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It doesn't matter that he served his time or he's a human being the man violated a child and then was suspected of trying to do so again A FUCKING CHILD!!!
You can't argue a case that you can't use violence no matter what the circumstance because if you do who'll stop the next dictating cunt who wants to take over the world definitely not you pacifists.
I'm christian I smoke it's not morally wrong it's just alot of christians are ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfox
I'm not saying what that dude did was right but when you look at girls you naturally get an erection because you're wired to get an erection from girls. This guy could have been born to only get an erection from younger kids. It's definately still wrong but it might not be his fault. Also I don't care who it is getting ganged up on is no fun. When I was in the 6th grade 4 9th graders beat the living shit out of me I don't care who you are noone deserves that kind of pain. If you're going to beat him up you should have done it one on one because then he could atleast try to defend himself. Leaving him in an alley was also bad because what if he has a medical condition that could cause him to die. Then you guys would be charged with Murder or manslaughter and would probably spend alot if not all of you're lives in jail all because you you didn't wait to get proof and show it to the cops.
THE BIG QUESTION: WHERE IS THIS CHILD'S PARENTS?!!!!!!!!!
UP YOUR ASS
if your stole something from the stoor and someone caught you and beat the shit out you would you steal from that store again. now if a man was tryin to get it with a little girl and was beatin shitless a little while later i dont think he would mess with the girl again. child molesters will pick out a victem they want and will try to get them. so what he done made the future a little safer for the little girl. you say let it into the laws hands, thats just stupid, who created the law? we did.
if you dont fuck someone up bad for trying to get it with your little sister You need to be takin into your law and be put in jail, it dont matter what kind of morals you have or what other people made the law. your a stupid bitch if someone does that to your sister and you dont do anything but call the cops.
and i hear you slipnot sticking up for the pediphile sayin its not fair for him to be jumped. well its really not fair for little girls or boys to be taken advantage of. so fuck your morals and your laws.
im sure they didnt jump the guy to make themselve feel superior or were lookin for a fair fight. thats a way of exucution with actually killing the man.
instead of being strapped up infront of and audience and injected with lethal poisen, the group met him by himself and beat the fuck out him so it wouldnt be fair, no matter how pussy you think it might be, he doesnt deserve to have a fair fight.
its pussy shit when you jump someone because of something pety or bc there different, but when it comes down to someone being the most unfair you can get(child melesting) they just blow "fairness" out of the water.
even though i really dont belive any word of what whatever his name who said he jumped the old man, his concepts are right.
either way i wish i could see slipnot in person so i could slap the piss out you for argueing and for liking slipnot
- you a bitch
first, learn to spell. second, i wish i could see you, better yet i wish i could catch you the middle of breaking into someone's house then twist your own shit on you, and have 4 friends and myself come kick the living shit out of you... but since you "deserve" it, i'm sure you wouldn't be whining and crying like a bitch right? nor would you seek revenge, cuz you, yourself agree people who do cirminal shit need their asses kicked, and no you can't just draw the line here and there... that's called being hypocritical... it's just like those christians who preech to you, til they're bleeding through their teeth, then, as soon as the bible and everything it stands for, gets in their way, it's ok to just toss it aside, because you can always go to church and ask for forgiveness...
slipknot....put yourself in nightfox's friends position....a 40 year old pervert just tried to RAPE your 7 year old sister....would you really say to yourself and family "im not mad, he was in prison and paid for what he did. and since he only tried to kidnap and rape my sister, and didnt actually rape her, im not angry what so ever!"
i know if anyone rapes anyone in my family, their head will be on a fucking platter.
And then you'd most likely end up in prison. Subject to multiple rapings yourself. and no one would be able to look after your family outside. Lose lose scenario?Quote:
Originally Posted by d00d989
First, to assure you, I'm not super attached to the arguments, and generally wouldn't make a big deal about it but, if people are willing to discuss it it's the opportunity to hopefully help talk people out of what we could call bad decision making? Shortsightedness, or not seeing the whole picture perhaps? It should be basic education...Quote:
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
Anyway, to return to the topic, I don't see how fairness is an issue at all. What is fair? Fair can't seem to account for half of the negative stuff that happens in life. Is it fair? Is any misfortune "fair"? Who can say, its a whole different debate... What seems at stake here is the notion of Justice. There is the notion of divine justice, which presumes to judge people on whether or not they're a good person. And then there's our more earthly justice, which punishes you if you happen to violate the system. The fact apparently is there was no violation of the system, except for the beating of the man.
If we want to punish people for what they may do again, or what we think they may do, then we're presuming quite a lot. To have divine justice you need some sort of ability to see in God mode, otherwise it's just: Innocent until suspicious. "These people are bad and need to be dealt with". It "justifies" quite a lot of things. Like witchburnings or the McCarthy Era. It's happening a lot more with situations like the Patriot Act but I personally am not in support of it.
I think the concept of Justice itself is a major misstep in the ethical development of mankind
i actually feel bad for the pedophile for two reasons.
one he has a fetish that most people will kill him for having, i doubt it is any more his fault he gets off to children than it is any mans fault for getting off to another man.
and two, you turned around and beat the living shit out of him for succumbing to human feelings and emotions.
i hear the legal age of consent in japan is 6... does that mean the japanese are all pedophiles and you should kick the crap out of them for having such an age of consent?
If that were true and someone took advantage of it..they should be damaged severely!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
I have no sympathy for a sexual deviant who's desire leads to ruining someone's life...
If it were up to me , pedophiles would be chemically castrated, and never allowed NEAR a child again!
I am fed up with the whole concept that the offender is just some poor victim..and in the mean time we ignore the pain they cause because we feel so bad for the guy who is diddling kids (Oh..pooooor guy had a bad upbringing!)
I think we are all responsible for our actions..if he chooses to diddle kids he deserves pain in return..I don't care that he had a bad childhood..I didn't have a great childhood but I grew up to be a responsible person...
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first off, you have me confused with someone else (polymirize i believe) i never said "he served his time" or anything of the like, second of all, you don't have to beat the shit out of someone just so you're not "standing around and doing nothing" third of all, most of you seem stuck on the fact that i think he shouldn't be punished or whatever... all i've ever said is that 5 to 1 is total bullshit... fourth, i'll say it again... you don't get out of prison on parole for a sex crime, banned from being anywhere near kids, then "try to take a kid" and not get thrown in jail immediatly... there is no way in fuckin hell the cops would of said anything about not having evidence or proof... cops are hard up for pedophiles, and will throw them back in jail if they fart and it doesn't sit well with the cop... so i'm more intended to believe that they just found out this dude was a sex offender, and just beat the shit out of him, then him giving them any reason at all to beat him...Quote:
Originally Posted by d00d989
next i have a new question... if people who prey on kids and hurt kids (pedophiles) should be dealt with in severe manners, what about rapists? people who rape grown people? they're not hurting a child, do they deserve the same treatment? if so, what do you base it on? that they hurt someone innocent of anything towards them? if you take it that far, then what about assualtists, identity theives, arsonists and all of them? do you see where i'm going with this? incase not here it is: you can't solve every problem in the world by beating the shit out of it, you can't change people by beating the shit out of them, if your answer to violence, is violence, where the fuck does it stop? i'm sure you want to deal with pedophiles in these manners because you fear for the saftey of your child (or future children) (btw, i don't believe all of you are really even worried about the children, i think some of you just have violent anger problems, and you target pedophiles, cuz no one really cares what you say or do about/to them) what the hell are you really teaching your child by all of this? you are teaching them every problem can be solved with violence, and tho some and even most may turn out to be respectable human beings when they grow older, there is still going to be many that think everytime someone does something wrong, or something they dont' like, that they can beat the shit out of them and it's justice...
