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so looks like we are off red alert...Someone used my pictures to attempt to build a case against me, pretty sure i narrowed it down to the snake, but my lawyer will soon be able to tell me whose name is on the search warrant as a the affidavit witness so soon will know who cant be trusted. Cops came to my house and went thru all my paperwork and my gardens and such. Was very very lucky as my plant count is much higher then 99 plants...but I have all my ducks in a row at the state level and it was obvious to the cops I was following the guidelines, if not the letter of the law. I was issued a stern warning to keep my pzperwork in order and keep saving my patients receipets from when the buy soil/nutes/ pay the electric bill etc and a stern warning that I am risking a lot by my current plant counts. I have taken the 4x3 tent done and took nearly 400 clones to the club and vendored them. I probably didnt need to do that, but I am now at exactly 99 plants + some seedlings. So we still on alert, so i will just be posting pics of the flower tent. Hopefully though out of the woods.
Thank you guys for your concern though,
papa
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What sweet relief! Its a shame about the clones though, but in a way, for now you get a double bonus; the rush you get from being 'cleared' by the cops, & a little bit of time for yourself so you can enjoy that rush. Dont have to tell you to be careful, do I. I have a friend on another forum who just got raided. 7 plants & two clones, & they're threatening TIME. Just 7 little plants. He's such a good person who always thinks of others & they're raking him through the coals & ruining his reputation, basically treating him like shit. Hurts my heart to see bad things happen to good people. I'm glad 'they' came & got it over with & now you're in the clear (but being watched, I'm sure). So I can officially thake you off my 'worry list!' My friend is in Pa & I'm in Md. Both have tough laws. The big difference is, Md rarely give the max time, but Pa does. I would like to be there for him on his court day & give him a hug before trial. I think some of us living close to him from the other forum (or all the forums, actually) should get together & be at the trial for him. That may even get the judges attention! Think I'll hop over to the other forum now & PM the friends we have in common & see if I can organize something!
-- Just wanted to say WHEEeew! Dodged a bullet! Stay safe & good luck! :) :) :)
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thanks for the support guys, it sure helps knowing I am not the only person in my corner. In other happy news. the plants are really looking amazing, will post pics when lights come on. Got some very exotic smells coming out now :)
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As usual, your picks are awesome! I just noticed you use photobucket. I do too, but still can't figure out how to get pics from there to here. Apparently its not something you can do from a cell phone. Guess I need a computer.
-- So glad the scare is over. I'm so tired of prohibition I could scream! It just ruins the life of so many good people. I've had friends on other forums, posting 3-4 times a day, every day just, suddenly disappear. One friend had just posted pics & was so excited to be harvesting the next day. We waited & waited. That was his last post ever. He posted more than anyone I've ever seen, he wouldn't have abandoned his grow logs & friends. He was disabled & lived on our forum. Had the most beautiful plants you'd ever want to see. Outdoor grow, 9 fat indica bushes with huge, dense buds. Doesnt take a genius to figure out what happened to him.
-- Enough of the sad stuff! I'm following this to the harvest. I know its going to AWESOME! (Know we'll be seeing tons of buds, how about 'scratch & sniff' pics?!) Lots of luck! ~~~PEACE!~~~
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As usual, your picks are awesome! I just noticed you use photobucket. I do too, but still can't figure out how to get pics from there to here. Apparently its not something you can do from a cell phone. Guess I need a computer.
-- So glad the scare is over. I'm so tired of prohibition I could scream! It just ruins the life of so many good people. I've had friends on other forums, posting 3-4 times a day, every day just, suddenly disappear. One friend had just posted pics & was so excited to be harvesting the next day. We waited & waited. That was his last post ever. He posted more than anyone I've ever seen, he wouldn't have abandoned his grow logs & friends. He was disabled & lived on our forum. Had the most beautiful plants you'd ever want to see. Outdoor grow, 9 fat indica bushes with huge, dense buds. Doesnt take a genius to figure out what happened to him.
-- Enough of the sad stuff! I'm following this to the harvest. I know its going to AWESOME! (Know we'll be seeing tons of buds, how about 'scratch & sniff' pics?!) Lots of luck! ~~~PEACE!~~~
thanks man :) yea, scares over. thank god I have my ducks in a row and a really good lawyer on my side. That is one really great thing, brothers are brothers even after we take the uniform off so I have truly been blessed with some amazing guys in my corner who go to bat for me. Photobucket is a pain in the ass to use to be honest, however, they are one of the few companies who still requires a warrant to grant information. Microsoft skydrive is even better with their privacy and will even notify you if a warrant was served. but its a even bigger pain in the ass putting up more then 2-3 pics. I like to be pic heavy so it doesnt work.
If only scratch n sniff! they are getting smelly thats for damn sure!
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Glad all turned out for you!! Like you said earlier, a snake must get close to bite you.
