that is GOLDEN! love it... :DQuote:
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that is GOLDEN! love it... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 2600
well Fengzi you speak the truth...mostly....there are many liberals...young ones mostly..looking for a new Che Rev. without really knowing what they are supporting...but thats how you learn...its the ones with no voice that worry me.
And if there were not protests things would be swept under the rug...for instance I did not know how bad WTO was until the protests started and I started my own researching....I do think you are over generalizing when it comes to liberals...I know a lot of them that are in the loop and know exactly what is going on with our goverment...and if you do then you know the truth is things will only get worse for the USA...a lot worse...the checks and balances did not work...for me it is time to kick into survival mode...and head south once the Central Am. freetrade passes and it will the current Admin. the economy will rise and jobs will go up in central america and the good old usa is going to suffer economically...unless your in the top 2% or have a really nice nest egg your in for a bumpy ride....I already have talked to a lot of people just waiting for the aggreement to pass so they can set up shop...there go american jobs...just like happened with American Textile business.
I'm sorry it is that way really....both sides lose...no one wants to see their country go down but Down it is headed...because of the amsterdams, and Torogs that keep the lie going.
I'm headed for a margarita, a little Sensimilla and a sunset on a warm beach at a cheap price....I believe the saying goes love it or it LEAVE it....well you don't have to twist my arm I can see the writing on the wall....so if any of you libby's start feeling the heat you can come party with me and mine....really I should be there by Oct maybe Nov. I'll keep posting...it will be fun
Oh and BTW on the cop taser thing...I had a first hand experience with an asshole cop using a taser on a 14 year old kid...becuase he did not get off his bike fast enough....there was another kid killed in BC by a cop taser...and the 14 year old is true these same cops wrote 211 tickets in one weekend in a closed community of 900 people! It is not the tasers we should be fighting though it is the idiots that are allowed to have them and with the patriot act they have just been given more power.
I am still in litigation concerning the cops or I would tell u more...
Its been nice talking to you....I likes a lot of what you had to say....
have a nice evening....
as for Amsterdam and Torog wouldn't it be Ironic if you got busted by your heros?! hahaha and they found where you had bought ammo and you were labeled a terrorist!
then they put you in jail ...and with the news laws you get NO representation LMAO keep waving that flag....baaaaa baaaa
Smiling Cat
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
I know.... aint it cool :D
YOU RED COMMIE BASTARDS :mad: ...kidding...PEACE I got some good shit tonight got to sleep it off...GOT TO READ SOMEMORE FIRST...I POSTED TOO MUCH...DAMN
LIBERAL HUGS ALL ROUND...
CAT
i am a liberal. i am a hippo kritt. i am a pill popper.no i am a weed head.i am all above plus lots more
hahahahahaha...ok
Personally for me, I'm an independent. I like it that way, I have a mind of my own and I like to use it as I see fit. I don't pick one side over the other, I never will. I look at the issues at hand, check to see who I think will do the best job based on their opinions, and previous record. Sometimes I'm on the red side, and sometimes I'm on the blue side, and some I vote for the independent. I think we all should vote that way, but it's just my opinion and I'm not trying to change the way anyone thinks. To each his own, to each his own that is what I belive, and I will stay that way. Be true to who you are, and that is all you can do. Bluecat, I support you b/c you feel strongly about your party. Awesome, you found something you believe in and you stick with you. Your being true to yourself, and that is all you can do. That is what I do too.
Thats as it should be...so how are you doing smokin2? Hope you're at peace this evening :) I am going to make some cookies...back soon
Cat
lib·er·tine
One who acts without moral restraint; a dissolute person.
One who defies established religious precepts; a freethinker.
adj.
Morally unrestrained; dissolute.
nothing is wrong with being liberal, and nothing is wrong with being a libertine!
I think the problem is, a lot of people seem to think that liberal means hates America, loves terrorists, never believes in wars etc.
I doubt anyone here falls into that category. The whole reason people are liberal is because they believe that the world needs to be made better for people. So why would we support terrorism? We just believe that the world isn't perfect, and so changes need to made to move closer to perfection. Is that really stupid?
Also, let me clarify something. "Liberal" is not the same as "Democrat," and "conservative" is not the same as "Republican."
Howdy Kombucha,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kombucha
Well...from what I've seen from liberals,they don't like capitalism..so therefore,they don't like America,they do love,anyone who will attack America and Bush,and almost every liberal admin and liberal,likes to do what they can to decimate the military and discourage patriotism..that means that they have to say that there's no just war.
