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No worries, Eva, you did not offend me.
Ahh the Bible - ever an inspiration to the mean hearted and the bigots.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyRedBarron
Re: A Conversation with God
"God, I have a problem."
"What's the problem, Eve?"
"I know that you created me and provided this beautiful garden and
all of these wonderful animals, as well as that hilarious comedic snake,
>but I'm just not happy."
"And why is that Eve?"
"God, I am lonely, and I'm sick to death of apples."
"Well, Eve, in that case, I have a solution. I shall create a man for you."
"Man? What is that God?"
"A flawed creature, with many bad traits. He'll lie, cheat and be vain.
All in all, he'll give you a hard time. But he'll be bigger, faster and
like to hunt and kill things. I'll create him in such a way that he will satisfy
your physical needs. He will be witless and will revel in childish things
like fighting and kicking a ball about. He won't be as smart as you, so he
will also need your advice to think properly."
"Sounds great," says Eve, with ironically raised eyebrows, "but is there a catch?"
"Well.....you can have him on one condition. "
"What is that God?""
"As I said, he'll be proud, arrogant and self admiring..... so you'll have
to let him believe that I made him first. And it will have to be our little
secret........ you know, woman to woman."
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Oh, I LOVE it!!
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Homosexuality defies humanity...
Slip,
no where did I say I hate homosexuals. People who attack people for being gay, handicapped, a diferent race etc. are small minded mean arrogant sons of bitches. (I think we can agree to call them that can't we?)
I don't remember if it was this thread or another one that I said we are to love the sinner but hate the sin. Homosexuality, biblically speaking is a sin. It is no more or less a sin than any other sin. A gay man is more or less a person than any other sinner...myself included. The only diference may be that I accept the fact that I am not perfect and I rest in the grace and mercy of God, who, through His son Jesus Christ saved me and gave me a means to repent of my sins. Whether anyone else makes that decision or not is between them and God.
The thread asked what our stance was on homosexuality. So I answered, and I said why. You are the one twisting what I say and twisting what the Bible says just for the argument.
hmm... i seem to recall (check if you don't believe me, near the bottom of page 2) you being the first one to target me out... you called me out, i thought you wanted a debate or something... next time dont' start something you can't finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by mont974x4
second of all, if you say anything to the sinner, then that's not loving them... the only way you could truely love the sinner hate the sin is if you accepted it's his choice to make, and that you can't change his mind, nor should you. freedom is love, if you are criticizing someone, then they're not free...
I don't see anywhere I called you out, but whatever.
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Slip,
There's a diference between judging and taking a stand for what you believe is right. Christians have a saying that goes something like love the sinner hate the sin. With an issue that fires up an emotional response because its so controversial it does make it harder but its something we have to do.
Biblically, homosexuality is no diferent than any other sin. Sin is sin, no matter what it is. We can, and should, love and respect the person, without telling them we think what they are doing is right. If the person claims to be a Christian then we have the resposnibility to help that person overcome that sin, no matter what it is, and encourage them to come to repentence and restoration with God. We can not do that if we sin by being hateful towards the person themselves. However, if the person knows it is sin and refuses to repent then we have no choice but to ask them to leave the church. This process takes a lot of time and must be handled properly and biblically. This applies to all sin, not just homosexuality.
