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Originally Posted by eddievanzant

BaseRSX, his point was that fractionally, not eating meat makes little difference to the amount of water we consumed. YOU KNEW THAT, yet you chose to make that post in biased.

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It makes a HUGHE DIFFERENCE in they amount of usable, drinkable water you use to produce meat!!! When did I say differently??? I mean come the fuck on, I donâ??t think anyone thought I was talking about salt water like that loser with the webpage was!!

See I fear that most people that engage in this argument are ether not intelligent enough or patient enough to actually see all the sides. People just want to read the first thing on the screen and say â??ha-ha yeah that supports my view, I will now close my mind.â?�

I donâ??t care if you eat meat or not. Infact I really hope you do keep eating it. I welcome you to even get a job killing animals and post up work pics. That is your personal business not mine.

But donâ??t miss quote me or try to say that eating meat makes no environmental difference because it does make a HUGE environmental difference along with many others.

Not eating meat makes only a slight difference with the amount of water we consume total. Just read his fun with facts paragraph. And besides, we will always have the same amount of drinking water.
You are being hypocritical. You talk about how others are missquoting and aren't paying attention, yet you didn't pay attention to either of the links and misquoted the one about water. Slaughterhouses are more humane than fields. You can act all superior n' shit all you want, but you are no better than us, and you're wasting your life not eating meat. I'm not going to say something like, "I truly feel sorry for you because you're wasting your life," because that is asshole-ish, but I will say that eating plants doesn't help the environment or animal cruelty. You are ignoring all parts of this argument that you cannot counterpoint by pretending to be a dumbass. I know you're not this dumb and I can see where you are avoiding things by pretending to misinterpret shit.

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Originally Posted by eddievanzant

Not eating meat makes only a slight difference with the amount of water we consume total. Just read his fun with facts paragraph. And besides, we will always have the same amount of drinking water.
You are being hypocritical. You talk about how others are missquoting and aren't paying attention, yet you didn't pay attention to either of the links and misquoted the one about water. Slaughterhouses are more humane than fields. You can act all superior n' shit all you want, but you are no better than us, and you're wasting your life not eating meat. I'm not going to say something like, "I truly feel sorry for you because you're wasting your life," because that is asshole-ish, but I will say that eating plants doesn't help the environment or animal cruelty. You are ignoring all parts of this argument that you cannot counterpoint by pretending to be a dumbass. I know you're not this dumb and I can see where you are avoiding things by pretending to misinterpret shit.

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LOL Good luck, because I was like you and believed all this once. But hopefully like any rational person when you are not arguing with me or someone else and you stat to think about things, you will think about this stuff and it will actually bother you. But if you donâ??t thatâ??s cool too.

But you called me a â??dumbass", said you "feel sorry for me" and that Iâ??m wasting my life? WTF? Because of what I choose to eat? LOL come on man, who is getting overly dramatic now!?!? LOL Oh my...

Not eating meat seems to bother people that do eat meat a lot more than eating meat bothers people that donâ??t! ;)

Think about that one for a while and enjoy your steak;)

I'm sick of you purposefully misquoting me. You know I never called you a dumbass. You are not a worthy debater. I'm sure there are a few vegans who are able to support their oppinion, but all you can do is missquote people, stay on the defense and avoid addressing the point. You are not worth anyone's time if this is how you argue regularly.

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Originally Posted by BaseRSX

Did you not read my post? Killing animals is just part of the reason.

Anyway you are totally wrong!! What the hell do you think cows and pigs eat? Did you know 75% of the corn grown in America goes to feed livestock!?!? If everyone ate vegetables only, we would need to grow about 75% less crops to feed people, which would not only save the cows and pigs, but the mice in the fields too.

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you would not need to grow less you would need to grow more
the livestock still has to eat and if we was all vegies we would need more to feed us

OUch this is getting hot.

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Originally Posted by eddievanzant

I'm sick of you purposefully misquoting me. You know I never called you a dumbass. You are not a worthy debater. I'm sure there are a few vegans who are able to support their oppinion, but all you can do is missquote people, stay on the defense and avoid addressing the point. You are not worth anyone's time if this is how you argue regularly.

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Oh so "pretending to be a dumbass" was not calling me a â??dumbassâ?�? I guess that means you were calling me a genius!