Making the world better,by means of amoral relativism and endless social engineering,is impossible. The Left,continually promotes hedonism and narcisism,despises personal accountability and selflessness,has more excuses than Carter has liver pills,when it comes to doing good,honest hard work..and humility and gratefulness,are not a part of their vocabulary.
Have a good one...
those wto protesters do a great service to people and make their cause look real positive.smart people.
[QUOTE=Torog]The Left,continually promotes hedonism and narcisism QUOTE]
lol, since when? it would be good though... ;)
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
boy,there really are huge mass protests going on arent there?no.at least they can protest if they want without fear of having chemical weapons used against them like saddam did in the early 90's.
you must have just returned from iraq?i know the history channel really gives you a good ear to the iraqi street.have you even been to the middle east in the past two years?or are you just talking out your ass as usual?
It's funny how no matter how much evidence is placed in front of you nose, you can still continue to argue against it with absolutely nothing to back you up except for "funny" pictures.
Torog, you are so damned paranoid! I am liberal. I do not support terrorists. I do not support killing in any way. I dislike America, but I do not support physical attacks on it. Liberals do not automatically oppose America. Liberals do not support terrorism. Terrorists are extreme conservatives in general. The ones blowing people up in Iraq are clearly opposed to the changes. Therefore they are conservative. Grow up, and try using your brain for once, don't just spew your idiotic Southern paranoid bullshit everywhere.
Right on, Kombucha! :):):)
Terrorists are extreme conservatives in general. The ones blowing people up in Iraq are clearly opposed to the changes. Therefore they are conservative. Grow up, and try using your brain for once, don't just spew your idiotic Southern paranoid bullshit everywhere.
perfectly said :)
I'm with you 100%. I don't take sides, either. I fight for what I personally believe in, and I keep to myself. Classification is for the ignorant, who are too numb-skulled to take in and respect all of the differences between every human.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokin2
If a person spends too much time worrying about other people (what they are doing, thinking, feeling etc.), they will ultimately forget themself..
you must have missed it earlier...let me refresh your memory:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kombucha
we own them because we can...what's so hard to understand about that? we still live in a somewhat free society...which also means we are still free to own firearms. period.
You must have missed my point. Amsterdam said that you all need guns to protect yourselves from other guns. Then he said all the gun-crime was in ghettos... That doesn't add up, I simply pointed it out.
Plus, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you have to to. I can stab myself if I want, but I'm not going to. I don't have to recycle, but I still do.
It's called being responsible.
BlueCat said:
<snipped> He [Lincoln] had slaves and was known to use racial slurs a lot...<snipped>
The biggest myth about Lincoln was that he freed all the slaves. Actually Lincoln never did free all the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation only proclaimed the slaves in all territories held by the Confederates free, but didn't free any of the slaves in the North. It also did not apply to the border states and their 300,000 slaves. It was just a political move to get support in Europe and to encourage the slaves to rebel and cause trouble in the South.
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what a bunch of bullshit. i watched the same show and saw absolutely nothing about lincoln being a slave owner. he's from illinois, for christ's sake! that was NOT a slave state! his proclamation stated ALL men are free, no exclusions. what show did you watch? maybe you took too many breaks while it was on and missed what it was all about...
and don't even bring up slavery. it was you europeans who started that shit over here. we ended it. granted it took longer than it should have, but nevertheless, we ended it on our own.
So what? Europeans started it before America even existed. You then continued it for a long time before abolishing it. Britain abolished slavery all over the British Empire in 1833. France abolished slavery in their colonies in 1794. The USA was one of the last to get rid of it, and was still legally racist well into the 1960s.
we continued it for 60 years after becoming free from the royalty and only 27 years after britain...so what's your point? you infused our country with slavery (along with the dutch, portugese and spanish) 100's of years before.
and legally racist??? wtf is that about? as if you all are welcoming the ethinics into your countries today!?!?
sheesh...
stop fighting.. damn.. youre not even debating anything anymore, youre just fighting..
oh, go back to your munchie postings...
Don't worry toker, I love you munchie postings. Yaaaaaaaaaaam?
Howdy del,Quote:
Originally Posted by del...
Thanx for that clarification...
Have a good one !
Howdy U4EUH,Quote:
Originally Posted by U4EUH
My statement: "The fact is,is that muslims,homosexuals and liberals,are all plotting,even as we speak,against America,family values and Christianity. It ain't a theroretical conspiracy either,it's rooted in fact."
