" Thus you support troops (alot of them 18-year old boys younger than i am) that are ordered to shoot at people that usually happen to be...innocent WOMEN."Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
At least get your retoric strait!
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" Thus you support troops (alot of them 18-year old boys younger than i am) that are ordered to shoot at people that usually happen to be...innocent WOMEN."Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
At least get your retoric strait!
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Oka that was my bad. I intended to say that soldiers are ordered to fire on people that usually END UP being innocent women. Now, back to our regularly scheduled message board of conservative diversion!
im a coward? no man i wake up every morning and look at this hole in my gut as i reach for my bottle of pain pills =) and in my heart i know im not a coward. and i should of expected assanine comments from a canadian. Like psy said, you have no balls, at least i had the balls to stand up when i was called on. Eat shit and die.
Conservative diversion? Tooo funny! Your definately a Dem., they are the only ones with so many OOOPS statements. Probably the reason why they can't get elected.:D How bout Hillery in 2008! She talks your language.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
I guess hes never seen a truck with a .50 cal mounted on the back of it being driven by a woman. What would you do in that situation nich? lay down and ask the friendly man not to shoot you?
Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Saying that makes it seem like all oil companies rape and pillage countries. Did you even bother to research the companies track record of improving communities and did you check to see if it had a firm stance against wasted energy resources? Did you even bother to mention that the company has a track record of being one of the most ecologically efficient in the world meaning that it obviously takes care of its surroundings? Did you forget to mention that the company is based in canada but contracts all over the world? If you have that narrow-minded viewpoint then i guess you figure its okay for jihadists to label all americans as corrupt infidels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Of the 30 members of the Defense Policy Board, the government-appointed group that advises the Pentagon, at least nine have ties to companies that have won more than $76 billion in defense contracts in 2001 and 2002. Four members are registered lobbyists, one of whom represents two of the three largest defense contractors.
http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/a...-advisors.html
every step toward war fills Bush pockets quite literally with gold. That's the way they operate, these liars and thieves in thousand-dollar suits, these secretive fronts who profit from war, fear, blood and greasy palms. They arm the "monsters," they disarm the monsters, making money both ways. Then they drape themselves with Bible and flag, like smug pimps promenading to church, singing "Glory Hallelujah" while the whole world burns.
http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd02152003.html
Fortunes of war await Bush's circle after attacks on Iraq
http://www.rense.com/general29/dbus.htm http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=333400
WASHINGTON â?? The Iraq (news - web sites) war helped bring record earnings to St. Louis-based defense contractor Engineered Support Systems Inc., and new financial data show that the firm's war-related profits have trickled down to a familiar family name â?? Bush.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/pns/d...coid=122604846
William Bush is a director of Engineered Support Systems Inc., a supplier of high-tech military goods to - well, to the highest bidder. Just last year they sold $13 million worth of advanced radar gear to upgrade communist China's fleet of fighter jets - you know, the kind that force down U.S. spy planes with such aplomb...
Most of our taxes go to the military and the
likes of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc., who pocket the money and
deliver (usually over budget and late) questionable weapons systems
Once upon a time, the military was supposed to protect America from attack.
Now the military is used to attack other countries. Not because they
threaten you or me. Because it's profitable.
Bush has 32 former arms industry executives, consultants, and major
stockholders in his administration (according to Michelle Ciarrocca, of the
Arms Trade Resource Center). Lockheed Martin VP Bruce Jackson was the
finance chair of the Bush for President campaign. He was heard to brag at a
conference that he would be in a position to "write the Republican platform"
on defense if Bush was nominated. Dick Cheney spent years running
Halliburton, which ranked 18th on the Pentagon's top contractors list in FY
1999. Cheney's wife, Lynne, served on Lockheed Martin's board. Secretary of
the Air Force James Roche is a former Northrop Grumman vice president. Lewis
Libby and Paul Wolfowitz also worked for Northrop Grumman as consultants.