The age of consent in Japan is 13 not 6.
TO WHO? Who are we giving a bad name about ourselves to? Fucking aliens?Quote:
Originally Posted by GanjaBob
Alien - 'those humans can't behave, every time i see one, my opinion of them lowers'
Seriously...
And as the the child molesterer, he deserves everything he got AND MORE. The sick fuck, they all need hanging upside down from a tree by their bollocks.
saying that is kind of pointless, as his point still stands, what we would consider being a sick fuck pedophile here, is legal over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
This has been one of the best threads I've ever read. It maybe wasn't the right thing to do, but who cares. I would've done the same thing. I say your beating was more of a crime of passion then a pre disposed hunt for peodophiles. It if were up to me, that guy would've been put to death after he was convicted. Why he was ever released into society again baffles me. He doesn't deserve to live.
Trust me it does matter there's a big difference between 13 and 6.
His succumbing to his feelings and emotions is not on the small girl did not feel the same way he does just because he feels like feeling her up doesn't mean he has the right to.
imo...
PAEDOPHILE'S ARE SICK TWISTED FUCKS AND THEY ALL DESERVE TO DIE, EVERY SINGLE ONE, THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. IF YOU ENJOY THE PLEASURES OF A MINOR YOU NEED TO BE PUT DOWN LIKE THE ANIMAL YOU ARE.
And breathe...
I think you did it right, lets say he would of gotten away with your best friends sister, that could of ruined the rest of her life. People like that never learn, but I think you tuaght him a good lesson to make sure your friends sister is safe. I hope you did go to the police first, but since they didnt have enough evidence it was time to take the matter in your own hands and you did, good job.
you did good im with u man if somone took my little cuz or somthing i would go out poppin heads with a rifle or somthing i need time to think about it but u get the point i no he didnt take the chick but good job! he deserves to get his ass kicked
Afterall, TonyD would never, ever, have non-consensual sex with a 6 year old.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
or something like that... what a great thread.
I personally would have beat the shit out of him 1 on 1 but fuck it... he deserved what he got...
I agree completely with what you did because it needed to be done.Bashed him?why didnt you kill him?i know the effects of rape almost first hand as my girlfriend was raped for 3 years by her older brother.and all of you who said what this guy did was wrong, deserve to be bashed along side with this child rapist or put in a fucking cell.Rape on an adult is one thing, but when i child is raped it leaves scars that will never go away.
So to all those in this thread who said what he did was wrong?You tell me what you feel like doing the day you get tied down and raped by an old man.
Go NightFox i hope you crippled the fucking bastard.
as opposed to the adult just forgetting it happened?Quote:
Rape on an adult is one thing, but when i child is raped it leaves scars that will never go away.
for the last fuckin time cuz i'm tired of repeating myself, i never said he shouldn't get his ass kicked or whatever you want to do, but don't be a pussy about it, fight one on one... or do whatever by yourself, if you aren't ballsy enough to do it by yourself, then don't fuckin do it...
i wasnt talking about you really, mainly the ones who were completely against it.
but i still disagree, that man had spent half his life taking advantage of little girls.That rapist knew the girls could do nothing to stop him and that they were completely defenceless, so i think its only serving justice to put him in the same situation.If one person were to take him on he would have felt hardly any fear and probably would have won the fight, am i right??Thats not fucking justice.
What has this come to?
Either we don't think violence is a good thing, and therefore are magically in support of child molestation...
Or we're disgusted by child molestation and think violence will solve all problems.
Anyone else see the misrepresentation in these views?
Apparently I need to say it: I am disgusted by molestation. It's a horrible thing and only made more tragic by the extent to which it happens in society. And yet, at the exact same time, I am also disgusted by violence. which is a horrible thing and only made more tragic by how widespread it is. Molestation is at its essense an act of violence, the same as rape, the same as murder.