And why tell others they are racist because we don't condone man love?! Where ARE the real man? men loving men...sheesh..they just like the oral and anal sex homos give up so easy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishmon
:rolleyes: Yeah, because hetro men are SOOOOO picky
I want to ask those who have expressed they are practicing christians. What is your opinion on this phenomenon of eve-angelican christians building mall sized churches with big screen tvs etc while preaching intolerance. Where do they fall into your view of christianity ? Are they true to your faith? Or simply misguided? Also I hate to even mention it as it is such a loaded subject but on the topic of gay marriage. For those who follow the christian faith marriage is a sacred agreement between a man and a woman and a male-male female-female marriage would not be considered true. Now I understand and respect that as we live in a time where we are entitled to religious freedom. Where I become confused is George Bush etc's attempts to pass a constituational ammendment banning gay marriage. Do we or do we not have seperation of church and state in this day and age ? I am just confused how the government has any basis for banning wedlock between a homosexual couple and denying them the benefits of marriage ? Homosexuality is not a crime. Why is entering into a binding agreement illegal ? I just struggle to accept the idea our president is preserving the concept of marrage in the eyes of "the people." Religiously I do not see marriage between a gay couple being accepted and or practiced any time soon, but strictly on a equal benefits level why does the woman down the road or neighbor whatever who busts her ass at work not allowed to then provide support to an ill partner with her health insurance ? Essentially what that says to me is your relationship is irrelevant and untrue. Is this or is this not blatent discrimination? Again I understand and respect those with religious beliefs that do not agree with the idea of homosexuality and or the marriage of a gay couple but at what point did those believes become law ? Sorry to go on I just do not see the justification. I would truly enjoy hearing some opinions. Thanks :)
Because of the words you use and the way you speak about people. When you talk about "man love" and "homos" you let everyone know right where you're coming from. So, because people are offended by the words you use doesn't mean they disagree with you. They're just unwilling to treat their fellow human beings like complete and utter garbage to get their point across.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
Great question. I'd love to see a whole thread about that in the Spirituality forum. The UMC my mom goes to shows video clips during their sermons. But only from really godly movies... like A Beautiful Mind. Seen it with my own eyes. :::shudder:::Quote:
Originally Posted by realgood
Based on my experience, and the Christians and gays that I have known, I would much rather have a gay couple move into the house next to me than a Christian family. And by "Christian" I don't mean simply someone who beleives in God, Jesus etc, I mean "CHRISTIAN"
I actually had a Christain family move in next to me where I used to live and withing 5 miniutes of meeting them they had asked "are you Christian". The look on their faces when we told them "no" disgusted me. I could tell that at that very moment they had judged us as unworthy of their friendship. Forget who we were, or if we were good people. We weren't Christian and that was that. Simply disgusting.
I will start a thread over there. I really am curious as to what people who consider themselves christian think of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lemonboy
I don't mind people being gay, though I must confess I do think it is a bit weird. As previously said, "whatever floats your boat", but I'm not gay, I can't imagine what it's like to be, and I have little to say about stuff like that for that matter.
Slip, that post in no way calls anyone out.
I don't really understand why anyone has a problem with it. It's not like anyone is trying to force straight people into being gay. I believe people should be able to express their homosexuality without having to endure ridicule.
Yes ......some homosexuals do try to force their "ways" on men that they KNOW are straight....seen it and believe it. And another thing...if homosexuals are just wanting to be accepted for who they prefer to be and live their lives the way they choose..then do it and stop whining that because everyone is not like you then its because your gay...sheesh..some people are just butts and has nothing to do with who they prefer sexually.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazinHaze
sounds like you have first hand expirence? don't you do oral or anal....or do you just do it enjoy it then complain about it in public so everyone know your a "lady"Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
Some of the biggest homo-phobes from highschool turned out to be gay.......
One guy who I knew for a FACT had "experimented" had actually been charged with a hate crime on a gay person.
Hhmmm.......
What do you mean by "force"? I've been hit on several times by gay guys and every time I said "it's not my thing" they were cool about it. One guy said something about how it was a pity, he'd show me things no girl could, and let him know if I changed my mind but that was about it. I found it more comical than anything else. If this type of thing makes you so uncomfortable I think its time you takle a long look in the mirror and admit that the reason it makes you uncomfortable is because, deep down, it might be what you really want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
haha..not me sweetie...To clarify for you...I am not uncomfortable with homosexuals..I don't like their lifestyle..see now? Understand the difference? And pray you never see inside bars...then YOU might remember the force thing I mentioned....men are raped..it's just not discussed much..covered up or he is to ashamed to talk about it...I stand by my previous post..and do your homework before attempting to convince me it might be what I want..I am a female...lol:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
Hey to each there own, but if you have to take a stand...just don't stand behind me in the shower.
So? Just because you're female doesn't mean your feelings about homosexuals can't be based on your own repressed feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
Anyhow, you have your opinion and I'll have mine. But I'll stand by my previous post as well. I'd much rather live next to a homosexual couple than a "Christian" couple. In my experience the homosexuals are just better people. Much less judgemental.
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Originally Posted by Fengzi
I agree, never met an uncool homosexual, I meet tons of christians that hate.
I should point out that I have met some really cool Christians too. In high school two of my best friends were Born Again Christians. I still think they were hoping to save me or something but the bottom line was that, deep down, they were really good people. Anyhow, I won't judge anybody until I get to know them. Just in my experience, the majority of hard core Christians that I have met only care about whether or not I was also Christian. When they found I wasn't they immediately judged me as not worthy of their friendship or respect. Some have been seriously rude. So, if I sound a bit predjudiced against Christians I'm sorry if I offend anyone. My feelings are only based on my past experiences.
So you do have experience? Live where you want...it's a free country. When you find out you might have Christians for neighbors...respect their opinions as you expect yours to be respected and maybe that will help with your misunderstanding of Beliefs and judgement.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
I find that very hard to believe. And you shouldn't hate...might not wake up in the morning and you went to sleep with hate in your heart.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by bedake
Read my last post Shel. Anyhow, I have the utmost respect for anyone's religious beliefs. Until, that is, they judge me as a bad person for not sharing that belief. Then they can just go fuck themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
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Originally Posted by Shelbay
i wasnt saying that i hate, i was saying that the christians hate. i love everybody, PLUR! peace love unity and respect!
Okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
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Originally Posted by Shelbay
have you seen the inside of bars?
Yes I have...for six straight years. Any more personal questions?
We don't discuss sex in public where I am from hun. That's the hohos across the track you must be thinking of?? Maybe your friends??:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by slayergirl
How exactly do you know what their lifestyle is, given you aren't part of it? Lifestyle, and sexual style don't have to confuse eachother. Unless we make it our business who fucks who. I fuck my hubby, so what do I care who else is doing whoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
Men are raped. That just goes to show you, it isn't gays, it is MEN! Men are hornballs period, even hetros (gasp). And the jail thing, isn't a gay thing. It is a power thing, which real rape usually is.
And LOL, he isn't the only one who thought you were a dude :thumbsup: So congrats for coming off as a huge dick ;)
I guess since ya don't discuss sex in public, you all have a bunch of retarted imbread 10 year olds making even more retarted imbreads. It is very important for sex to be a discussable topic or else you have pregnate diseased kids....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelbay
Sex is not such a dirty, dirty thing. Gosh were are you from, I am interested. Cause I thought I lived in a redneck state.
when you put my name, in your post... you called me out...Quote:
Originally Posted by mont974x4
next time don't start what you can't finish :stoned:
Homosexuals aren't my thing so you and yours go find you some and have a grand time. And you are sadly mistaken once again about homosexuals in jail..you really are just stupid. I can believe what and I want and guess what? Nothing you can do to change that:) If I had a huge D**k I KNOW you would want it but sorry...I am a lady. Next time try thinking before speaking...your type should be seen and not heard.:thumbsup: Oh....are you sure you know what your hubby does?? lol Think about it :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by siSTARindigo
You have a filthy mouth...sure your mom and dad are not bro and sis?:confused: Next time you and your mentally challenged children are "discussing" sex (hope that is all you do) show them some pics of stds....Sex is beautiful....but man love...yuck! Disgusting and immoral! Thats why we get all our new "STDs" started from them. You think hun?:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by siSTARindigo