Richard Armitage was a Boeing consultant and Karl Rove a Boeing shareholder
(Armitage was also a consultant for Raytheon). And, of course, daddy Bush
sits on the board of directors of the Carlyle Group (as does James Baker,
the former secretary of state), an investment consortium contracting for
United Defense.
Just start researching the top 20 companies that are profiting from this war and then how they are tied to Bush...
Just because you stood up and signed on to fight in a war we're still trying to figure out doesn't say anything about your balls except for the fact that you resorted to them rather than your brains. You think you're some kind of self-righteous liberator because you got shot? People shot at you because they feared that you would take away their lives and discourage their religious beliefs and steal their wealth. Somebody shot at me because there probably weren't enough police fighting the "war on terror" on real criminals who dont care about freedom and the liberty of life.Quote:
Originally Posted by makor01
Nich ill let you know that it is most deff a good thing that you dont know me IRL...i hope one day you have big enough feet to walk 1 inch in my shoes...i have nothing more to say to you.
Right like the oops statements made by your beloved administration pertaining to illegal arms sales, projected time of freeing iraq completely and torture tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
So your oil firm isn't looking for a profit while U.S. ones are. Our oil firms are supportive of killing women while yours what, provides child care for women. Get a grip dude! The French and Russians were kicked out and the U.S. companies got some contracts. SO DID THE CANADIAN COMPANIES! So whats the difference? I forgot, GW owns all U.S. oil companies...right.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
YEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!! Thats some mighty fine logic you got there feller!! Blow em all to pieces!! I reckon that if we shoot aller them women folk it'll be okay jes' as long as we thunkered she was one of them dang fangled EYE-RACKY A-RAB terry-rists!Quote:
Originally Posted by makor01
Typical for a Dem....avoid the blunder and change the subject matter. I grow tired of you. Time to check the babies. Damn, what if there female....I just may shoot em!Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
There is no reason to call any soldier lady killer or baby killer. No one should ever pass judgement when you have not been in the situation these soldiers are in. The point here is that their lives are being put in danger so that the war profiteers can make money.
They were told they were there to liberate and that there were WMDs..that has been proven to be a lie. There is proof this war was dream up far before 9/11 http://www.pnac.info/
and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
the Bush administration switched from WMDs to freedom fight....
Why can you not see this as wrong?
Bitch driving a truck with a 50 cal mounted and you would show mercy? Body bag for NicholASS! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
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I hope I don't become too brainwashed and corrupted to HAVE to walk that one inch. I'm not one who likes moving in the wrong direction.
You guys are just being silly... :rolleyes:
psycho...let me know when you read the links...you really can tie this war to profiteering...
My war was in afghanistan not iraq....i didnt get a chance to go to iraq or i would of. Nich's uslessness isnt bothering me anymore, hes just showing his own ignorance.
But if he must know, we blew the shit out of that truck Nich.
Thats again one of the many nightmares that i have at least everyother night. Shit happens when youre put in life and death situations huh man? Yet again you wouldnt know anything about that.
Yes "my" oil firm is looking for a profit. Oil can't pump on well wishes and good feelings alone. You want companies that don't care about profits, then go back to sleep and say hello to the Tooth fairy for me. I never said anything about oil firms having any kind of opinion or stance on the current war other than profits. However, you seem reluctant to hint at the fact that your oil firms are mostly controlled by the man sending troops to die for them. GW might not own all oil companies, but all of them going to iraq have to go through him and his admin. in some form or another.....so i am right. thanks for backing me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I talked to a marine from afganistan that was having a hard time. He was involved in the accidental shooting of an 80 year old couple. It bothers him a lot.