It is a factual statement,not only are the anti-American muslims plotting against the US,but the entire Free World,as well..homosexual activists,are international in the scope of their activities,and liberals are always plotting against everyone that is not a liberal. As a veteran,I do not formulate my friend or foe list,based on conspiracies,it is incumbent upon me,to deal in facts..not surround every issue in infinite shades of gray..I have to 'git-r-done'..in order to ensure the safety of America..as a citizen/soldier..and as a father.
Have a good one...
[QUOTE=BUZz UK]Howdy Buzz,Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Since the early '60's..when the modern liberals emerged...'if it feels good--do it...' .
Have a good one ....
Howdy Kombucha,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kombucha
Paranoia,can save your life,if it's a 'healthy' paranoia.
I like these 2 sayings:
" Only the paranoid survive ! "
" 100% paranoia=100% awareness "
As for liberals,they hate Bush,so anyone that attacks Bush and the Right,is their friend..that would mean that terrorists fall into the category of "the enemy of my enemy..is my friend..". Since liberals despise capitalism,that does make them automatic enemies of America..Professor Ward Churchhill revealed the feelings of liberals,when he said " the people in the twin towers,were little eichmann's,that deserved to die.."
It appears that you feel that the only enemy in the world,is Bush and right-wing Americans,if that's so..then I find that it is you,that needs to grow up and face reality.
Btw,do you label the insurgents(cold-blooded,murdering terrorists) in Iraq,as 'freedom fighters' ?
Have a good one...
The problem with liberals in the US is they they spend all of their time attacking conservative ideas and politicians.
Liberals should spend alot more time promoting new and radical ideas for change. Liberals should better communicate what they believe in and not apologize or compromise for their beliefs.
Where are all of the peace/tokers of the 60's and 70's ?? Are they all NOT in politics ?? Or have they compromised their core beliefs. Why are they silent ???
Anyway, BlueCat is a very cool lib, and the Dante's Infreno reference is right on target. I read it in high school (in Italian).
That's not true at all. The ends don't always justify the means. You might not like someone, but if they were murdered you wouldn't be happy would you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
My point is, you made it sound as if you led the world in freeing slaves, when you clearly didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by del...
As for "legally racist," what I mean is the Jim Crow laws, Segregation.
A lot of people don't welcome immigrants (generally those from the Middle East or Eastern Europe) into this country, but it's not based in law, it's just people being idiots.
I'm a twiztid serial killin' bud tokin' juggalo. and thats for life biaaatch.
Torog, I am a liberal and I'm also studying business in college. Your assumption that all liberals are communists and enemies of the state is laughably childish and misguided. Of course, capitalism has great potential to bring good to nations, the shining example of which is the quality of life many Americans enjoy today, being able to buy the latest and greatest goods at low prices driven down by competition. However, only a fool would believe that capitalism is flawless and does not have the ability to hurt nations, a perfect example of which is the inhumane and gruesome child labor at the turn of the century, all in the name of the capitalistic values of producing the most product for the least cost. I don't hate capitalism, as it is the very thing that will allow me to buy a house and raise a family later in life. However, managing it responsibly before it can hurt people is a paramount concern of liberals, and should be for conservatives too. Torog, do you want your children drinking milk with pus in it, just because a company producing a sickening bovine growth hormone is unregulated? These issues affect everybody.Quote:
Since liberals despise capitalism,that does make them automatic enemies of America
I think Thoroau was a true liberal. He was gung hoe for change. He even said he couldn't live the same way for an extended period of time. When he lived at Walden Pond, he left after 2 years becasue he had lived the life and there was nothing more to live.
Don't touch this one...
Don't touch this one....
Don't touch this one...
Is Torog real? Like...hes a real person living some where??
He literally said that people against war are unpatriotic and social engineering. He keeps saying liberals hate capitalism and only like others who trash talk Bush and republicans whilst he is only making stereotypes about 'liberals'...or is it people against war...or homosexuals? Or are they all the same in his eyes?
I think everyone who is liberal/Muslim/anti-war/gay/generally different is evil to Torog.
Howdy Sgt. Pepper,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
I do realize that capitalism is not perfect and that you are justified to be concerned about it's bad side-effects. Man is not perfect and never will be,and is often driven by desire and greed. However,there has to be a balance of regulatory controls,and liberals have a tendency to want to drive up the operating costs of any given company,with excessive regulation or taxation.
I believe that the Left in this country,is so desperate to regain power in the White House,that they'd burn down America,with or without help(muslim jihadists). Certainly,Hillary Clinton has stated on more than one occasion,that she would take more American income away,for her socialist programs that she wants to institute. She would penalize businesses on every level,which would ruin the economy and the job market. A vote for Clinton in '08,would be a vote for a socialist America.
Have a good one....