I don't understand how some of us here seem to feel that violence justifies further violence. Please, explain...
To be honest i never thought of it in that way.I also respect your views.
But i cant help but see things the way i see them.
Im not disgusted by violence at all and it makes me feel better knowing there are people out there that will not just lay down to be walked on, but instead will stand up and fight for what they think is right.
Most likely NightFox heard that there was a pedophile in his neighborhood and was looking for or made up an excuse to kick his ass. He obviously enjoyed it if he smoked a bowl over the guy. A convicted child molester isn't going to pick up little 7 y.o. girls in public after being paroled.
YOU ARE HYPOCRITICALLY THINKING WITH THE SAME FORCE FED STIGMA THAT WE STONERS DEAL WITH EVERYDAY.
(ever notice just how many episodes of Law & Order involve the cop beating down a child molester who vows he will continue molesting every child he sees)
ok maybe i should take the time to point this out...violence, and defending yoruself are two way diffrent things... defending thyself means when cornered or otherwise threatened you will fight back, even to extreme and deadly outcomes.. violence on the other hand, is more of a seeking out a fight, and trying to find any and all reasons to start shit with anyone as long as it ends in a fight... atleast that's my interprutation of violence/defense...Quote:
Originally Posted by Darchy250
as for the post that he wouldnt' of felt threatened/and probably would have won.. the guy that was involved in the beating, and posted here made a point of pointing out how small he was, and besides that, like i said before if you're not man/tough enough to do it yourself, don't do it... you should never get "in water over your head" so to speak, and that goes for more that fighting, an old time jailhouse saying "if you don't wanna do the time, don't do the crime" also, if you were just "minding your own buisness" so to speak (this part is sketchy/unclear) and someone just came up to you and started kicking the shit out of you, would be calm? would you just be like "wtf?" or would you feel threatened?
i think youre full of shit and you beat up a 5 year old who made fun of your ugly face
Violence only begets violence.
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Originally Posted by Darchy250
thank you man for agreeing with me, that fucking sick fuck woudl of hardly a felt any pain. i don't think he could of beat my mate, but still i repeat when some one does shit like this, u do feel anger and frustrated, esp. when its some one u have know for a long time. and fuck u slipknot, seriosuly i would like to know what u would of done if some one would of messed with some one u feel about. even if u would of went one on one, i'm sure other member of ur family or ppl close to you would feel like doing the samething to the person that has hurt the person close to u. fuck all u think about is oh no it wasn't fair for the poor old bastard who got the shit kicked out of him. u guys are pussys. listen we would of all taken him one on one but the fucker deserved to really get the fuck knocked out of him.
u may happen to be retarded u called this man little and 40 ur 16 and 17 wow im pretty sure most juniors should be able to take one guy one on one and then u boast about beating his "ass" yah he diserves something but not a whoopin
Hope ya kicked the sick fuckers nuts right up through his throat!!! NO MERCY for child molesters!!!
GOOD JOB!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
again, i don't believe he even did anything to your friends sister, or even tried, or even in any what of a near vicinity of her, the cops WOULD have done something and that's all there is to it. second of all, if my other family members were to do something after i beat his ass, they would have done it after i had done what i was going to do.. and btw, dont' call me a pussy when you were too scared to fight him one on one.. i seriously hope someday you get jumped for talking shit to the wrong person, or doing some other bullshit criminal activity such as vandalism, burglary, shoplifting i dont' care, i hope you get caught without all your pussy ass punk friends and get your ass beat by 4-5 people... maybe then you'll know what you put him through, doesn't make a fuck what anyone does (or what you say he did to justify finding out someone was a sex offender and deciding to go have fun at his expense) no one deserves that shit...Quote:
fuck u slipknot, seriosuly i would like to know what u would of done if some one would of messed with some one u feel about. even if u would of went one on one, i'm sure other member of ur family or ppl close to you would feel like doing the samething to the person that has hurt the person close to u. fuck all u think about is oh no it wasn't fair for the poor old bastard who got the shit kicked out of him. u guys are pussys.