But that was the only point out of my last post you disagreed with, so that "miss-quote" allows you to dismiss everything I just said. I guess you won. Lol All the others that actual bothered to read all this can be the judge if I miss quoted you or the really stupid links you put up.

It would be so cool to come eat a tofurky in front of you and your family!! LOL that would be like an insult on your beliefs!! LOL But if you came and ate a turkey in front of me and my family I and they wouldnâ??t even care. Hell I would ask you if you wanted to smoke some pot and play some darts. Well that is if you werenâ??t coming of as the total asshole that you are now!!

Go ahead, try to get the last word again;)

where you living at now? boston tokyo or kansas?

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Originally Posted by smokey

you would not need to grow less you would need to grow more
the livestock still has to eat and if we was all vegies we would need more to feed us

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LOL now come onâ?¦. Do I really need to answer this? Come on dude you can find the flaw in this statement. Really just think for a few mins about what you just said. I mean you donâ??t have to be a vegetarian to see how illogical this statement just was. I mean you could send this to the head of the Beef Council and he would even chuckle!! Lol

See what I mean about the intelligent level of this argument?? Anyone?

I'll smoke some weed, play darts, and eat some chicken.

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Originally Posted by BaseRSX

LOL now come onâ?¦. Do I really need to answer this? Come on dude you can find the flaw in this statement. Really just think for a few mins about what you just said. I mean you donâ??t have to be a vegetarian to see how illogical this statement just was. I mean you could send this to the head of the Beef Council and he would even chuckle!! Lol

See what I mean about the intelligent level of this argument?? Anyone?

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LOL it sure did make me Chuckle!
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Q. What kind of meat does the pope eat?

A. Nun. :D

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Q. What kind of meat does the pope eat?

A. Nun. :D

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lol Dude the Pope is The Anti christ hes Sacrilegious and blasphemous

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Originally Posted by MullManiac

Saves me doing it myself. todays society is far too ethical for my liking.

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Ya i wish todays society was more simple. Back in the 50s and 60s life looked much better, more simple and happy

FYI, the peta Video was filmed in mexico, where Methods of killing animals arent regulated like they are in the US

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Originally Posted by Smokey McPot

Ya i wish todays society was more simple. Back in the 50s and 60s life looked much better, more simple and happy

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Simpler times....where school kids were taught to duck and cover in case of a nuclear attack.

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Originally Posted by Myth1184

FYI, the peta Video was filmed in mexico, where Methods of killing animals arent regulated like they are in the US

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LOL regulated in the USA?? Did you know that a very large percent (70%+) of slaughterhouse workers are illegal Mexicans? Of course so are the workers harvesting our vegetables. But itâ??s hard to regulate workers that donâ??t even show up on anyone's books!!!

But now you are just opening a whole new can of worms!

PETA has long since lost any credibility it ever had because of their demented desire to turn everyone in to vegans. And if they had their way, they would outlaw all meat in a heartbeat. There's a reason we have canine incisors.
We are omnivorous animals. Just had a ribeye sandwich and it was very tasty.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Simpler times....where school kids were taught to duck and cover in case of a nuclear attack.

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Yeah...like that would have worked. One more reason to question everything the govt says.

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Originally Posted by bonsaiguy

Yeah...like that would have worked. One more reason to question everything the govt says.

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I agree with PETA being a bad organization. I have never supported or endorsed them. But that should not make you dismiss every cause they are involved in across the board. Much of what they are trying to do is just, but not done in a very good way. Peta is just one group.

And yeah the 1950s under the desk thing is so funny!! Our government loves to scare us into agreeing with extreme measures. Remember the plastic sheeting and duct tape of 9-11?!?! LOL Its amazing people actually went out and bought that stuff.

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Originally Posted by BaseRSX

I agree with PETA being a bad organization. I have never supported or endorsed them. But that should not make you dismiss every cause they are involved in across the board. Much of what they are trying to do is just, but not done in a very good way. Peta is just one group.

And yeah the 1950s under the desk thing is so funny!! Our government loves to scare us into agreeing with extreme measures. Remember the plastic sheeting and duct tape of 9-11?!?! LOL Its amazing people actually went out and bought that stuff.