If i had avoided the blunder I would have not made any reference to my mistake. But now that your on partisan-bashing, sounds just like a conservative to get called out on fucking up but sweeping blame under the rug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
[QUOTE=BlueCat]There is no reason to call any soldier lady killer or baby killer. No one should ever pass judgement when you have not been in the situation these soldiers are in. The point here is that their lives are being put in danger so that the war profiteers can make money. QUOTE]
No its not like that! Im not trying to say soldiers are baby killers or women killers! Im not some hippy asshole. Im trying to say that soldiers are ordered to fire on enemies but as a RESULT women and other innocents are killed ACCIDENTALLY. Dont let these guys switch around what im trying to say. I need you on my side with these issues, cat.
OK nichol...its ok. :) I understood what you meant.
yeah cat...there is a shit load of stuff that im trying to "get over" its not so much the fact that i did take many peoples lives, its all the "what ifs". never in my life did i ever think id tell some private to light up a woman....never...but if i didnt that POS would of killed us all...also referr to my post on the "soldier cleared" thread...some nasty stuff happens in war and the only point that im trying to get across here is that there is no reason to talk down on our troops. we only did what we were told, and what we had to do to make it home alive.
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Nich youve showed your ass here man, no reason to try to go back on it now...we all know exactly what you meant. I didnt see you say "Accidentally" once man...get a clue bro.
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Originally Posted by makor01
Look man, im sorry. I havnt smoked in about a couple hours so im a little irritable. I don't think you're the enemy at all. In fact, I think you're even kind of cool. I respect what you've done for the world and the sacrifices you've made but my stance is that you were told to go into there for not necessarily the wrong reasons but under false pretenses that the Bush admin. made up. I wouldnt wish for any soldier to go into a combat situation unless it was absolutely necessary. I'm speaking out against a government that selfishly asks you to lay your life down just so they could make a profit. If I could, I'd change things so you or anyone wouldnt have to think about 50 cal trucks and bullets in your guts. We may be different idealogically, but Im not your enemy.
He did not mean our soldiers were shooting women on purpose..come on now..
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Couldn't have said it better myself... :)
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Must've missed my pronouncement of making a mistake. See how easy it can be? All together now...
I agree with you about going into iraq for the wrong reasons...im actually quite bitter on how our campaign in afghanistan got overlooked. I seriously thought that we would find osama there, but the focus was switched and we lost him. Yet i dont feel that my sacrifice was for nothing.
neither do i, mak. Dont think i havnt noticed the footage of people being brought together to aid those fighting or the tears that've flowed from others that contemplate why their family members had to be the one that died. YOU and thousands of others didnt go in for the wrong reasons, Bush, rumsfeld, ashcroft powel and condosleazza did.
Not only overlooked he pulled troops out and let it become even more dangerous for the troops...
And don't forget about Gonzalez too!
yup....sadly this is a twisted world we live in...i sure hope things are better when i have children.
You forgot about the Senate and House of Representatives. They all had the same info and reports and one by one showed their little faces on the TV stating how Sadamm had to go, invasion is imminant. The peoples democratic heros didn't change their minds till American lives were lost. Then its BUSHS war. You think I'm all about Bush, I distrust all politicians! I just couldn't see putting Hanoi Kerry into that position while we had brave soldiers like makor01 in harms way.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
My own personal feeling on politics....set down the 8 major world leaders with an ounce of White Widow and let them talk shit out! :D
My own personal feeling on politics....set down the 8 major world leaders with an ounce of White Widow and let them talk shit out!
Sounds like a good plan to me.... :D
I didnt mention them because they were duped like most of us. It's Bushs war now because he's in charge. I agree with you on the White Widow movement thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Like the quote, instead of WMD we could implement WWM. White Widow Movement....kinda like Bill and Teds great Adventure. What a way to bring on world peace!Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Keep it real all.....people to see, weed to smoke, and if I get lucky...maybe I'll run into GW with a couple of those sweet white lines!LOL :D
P.S. They weren't duped dude, like all crooked politicians, they were saying what the American public wanted to hear at the time. Lying Bastards one and all! Just remember the famous acts of Bill Clinton....who I liked and voted twice for...If the lady didn't swallow, ya just can't call it sex. CLASSIC!
nah don't do that. you'll just end up screwing up social security lol.