes in contact with the bugā??s body it grows spores inside them, and eats them from the inside out. After a week each infected bug dies and their body becomes a little puff ball of death, releasing spores when any fellow spider mite crosses its path. This highly contagious fungus program worked great but when I went back for the second bottle they were out. It was then that the grow store salesman directed me to what has become my final solution.
Neem Seed Oil.
Not only did it quickly wipe out all the bugs, I understand it breaks down fast too, making late spraying possible. To make it even better I read that it ā??Disruptsā? the bugsā?? life cycle making re-infestation less likely. Must be why I still donā??t see anything months later even without reapplication. This product is natural, relatively cheap, and even wiped out a nasty armored scale infestation I had on some household plants.
If you can get a hold of this stuff I would give it serious consideration above and beyond chemical options. There is however a weird smell, but not all together too unpleasant. Some may even like it.
Happy bug killing! :)
Opie Yutts, YOU ARE THE BOMB.
AFTER READING THIS THREAD, I PUT A STRIP IN EACH OF MY ROOMS.
AFTER 2 WEEKS, I SEE ABSO-FUCKING-LUTLY NOTHING MOVING ON THE PLANTS.
I SEE HALF HATCHED EGGS. ALSO NON HATCHED EGGS. AND DEAD MITES.
AFTER 2 WEEKS, I TAKE THE STRIPS OUT.
THEY ONLY COST $5.95 AT HOME DEPOT.
SAVED ME HOURS OF WORK AND I NOW HAVE ALL MY HAIR. ( I QUIT PULLING IT OUT).
THNX FOR THE INFO.
Okay.... All my lady bigs are dead for the year....so....
So here are a couple of questions I have not seen covered in this thread.
1. How close to harvest would you do this? (or not do this)
I am likely 3-6 weeks from harvest.
2. Do you need to rinse or wash the plant/bud or anything in the room after use?
3. How do you get the eggs off so you can smoke?
4. If you enter the room after putting it out... should you shower and or remove and clean clothing?
Thanks
OPPIE YUTTS,,, WHERE ARE YOU??
HOPE ALL IS WELL.
WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON THE NO PEST STRIP ORDEAL.
Ok I started this thread and have read all that was said and I finaly got rid of those bastards for good I hope because I haven't seen a single one through this harvest and almost finished with it. Here's how I got rid of the som-bitches. I bombed with Pyrethrum first and then 4 days later bombed again so I would get the new hatchlings. Then I sprayed Kelthane 2 days later which I think is the key to get rid of them. The no-pest strips did not work for me and maybe because the room is to big. I had 3 in my room for 6 months and they still multiplied. I pulled all mothers and started with new ones because they were loaded also. I tried the bombs before and slowed them down but when I added the Kelthane to it they all went away. All was done when I was in 1st week of bloom.
Being the cheap skate I am, I assure you that I have tried every home remedy, ever pestaside, (short of nukeing) and I end up with only two words for you..PREDATOR MITES!
Yeah, they are a little costly but nothing compairs to the results. I have seen a garden heavly infected with si
spider mites, you know , the leaves are brightly poka dotted with the yello bite marks, well I have seen predator mites complety turn around the health of the garden. :dance:
And, if your sadistic enough, watching the predators chase, capture, and distroy (eat) the spiders, can be very entertaing through the use of a maganifing glass
hi guys ,i am a newbe to the site from the uk,and after reading your responses to these pest strips i have done my best to find them here in the uk,only to have come up with nothing.if someone could post me a link to were i can purchase some,i would be very greatfull as im in week 5 of 12/12 scrogging cheese under a 600w hps,and as you can emagine trying to spray the entire underside of my leaves with spidermite control or spray safe is litrelly impossible.thankyou all and may i add what a great site you have ,leeuk
Great thread, I am interested to see more opinions. I read everything... I am kind of sold on those pest strips, however I just put a buncha lady bugs in my room, will the pest strips kill the lady bugs? Have to assume so.
The weed gods gave us HID lighting and "AVID"--------only thing I've ever tried------worked great-----one application. The toxin for these critters is absorbed into the plant tissue and stays awhile------so DON"T apply after flowering.
Small bottles were sold at african violets.com-----didn't check for site.
Alaric
Thanks, I've wondered where you can get that, because no real stores around here will sell it without a bunch of hoops to jump through, and even then, probably not. If I had an infestation so bad that the strips would not kill the mites, and that would have to be pretty bad, I would try Avid, if I could get it. I have no doubt this works well. I may also consider bombing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaric
I would agree that your ladybugs are in deep trouble ... but, I swear by the No-Pest Strips, been using them for 30 years, NEVER had an insect around my plants ... and, no adverse health affects, either, (I'd bet all three of my testicles on that) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by razzapiggy
My remedy for spider mites is sand and vodka :yippee:
they get drunk on the vodka, get into a rock fight and stone each other to death ::S2:
That is funny. I can just see the little bastards throwing bits of sand at each other.
OK, maybe you should read this. About half way down I go into some detail about spider mites. It may answer some questions in this thread. There are pictures and links.
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...r-mites-3.html
Other than pesticides, there is really only one thing that works well, and that is preditor mites. They are expensive. Use at least double the recommended dose. And by "works well", I mean for good. The "no more applications needed" kind of "works well". Anything else may work, but as far as I know, not for good.
