the tide is turning my friend and i dont think you are gonna like the turn.liberlism is dying here thank god.
my name is amsterdam because i lived there,thats it.
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the tide is turning my friend and i dont think you are gonna like the turn.liberlism is dying here thank god.
my name is amsterdam because i lived there,thats it.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
LOL, so true, so true. If britain once again rose to become the world superpower, I'm sure that everyone would hate them just as much as the world hates America now... it's human nature; jealousy. They just wish they could annihalate the entire world with the push of a button like we can ;)
Amsterdam, how is liberalism dying? Every been to New York? There is a gian mural that says,"bush sucks" same thing in California and many other cities.
ya already know!
i cant wait to hear peoples reaction to this.
The american attitude that people are just jealous of them is dumb. That's what makes the rest of the world hate us, because we think we're superior because where we're born. I dont think tha tway but alot of us do.
we as people are not superior,we as a country are.
that is 100% indesputable, seriously, we have more weapons, more influence, size, population, if we arent #1 we are up there in all of the categorys of a superpowerQuote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
amsterdam, who gives a fuck if your country is superior or not? loving one country is hating another. grow up and realise that nationality doesnt mean shit, we're all equal.
All politicians, whether republican, democrat, or other, are dishonest crooks. It's part of the job. There is simply no way to get ahead in politics by just being the smart, nice guy who always does the right thing. You'd be eaten alive.
That being said, Bush still has no business being President. We went into Iraq because of Bush's own agenda. He did not care how many Americans or Iraqis would die. He did not care how the rest of the world would view us. He wanted to be some Texas bad ass cowboy and be the guy who got Saddam. Period! What bothered me most is that going to war should be the absolute last thing that any President wants while he is in office. Bush wanted it so badly he probably pissed in his pants on 9/11 out of sheer delight that he'd finally have a reason to go after some arabs.
I supported the first Gulf War. We were going to help another country which was helpless against a much stonger invader. Now what makes the US any different from Iraq when it invaded Kuwait? Or Germany when it invaded France, Poland, etc. Sure we had some fucked up reason but so did they. Nobody was right.
So, I vote modern day Hitler . Maybe he isn't attempting genocide (at least as far as we know) but there are a lot of other similarities. Both were/are egomaniacal, charismatic leaders who used lies in order to go to war in the name of patriotism.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/bush-hitler1.mov
You realize he is responding to the quite brainless fanatasism that like 85% of the people on this forum have right? The fact that all these foriegners are bashing a country they probably have never been to drags them to the same level we are supposedly at for being patriotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
WOW! Someone who actually understands the political system we have! Congrats on having common sense my fine friend!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
Correction: we went into Iraq on the agenda of the republican party, and if you remember, congress did vote overwhelmingly to send us to Iraq... it was a response to 9/11, and at the same time deposes a brutal dictator who would be willing to use WMD's if he ever got them, as the government knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
Did you see the man's face as he sat in that classroom after he was told of what happened? To me he looked devastated. I'm sure he cares about the death and suffering caused by conflict, but those are kind of hard decisions a president has to make. I'm sure Truman had many sleepless night knowing of the suffering WWII was casuing Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
So it's okay to go to war to save one country from another, but not save a country's own people from it's ruthless leader and his nuclear ambitions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
OK, first off, this whole thing about "he lied he lied" has not been proven, people just assume that because they found no WMD's... perhaps they are telling the truth, that thier intelligence really did say that. Comparing any American president to Hitler is just stupid, and I'm not even going to comment on that ignorant statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fengzi
let em rant,i get a kick out of it!
the deep seeded anti-americanism is astonishing.most dont even see or understand it.sad,but always good for a laugh.
Come on Hydrizzle, the republican party just follows Bush like obedient puppies. That's a huge problem with politics today. Everyone just follows party lines. They're so busy with being republicans or being democrats that they forget that they should be serving the people. Congress believed their president and was acting on false informationQuote:
Originally Posted by Hydrizzle
What you took as devastation I took as cluelessness; "Uh, what do I do now...?" Plus, it is know that Bush anxiously asked if Iraq was beind 9/11 and when told there was no evidence it was he said to look again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrizzle
Saving a country from its own ruthless leaders with the goal of helping the people who live there is a noble idea. But that's not why we were/are there. If it was we'd be a lot of other places too. Ever hear of Rwanda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrizzle
Yes, perhaps. But he should of made damn sure before he went to war. I firmly believe his eagerness to get Saddam seriously clouded his vision. Maybe he didn't lie but I doubt he wanted to know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrizzle
You got me here, you are right. Hitler was an evil man, plain and simple. Goerge Bush may be dishonest, incompetant, and use some of Hitler's tactics but he is not evil. To say there are similarities is one thing, to say they are the same is ludicrous. My dislike of Bush clouded my vision, much like Bush's dislike of Saddam clouded his. Fortunately I don't command the strongest army in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrizzle