blah blah blah blah blah. I'm american. I'm glad to be. blah blah blah blah blah. 'nuff said
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blah blah blah blah blah. I'm american. I'm glad to be. blah blah blah blah blah. 'nuff said
If there was a "god" this land would have long since shared the fate of "sodom and gomorrah" and the many others "god" has destroyed
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Behind=standard of living and to a lessor extent the ability to help others, space program, reseach and development and any other area where America exceeds (one example- China is 5000 years old, there's
"two China's" the modern coast with cities etc. and the other is the interior where tens, if not, hundreds of millions currently live w/o running water and flashing toilets!!! what's taking them so long?)
Giving money to protect the environment and buying books for poor kids are low priorities in your opinion?
Are Ghostoker and Oneironaut the same person?
WHY are so many people trying to come to the U.S.A?
When England(and every other country) ruled the world they thought the same as Americans do today.
SO what do you guys think of India where there's hungry people and all those cows? Do you think their belief that cows are more important the feeding childern are "behind" modern thinking? their standard of living suffers because cows come first.
While its true the world produces enough food to feed the world the real problem is transportion, and in some cases warlords who steal food to pay their solders.
I never said America is perfect we have our faults, but if people where given a chance to live in any country, many would choose the USA.
Didn't we save Europe(and the world) twice in the last 100 years? WWI and WWII...........
Time to pack a bowl.......
One thing we all have in common is the freedom to express our opinions...if we were in China or Cuba(and others) there would be a knock on the door.........
China's almost the next superpower. Give it a century. Don't you read Time? Or do you just not believe it because it does not conform to your theories?
Being "behind" is a relative term. To the people living in the Middle East, the people in America could be behind, and that can be considered both true or not true. I mean, here in America, we value freedom, whereas they value a much more religious life.
They see us as Pagans, and are they wrong? Look at how much smut is online. We have so much porn spewing out of America, and you know where it comes from? The San Fernando Valley, where I live. Is porn wrong? I don't think it is, but they sure do. Does that mean they're wrong? Who's to say?
What's wierd is how you can trace an arc from every superpower that has existed, technically starting with Ur, to the United States, and guess what? China's next. That last paragraph really had nothing to do with this thread, but it's an interesting thing to think about, isn't it?
Are not most terms "relative"? I think when most of us write the terms we apply has a reference to "Western Civilization". Surly I would agree that many in the middlel east(and others) believe they have it better than everyone else, but I am not from the middle east. Which is good as my grandmother was half Jewish.
Never knew about the porn thing, do you know why most of it comes from San Fernando Valley? It is a sad fact that porn is the internets biggest money making venture.
What to you mean by "arc"
and Yes I read Time, its a great mag. and if you read what I have written many are questions and NOT statements. I never said "GOD loves America more" I ASKED if "GOD loves America more?" there's a difference. If there's is a GOD I don't think St. Michael checks passports at the "Pearly Gates" because if he does would all the illegal Mexcans get into Heaven?
Your are wrong about their being enough food the average westerner would have to eat less than 1/4 of what they currently do if world food was shared equally and since the worlds population grows larger and space grows smaller it will become worse.
Also claiming you "Saved the world" is arrogance in the extreme if either Britain or Russia had not entered the war the world would have been conquered. Certainly America greatly contributed to the war a great portion of their economy and military might but the Russians paid the highest price in men.
You don't see Russians claiming "We saved Europe and the world aren't we the shit doesn't god love us?"
Soviet Union Military dead: 10,600,000 Civilian Dead: 11,500,000
United Kingdom Military dead: 307,700 Civilian Dead: 61,700
United States Military dead: 407,300 Civilian Dead: 11,200
They took the hardest hits yet most of the credit still goes to the good ol' USA. If you take a look at those figures you'll see who really won WW2.
You answered your own question, The U.S. had the lowest number of dead I would say thats "winning"
FYI- we suppied Russia with lots of material, the U.S enabled the Russians to continue the war, so I guess we saved Russia too.
Plus I love Scotland, because its my land!
Like it or not, the USSR saved our asses in World War II, just like we saved theirs. If Hitler hadn't been all tied up with that eastern front, I don't see any reason why he couldn't have successfully invaded the British Isles and had complete control of Europe, pretty much blocking any attempt at a non-nuclear solution to the war against Germany. And who knows, maybe without the huge waste of money, men and resources spent fighting Russia they could have gotten the bomb first.
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Originally Posted by graph
We'll bang heads with them boys someday, and guess what? We'll probably lose. I hate to even think about it....
Lucy...you got some splainin to do!
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Originally Posted by JunkYard
China only has two aircraft carriers...they should focus more on the poor people of the interior......... U.S. has 14
sbskico1's attitude sums up just about everything anyone outside the bubble hates about America.
You know the god's honest truth is, if there was a war tomorrow, there is only one country I'd gladly pickup a gun to fight against...
I have travelled 3 years of my life in over 40countries and only 1 fills me with anger to the point of violence.
To be truthfull we could have stopped the second war in its tracks had we been as intelligent as the socialist International Brigade who took on Franco in the Spanish civil war(in which the Fokker pilots got there traing helping Franco out) but Europe Britain especially turned a major blind eye to Fascism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
It could have been stopped if genusies like Orwell had been listened to....before it even started
DSS is under new management he is now Ripper
Indeed. Have you read "Homage to Catalonia"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripper
Yeh and the Whole of Shoooting an Elephant.
He writes in length in Shooting an Elephant about trying to turn the troops from a disorganised rabel into a good fighting force after his training in Idia
it was a while back and some fucker stole my copy of Homage Id love ot read it again Is understanding of the political procesess off the time where way ahead of his time......
Oh By Oneinaruat the links.....I'd been looking for something like that
Yes, God loves Amerika.
Youre delusional.
Erm, in WW2 Hitler came VERY, VERY close to dropping a nuke on San Fran and Washington. There was a program about it on the History or Discovery channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbskico1
The Amerikans just got there a few days quicker with Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
So in reality, Hitler nearly dominated the world. Dropping the nuke on Japan more or less ended the war... If Hitler dropped a nuke on Amerika, that would more or less end the war aswell - and he would have complete world dominance.
According to media reports, Hitler in second world war was too confident of Nazi Germanyâ??s victory even in 1944-45 time frame when allies were closing in on him from all sides.
Nazi Germany was inches away from delivering intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuke warheads. Hitlerâ??s confidence (fortunately for the world) never materialized because though the prototypes were tested, they could not be deliverd in the battlefield on time due to lack of resources and time constraints.
According to an 88-year-old former Italian war correspondent, Hitler was preparing to unleash a nuclear bomb on the Allies in the last days of the Second World War. In his book ''Hitler's Secret Weapon'', Luigi Romersa claims to be the last living witness to an experimental detonation of a Nazi weapon he says was the world's first atom bomb.
Recently, historian Rainer Karlsch published a study suggesting that the Nazis conducted three nuclear weapons tests in 1944 and 1945, killing 700 people.
According to think tanks, what really happened is that the Nazi Germany had definitely invented the nukes and missiles but the technology could not be delivered in the battlefield on time. The efforts failed due to lack of time and resources.
Romersa claims that in September 1944, Benito Mussolini entrusted him with a secret mission. Italy's wartime leader wanted to know more after Hitler boasted to him of weapons capable of reversing the course of the war. Romersa, then a 27-year-old war correspondent for Corriere della Sera, was sent to Germany and he met Hitler in a bunker in Rastenburg, northern Poland. He was also given a tour around the Nazis'' secret weapons plant at Peenemunde, on the Baltic coast.
Romersa said from his home in Rome how he saw weapons "streets ahead of any conventional weapons the allies had at the time". He said: "They were developing a missile which they said they intended to launch from Europe across the Atlantic to bomb America."
Recent evidence from Russian archives has, however, shown one of the German scientists lodged a patent claim for a plutonium bomb as early as 1941. Romersa said: "Hitler and Nazi Germany had a very, very developed weapons programme and were certainly capable of creating an atomic bomb."