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Hitler had a couple of good ideas too. PETA has been overtaken by lunatics who are as fanatical and jihadist as Al Queda, the so called reverend Fred Phelps, anti smoking health nazi's, the Southern Baptist Council, Dubya, etc etc...they are looking to shock everyone in to believing that meat is bad and have no qualms about any of the loons who take action in their name. They are of the belief that they are right and anyone who does not agree with them is crazy, brainwashed or just plain evil. They are more than entitled to their opinion (and is does provide a certain degree of entertainment from time to time) However their huge self importance has convinced them that they are right. This always happens with organizations like this who start out with good intentions but soon become drunk on power and money. In fairness, the animal rights folks have done some good in improving conditions for animals, improving methods of killing and processing them, etc. They have also made great contributions to the health and well being of pets and helped to increase penalties for those who wantonly abuse animals. All good things.

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Originally Posted by bonsaiguy

Hitler had a couple of good ideas too. PETA has been overtaken by lunatics who are as fanatical and jihadist as Al Queda, the so called reverend Fred Phelps, anti smoking health nazi's, the Southern Baptist Council, Dubya, etc etc...they are looking to shock everyone in to believing that meat is bad and have no qualms about any of the loons who take action in their name. They are of the belief that they are right and anyone who does not agree with them is crazy, brainwashed or just plain evil. They are more than entitled to their opinion (and is does provide a certain degree of entertainment from time to time) However their huge self importance has convinced them that they are right. This always happens with organizations like this who start out with good intentions but soon become drunk on power and money. In fairness, the animal rights folks have done some good in improving conditions for animals, improving methods of killing and processing them, etc. They have also made great contributions to the health and well being of pets and helped to increase penalties for those who wantonly abuse animals. All good things.

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Well yes I'm glad you acknowledge some good things from animal rights people. But comparing them to Al Queda?!? Lol come on man, I could compare the Christian church, McDonalds and half a dozen other things to them. Kind of sensational and unnecessary if you ask me.

And both Hitler and Gandhi were vegetarians. Yes that is a fact! That should tell you something. One of the most destructive and peaceful people in earth's history agreeing about one thing. Not eating meat.

You can say all you want about both people, for or against. But the fact that they both agreed about that is fascinating no mater how you look at it .

I'm not going to argue with any of your recent posts because they include nothing anyone using the average amount brain normal people use would see as a point worth discussing. LOL! :Wink: LOL!

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Yeah...like that would have worked. One more reason to question everything the govt says.

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OH COME ON, it's the only god damnt thing you can do, sorry schools don't build fall out shelters for thousands of kids

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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli

OH COME ON, it's the only god damnt thing you can do, sorry schools don't build fall out shelters for thousands of kids

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LOL this is another one. Now come on think about what you just said. Just for a few mins... You can do it, you can figure out how stupid of a statement that is... You think getting under a desk is going to help you survive at all during a nuclear attack!?!

Yes if there was a real threat they would have built fallout shelters for kids!! And not thousands.. MILLIONS!!

The fact that you are on cannabis.com would I assume mean that you undstand the bogus ad campaign against pot in the 1930s? You know "Refer Madness" etc. You think that â??under the deskâ?� crap from the 1950s was any different?

come to the chatroom tonmight, it's a party.
what do you sugest that the schools should make the students do in a emergency like that?

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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli

come to the chatroom tonmight, it's a party.
what do you sugest that the schools should make the students do in a emergency like that?

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LOL nothing!! There is nothing you could possibly do to avoid death in an atack like that in a normal building!! And the fact that they conducted bullshit drills for it was just done to scare people, absolutly nothing to actually help save lives if it actually happened!!!

it's not like they are saying that it will save your life, but it just gives the slightest chance of survival, it's like a security blanket.. i hope i don't sound like a dumbass right now lol

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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli

it's not like they are saying that it will save your life, but it just gives the slightest chance of survival, it's like a security blanket.. i hope i don't sound like a dumbass right now lol

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You're not a dumbass. (at least I don't think so)
Even though the nukes we have now make the ones we dropped on the Japanese look like pop rocks, during the 60's in particular there was the deranged concept of MAD or Mutually Assured Destruction. We had enought nuke power in our sub fleet alone to blow up Russia about 15 or 20 times. (gives real meaning to the word overkill) And the Russians (former USSR) had about the same capacity. In the event of all out nuclear war, there was no survival. Only the twisted satisfaction of knowing that if we died, so would they and vice versa. Ain't that special?

