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Slipknot, dude, I totally agree with you. Looks like we're alone on this though.. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
I also agree with amsterdam's and Lulu's suggestion. As much as I don't agree with putting people in jail, I admit that sometimes there is currently no other alternative. Madnatory life sentence, no parol, tracking devices, etc.
its not a proposal,its the new law in like 12 states,and its a good one that should be supported.it isnt perfect,but it keeps these MONSTERS away from society for a long,long,long time.
PS - If a loved one committed one of those acts, one of the really bad ones ((not like having sex with a chick a couple months under the legal age)) they lose their status as a loved one. -shrugs-[/QUOTE]
I like this last quote.
I have some very close people in my life who have been molested. I also "had" one of my best friends tell me he was a child molester, over a hundred kids. Turned him in. Of course I did. You have a sex problem? There's plenty of consenting adults you can have sex with DO NOT HURT LITTLE CHILDREN! Plain and simple. So for me, what do I say we do? First I say we cut their ball off, then their penis, then their tounges, then their fingers and toes one at a time. Then both their eyes and their nose. You leave the ear's so, like the movie, they can hear every scream and shreik from people saying "what is that thing"!
Howto
Okay, if somebody is a paedophile you torture them. Right?
So what do you do about people who torture people?
no torture,long prison terms in general population.ouch!!
i could agree with amsterdam, seems to be the only logical solution at the present time, but it needs something more....we don't want to have proof of what these people are doing, we need to stop it before it happens, once it happens the child will face the pain for the rest of their life.....so they stilll need to be able to be put somewhere kids will not venture, and if they stray outside that boundary (the predator) then police are immediately dispatched to throw them in prison
As to ghost , unless their in the prison system as scientists doing medical research (which they already do on all sorts of thinking animals anyway....) then they'de be charged just like any other "torturer" please dont grasp for straws. As someone pointed out earlier its not black and white. And, that is simple common sense.
Also I agree with someone else who said "if my loved one raped someone then they wouldnt be a loved one anymore" I'm sorry I love my brother but if he did that, he belongs in that medical experiment just as much as the rest. Id feel bad, but he did it , he made the choice. And, he made someone else a victim....
and Slip what do you think they would do on that island?And , what do we do to feed them? etc etc. I say fuck em. And, I prefer not to use profanity. What happens when the island isnt big enough, Sending someone to a desert island or a tropical island etc isnt much of a detterrant in my eyes.
People keep bringing up "what do we do about minor cases" since this has been explicity stated by several people(including myself) before, I suggest you just read the first pages through to the last ;). Since we've covered it already. Please stop rehashing it as a new arguement when its been covered :). OPEN AND SHUT CASES ONLY! , you will NEVER have a perfect system until we can literally read everyones minds.....Innocent people go to jail now , for crimes they never committed problem is theres always a flaw in the evidence. It takes complicity from either police , Jury or prosecutor (or even the defending attorney) to fabricate and lie. So they leave behind evidence. Basically we should enforce the rule that you never investigate someone you know ;). Which is already a rule which is hardly enforced among lawmen.
Hey, I know of an island we could use... I think it's called something like Osstrailier.....
how about a barbell chained to thier repective genital organ? then toss into a river of pirhannas.
How incredibly civil of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by tokosan
the laws most states have in the books for child sex offenders with offenders doing about 5 years on average for sodomizing a child are civil.its time to stop being nice to these sick fucks and getting hard on them.25 years for first offence,life for the second no questions asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stedric
civil?hell no.
Then the dark side has already won.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
Seriously, how low are you willing to stoop in the name of justice? How many evil doers do you have to punish before you become one yourself?
Lock em up and throw away the key.
the laws do not protect the children
but i will protect mine
and i will hand out a death sentence to anyone who molest my kid
or anyone who molest's a kid that i see doing it,
i will shoot the sick mother fucker in thge head on site
and i will shoot the first cop who comes to arrest me for it,and the next and the next untill they shoot me
child rapist and any rapist needs hung by the neck untill dead
period,
right on Nowhereman! what alot of these peeps dont realize is that prison isn't what ya'll think it is. if anyone read any of my last posts, they make entire prisons for them, at least in michigan. they practically run several prisons here in mich. due to the sheer volume of CSC cases in here. they are pampered becuz they are all snitches & tell the corr. officers everything they want to know. prison isn't a punishment for them, wasn't for me. yea, it sucked, but what alot of peeps dont realize is that every responsibility is removed from a person, no bills, no obligations, no decision making. we're all told where to go, when to go there, & how to do it. prison is a vacation from life, yea, your liberties are taken away, no sex with opposite sex, but there is all the drugs, booze & sex anyone could ever get in there. so tell me, what would prison do for a molester? puts them in with others of same nature so they can trade stories & ideas about who to abuse, how not to get caught, where to dump the bodies. i've been in the worst prisons in michigan & find it strange the the CSC fucks always go to camp candyass, why? so they wont be fuked with, tortured, & killed. a dead snitch does the D.O.C. no good, cant even get the federal $ for them @ that point. I may be wrong but people who voice compasion for sex offenders are either offenders therselves or have never had kids or been abused themselves. sometimes a person must stand up for what's right even if it's against the law. if someone inappropiately touched one of my sons, i would snuff that person out like they were the virus they acted like. i could hold my head up high in prison with the knowledge that i removed a person like that from this plane of existence. believe me, i would have it made in the joint after such an event. i would not want for anything except my freedom & that is relative & in our heads. been more free in prison than i was walking the streets in my prison of addiction. for those who are Christian, God works thru humans & if i took one out who is to say that is not what God wanted & He was working thru me to save some children? sounds like slipknotphsyco got popped with an underaged girl or he honestly doesn't think these people are bad. it's been an observation of mine that anyone who shows the slightest compasion for these monsters, are one or have a loved one that is one. r
o.k.,then we should house them with your children in a secure location.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stedric
gimme a break making excuses for child molesters.
How am I making an excuse for them?! I am saying we could do with less machismo "I'm going to take them out in a blaze of glory" bullshit. That never happens, we don't live in a fucking action movie where killing people is going to make things any better.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
I have absolutely no compassion for people like that, but it doesn't make me want to see normal, civilised humans turn blood-thirsty and talk about the worst ways to torture other humans. I have NO compassion for people like that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by trippruss
Exactly, what is the point of becoming a barbarian just for the sake of punishing one? The worst atrocities commited in history were commited in the name of good intentions.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
i dont want to "take them out" at all,i want every state to pass Lundsfords law.
yes you are wrong, i was abused as a child and not even i would think to do what some have proposed. i feel no love or feelings whatsoever for my abuser, but would never think of putting another human being through being infected with an std to be tested upon., or chaining their penis to a barbell and dumping them into some river to be eaten alive or any other form of torture that has been suggestedQuote:
Originally Posted by trippruss
and that is what i'm doing now, it's not right, no matter what they've done to torture them, at most lock them up for life where they are never to see another person again...muchless get the chance to do it again. what good is it really doing to kill someone? think about this: if they're dead, they don't suffer with the consequences. my brother was murdered, do i want the guy to be put to death? nope, i want him to sit in prison for as long as possible....because if i was faced with death or sitting the rest of my life in prison i'd rather be dead, therefore by giving me death you'd be doing me a favor. yes it's true that there woudl be a chance he could get out, and some people are just not meant to be in society because they can't seem to control themselves, but death isn't always the right answer, and torture is never the right answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by trippruss
do the same thing to them as they did to the person