Real simple:
In order of preference, with most prefered at the top.
unsafe and effective:
- No Pest strips
- Avid
- Perithium boms
safe and effective:
- preditor mites
- other preditors
ALL ELSE SHALL FAIL TO COMPLETELY RID YOUR GROW OF MITES IN ONE TRY AND FOR GOOD!
Good Lord, looking back I can't believe all the hours I wasted fiddling around with neem oil. The first couple of times I was so dissapointed after a few days of the treatment. I thought they were gone from the neem oil, but it only brought them back more resistant to neem oil, and madder than hell at me. They all banded together and were determined to really screw me over even more this time.
I used a product called smc it is a concentrate mix with water and spray mine are doing just fine, they are checked daily at several places all I can find are the dead.
For your learning pleasure:
Advanced - Pests and Disease control
Spider mites
What does a spidermite web look like?
Spider Mites And Their Control
The weed gods gave us AVID--------follow directions and DO NOT spray on during flowering. Kills them ALL dead because the chemicals are absorbed into the plant tissue. Best bug killer I've ever tried.
http://www.hortchemicals.com/products.asp?pn=069
Alaric
does any body know what the uk version of the "no pest strip" is? we get fly papers, but i dont think they have toxins in them,the flys just stick and die.cant seem to get the chemicals you americans can.could any one supply an american web address that would mail to england please? thanks.
Sorry rastaman, can't help you there. I would imagine there has got to be a place. Start asking around your home and garden centers, or perhaps farm stores. Otherwise I suggest that it would be worth it to order some from accross the ocean.
I was curious. I found this:
These guys ship worldwide, including UK
Polsteins Home & Beyond @ Amazon.com: No pest strip
I've been using this "Zero Tolerance" stuff from Ed that has seemed to help me with some small patches of powdery mildew. It smells like a strong mixture of concentrated cinnamon and rosemary. Not that bad of a smell really.
Ed Rosenthal's Zero Tolerance Natural Garden Solutions
I later found a few spider mites and it seems to knock them back pretty well also. The most important part IMO is to use something organic/natural as possible. After all you will be ingesting it eventually.
lmfao nice one and where do u get those strips??i have sum yellow sticky pads i got from the dro shop but it says on them use for whiteflys bugs spiders so im guessing they work for the mites to or are the strips u have diffrent>?? i have no mites or bugs on my indoor stuff but iv'e noticed outsideQuote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
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i have sum pepper,carrots,watermelon plants growing and the watermelon vines i noticed yesterday on the leafs were webbed up on sum and lil black seed looking things in a cluster and the leafs around them were brown im guessing it a bug/mite of sum sort i did'nt see any bugs but i mixed sum neem oil and dawn soap with water like it said on the bottle and sprayed them all down so i hope it helps i know soap water kills grub worms maybe it helps with other bugs/mites as well im guessing that mites/bugs only like certin plants??as my pepper and other plants are untouched??
Greetings fellows.I live in Greece and I m a victim of spider mites as well.I had no idea those little mofos exist before I experiment with plants on my own.
My beautiful little Lowryder Babies have just sprout the little female indication hair under their leaves.However one warm morning i seen on them some tiny black monsters on it.I didn't notice that little white dots on the leaves earlier damn it.Anyway I got a ready to use medication for my plants with pyrethrum and butoxide piperonyl and some m.g.k. inside but after a lot of reading it's not yet clear to me (as I m new into this)
1)What's the spraying frequency arrangement I should use?
2)Should I do it when lights go out or not?
3)I once drown a whole nest of ants because they ate my radish I assure you i m gonna bake those spider mites :gunfighter2:.They not gonna get stoned on my plant i tell you
4)How long has it been since you relaxed with a spliff at your backyard under the starlit sky feeling noon's breeze with a laptop posting to cannabis dot com?
Thank you.
Have to ask.... I am nearing the end of my bloom cycle and I just noticed the mites. I know where they came from and there are not that many. I seem to be sold on this no pest strip. My air is contained pretty well so I think it should work well for me. If anyone can tell me a reason not to do this tonight please do.
I've heard that the "no pest strips" are very effective. I do however, question the contamination factor to the plants. I would not want to use them during the bloom cycle.
I just harvested a week early last weekend because of some spider mites. I got really lucky, because I found a bunch of unhatched eggs that would have probably taken over the crop had I waited. I went over every millimeter (with a magnifying glass) of the buds to make sure there were none inside. Found only a few, but the mites for the most part tend to stay on the leaves. (in my experience)
No pest strips are not the same as the yellow sticky pads, which will do nothing except help prevent them from coming in, assuming you know where that is. And as I mentioned many times before, the strips are not safe. That is why they work so well. Do not use during the last 2 or 3 weeks of flowering.
opie, you are a funny mofo. just got a few mites from going to my buddies house to watch his shit when he was gone.bad idea.anyway...strips away!
Thanks, I try. Sometimes.
Sorry to hear about your infestation. Get on it quick. They spread sooo fast. In one of my posts I mention burning your clothes and bathing in neem oil or hydrochloric acid before coming into your house after visiting an infested house. I was not kidding.
Please let us know how the strips worked out for you. Just remember to use as little ventilation as possible for the 4 or 5 days or so that you will need to break the growth cycle. You don't have to turn it completely off, just down if possible and off at night. I don't know your ventilation needs, but it would even be worth it to use less light for a few days if you have huge fans for the heat from the lights or something.
The strips did not work for me at all. I am going to give it another 24 hours and then i am going to spray.