The animals killed (accidently) in the process of harvesting wheat and other crops is not to be compared to industrial factory farming for meat. It's absurd.

look at the stats.


70%+ crops are grown for animals to be slaughtered





so us veggies are still helping by not supporting the majority of farming methods that accidently get mice

aw that video is fucked up. i only scimmed threw, but ughh.

i dont see anything wrong with killing hogs i love hog hunting

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Originally Posted by MEANGREEN06

i dont see anything wrong with killing hogs

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they have the intelligence of 5 - 10 year olds..

When I was 7, my aunt made me twist the neck of a chicken at her farm, before we bled it and cooked it for Sunday Lunch. This was my lesson from her as to where meat comes from and what it means when you take a mouthful of meat.

That covered me for many years, and allowed me to justify the meat that I was eating whilst being active in campaigning against the mistreatment of animals (for a few very disillusioning years)...

I am no vegitarian, nor do I beleive I ever could be. I have read up on battery farming (which is disgusting), and witness regularly trucks transporting animals in terrible conditions across Europe. Laws exist to protect these animals, the ability to enforce those laws (either in terms of money or available resources), does not exist, so the cruel treatment continues.

I try to buy organic and open farmed produce - but of course its so expensive that really it makes meat a luxury item. I still eat the occasional kebab made of processed lambs lips and toenails, and once or twice have even had the McNuggets (Chicken assholes and elbows). I don't, and nor should I, feel that much guilt.

For all the cruelty in the production of food - at least these animals are dying with a real purpose (to feed people), although as I previously mentioned, the ability for legal agencies to enforce the law needs to be put in place. Animals used for other testing, however, such as make-up and other items of human vanity, are, in my opinion dying for no reason other than human ego, so we can look good - that hardly seems justified.

Its an interesting debate when you talk to an "anti-meat-eater" Vegitarian, who still uses make-up, wears leather shoes and uses bathroom products.....!!

I respect the views on here tho - noone is trying to force the issue down someone elses throat - this is the way intelligent debate should be held!

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Its an interesting debate when you talk to an "anti-meat-eater" Vegitarian, who still uses make-up, wears leather shoes and uses bathroom products.....!!

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Originally Posted by Euphoric

they have the intelligence of 5 - 10 year olds..

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And yet...given the chance, would roll in their own shit and make grunting noises when it eats. yea...

Animals never have and never will have the brain's that humans do. That's what puts us at the very top of the food chain. Humans have evolved.. have pigs? To put animals on the same level as people is just plain stupid. Don't eat meat, if you think it's healthier. Don't eat meat if you think it's cruel. But don't, under any circumstance say a pig has the intelligence of a 5-10 year old because it makes you sound stupid. I'm not saying you are, but the statement screams it.

p.s. Do you seriously believe that they specificly use the rectal sphincter and elbow of chickens to make food? do they even have elbows? what a silly concept..

Bob.

First of all I am not trying to persuade any vegetarian/vegan to eat meat. I have tried to exclude meat from my diet,but always get anemic in the process.
There are good suppliers of organic and natural meat out there. The animals have good living conditions and are only fed high quality grains, etc. Just be aware where your food is coming from and how is was grown or raised. We are only a small group, but every little bit makes a difference.

I was raised on a farm, these films are propaganda.
It is just like those anti drug commercials where they show 30 year olds still living with their parents, having no job and being drop out losers.
Sure there are some, but there are a lot who aren't so shut up already, pack a bowl and eat a damn steak.

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Originally Posted by BobBong

And yet...given the chance, would roll in their own shit and make grunting noises when it eats. yea...

Animals never have and never will have the brain's that humans do. That's what puts us at the very top of the food chain. Humans have evolved.. have pigs? To put animals on the same level as people is just plain stupid. Don't eat meat, if you think it's healthier. Don't eat meat if you think it's cruel. But don't, under any circumstance say a pig has the intelligence of a 5-10 year old because it makes you sound stupid. I'm not saying you are, but the statement screams it.

p.s. Do you seriously believe that they specificly use the rectal sphincter and elbow of chickens to make food? do they even have elbows? what a silly concept..

Bob.

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they roll in their shit and mud because it protects them from the sun cuz they burn easily......thought i would tell you a cool little fact

the strong over power the weak, its a part of the food chain; so i do eat meat.