Out here in California we have a lot of mountain lions. I actually saw one about 2 miles from my house. About 1-2 times a year there will be a story in the paper about some poor hiker getting chomped by one of the critters. At the entrance to most hiking trails near my home are signs stating "you are entering a mountian lion habit", "they might be hungry", etc. Then the signs go on to state that if you are confronted by one you have two choices:
1. Become prey
2. Become a bigger, badder predator
Seems to me that pedophiles are like the mnt lions. So, which option will you choose if confronted by one?
Damn, is this thread still going?
As I may have said before, no, this person didn't do the right thing getting 4 of his buddies to jump this guy. I think this story is fabricated as well. You live in a place, where a convicted child molester lives, and you leave a 7yr old unguarded? Hmmm...plus, him even getting that close without someone saying something, is highly unlikely. Again, how do you "pick-up" a 7yr old? With a smooth line or something, come on now. Also, if someone goes to prison for something like this, it is the police deparments duty to inform the local newscast and braodcast the warning. They do it here all of time. People should have known a crazy man was walking and prowling the streets. Getting that close to a 7yr old, again, won't happen.
I know what he has done to this girl will scar her for life, but this man served his time. He's going to have to live with the fact that he did this to someone. Not only that, you think this convict is going to be able to find work after this? A career? Hell no! His life is ruined for what he did. Everywhere he goes, that marking is on his record.
Maybe he did deserve some rough-housing. Maybe some of them do need a quick slap to the head to straighten them, but no matter how many bruises you put on this man, he is sick, in his brain, forever. These sick people are perm. like this. Are you going to stop them everytime they have an unpure thought? No, they will keep having these thoughts no matter what.
To prevent this from happening, first, you don't leave a 7yr old unattended. You keep close eye on your kids.
5 kids gang beating a man is not right. If you were going to rough house him up, at least say it face to face, not jumping out of bushes all at once. That's a pussy thing to do. All of the gangs should move to an island where they can all beat each other senseless.
I've been jumped by 3 guys for no reason before. Lying in a hospital bed drinking a steak smoothie, not being able to talk properly for months, is something no one should ever have to go through. No matter what crime they did.
On another note to try and , *ahem* understand a sick mind.
A lot of us, we have feelings. When we make someone angry or sad, we feel something called guilt. Now, a lot of these criminals just don't have that part in their brain to compherhend that thought. When they hurt someone, they don't feel the guilt, they just don't. When they rape someone, they don't understand the pain it causes to the other person.
Just imagine trying to comprehend something that you know nothing of. Lets say you speak english, someone tells you to do something in French.......no connection right, you don't understand. That's whaT IT'S LIKE FOR THESE PEOPLE, sorry cap on.
What I'm trying to get at is there is pretty much nothing anyone can do for these people. That's how they are, that's how their brain works, and no amount of prison, beatings or talkings will make them understand.
[QUOTE=slipknotpsycho]first, learn to spell. second, i wish i could see you, better yet i wish i could catch you the middle of breaking into someone's house then twist your own shit on you, and have 4 friends and myself come kick the living shit out of you... but since you "deserve" it, i'm sure you wouldn't be whining and crying like a bitch right? nor would you seek revenge, cuz you, yourself agree people who do cirminal shit need their asses kicked, and no you can't just draw the line here and there... that's called being hypocritical... it's just like those christians who preech to you, til they're bleeding through their teeth, then, as soon as the bible and everything it stands for, gets in their way, it's ok to just toss it aside, because you can always go to church and ask for forgiveness...[/QUOy
your a piece of shit and can go fuck ur self that guy got what he deserved, if someone raped ur mother ur saying ur only going toe to toe with who ever it was, i think u should go to hell and suck a dick