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So my lawyer finally got the name of the person listed as the material witness to get the search warrant to come to my gardens. It was exactly who I expected it was. One of my non military patients card expired a few months back, and so I told him if he wanted to stay apart of the collective he must renew his script. He donated some soil to this current tent grow. I told him I would even pay half his doctors fee. Think they are charging 45 now at the clinic, so its not even like its much money. So anyways, he called me a few weeks back and wanted to get some medicine and find out how the crop is doing. I asked if he had gotten his script renewed...long pause...I ask again...he finally says no. I say you know how this works, no script and I cant give you bud, I work very hard to keep my ducks in a row so, that I can be as open about my work as I am. He starts getting huffy puffy and I said look man, I even offered to pay half, lets go right now and get your card and then we have no problems. He refused. So I said sorry bro, no script no bud no exceptions. If you cannot respect that and spend 20 bucks to be legal, then you to and I have no reason to even be involved. Obviously he got very butt hurt and like a little girl..he went to the police, showed them my grow logs. All my collective members follow on Rollitup.org as part of them being involved and seeing the whole process. I know this is unusual but it means a lot to both them and me to be able to all see the plants grow and develop. Its much more fun to smoke something you saw grow up. At least to me.
Sorry for the rant, just wanted to fill in the blanks for everyone watching
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That's not a rant, that's telling it like it is! What an ass! I'm so sorry you got tied up with such a jerk! You should put his name out there to any other mmj growers you may know, just incase he gets a new card. Keep him in his place & help keep him from doing that to anybody else ( oh I don't know. Maybe stick a cattle prod up his ass for good measure)! I can't stand people who thinks the world was born to kiss their ass. Glad you found out & glad you were right on to begin with. Always trust your instincts. I know you feel better finding out for sure. Ties up loose ends. Breathe easy my friend, this will probably make the cops less likely to listen to anybodys hype & bull shit in the future. ~~~PEACE!~~~
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Yea he fucked with the wrong group of people...you dont come between a group of combat veteran rangers and try to get one of their brothers in trouble and try to get their med supply messed with. Obviously not gonna go into details, but he learned his lesson. It was quite humorous to, you could tell right when I was explaining myself to the cops it kinda clicked into they head what I am about and I think they realized they were sent on a private venditta search against someone helping the military community. They honestly were really professional, which if you have ever had to be in this situation, is a major plus. I have had my gardens searched before, but last time my exwife and I were in zip ties on the deck outside my house for a few hours while they tore my house apart and we treated like criminals.
anyways, kinda over the negative energy, lets move on and get back to oogling some ever fattening sexy buds shall we?
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Sometimes a good ass whipping is in order, but from a legal view point, I can see you need to keep your nose clean. So I'm hoping some of your brothers used him for the ass wipe that he is & flushed him down the toilet! I've no use for thieves & snitches, except maybe target practice. Oh wait... I can't do that anymore cause the thieves got my guns!
-- Glad to hear buds are swelling. Nice to have something pleasant & beautiful to look at, its a great stress buster. Not quite as good as smoking it, but gettin' there! Looking forward to your next group of pics, they're always awesome! :)
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Here is a nice little video for everyone watching out there. We are at day 20, things are looking great. I fed some biobizz nutes again, they are really eating it up. I am starting to see the heavy feeders in the heavy feeders in the group. The fubar and the blue cheese and the vornick and the Jamaican dream are really wanting the nutes. The fubar is looking a bit yellow so gave it some double strength nutes. All in all, very happy with the way the tent is progressing. anyway, take a seat grab some popcorn, lit a blunt and enjoy the show!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XD7B...ature=youtu.be
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Awesome video! But you have to have hot chocolate with popcorn! (& some baby dill pickles!) A lot of diversity there. Must really keep you busy adjusting the lights! I'll be 60 next month, Valentine's day, use a cane, kinda gimpy & have to try & have all of mine close to the same size because of my lack of mobility. I was gifted 60 seeds of 3 awesome varities & then nearly had an anxiety attack trying to decide which one to plant first! (Went with bubblegum X blueberry).
-- Nice operation you have going there. So glad to see you smile in the face of adversity, & to go on as strong as ever! That's a good thing youre doing for those who depend on you! ~~~PEACE! ~~~
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Awesome pics and video as usual! Nice to see pics of (what looks to me to be) mainlining outside of the how-to. Your plants always look so happy and healthy.
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yea youre not fucking around....
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thanks guys. Yea I been doing the whole grow scene nearly a decade now, and my grandfather raised me for a while on a huge farm that fed a good portion of the county in oregon so I definitely was raised up to have a green thumb. To be honest, greenhouse are my real passion/skill set... so yall just wait till you see what I do under the sun :)
This round is going much better then expected, especially since this flower tent is all new and am adjusting things as we go. A big part of it though is having the right genetics, the strains I got from breeders boutique and the grower hemlock from RUI are some of the best genetics I have laid eyes on. A strong plant wants to flower, and wants to be healthy, and wants to get big and dense, all you gotta do is remove the obstacles and she will reward you. No matter how much research you do, I have yet to see even one bad experience from breeders boutique seeds, and 90% the people I see run them are customers for life. I know I will never spend another dollar on one more clone or seed unless its from BB. Another key I found to growing is growing as close to nature as possible. You dont need to run 24/0 lighting, or spend 500 dollars per cycle on expensive name brand nutes and snake oils. Once I stopped buying into the commercial ideas behind growing cannabis, I saw huge healthy plants that didnt cycle between nute burn/ph burn/nute hungry etc.
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Awesome pics and video as usual! Nice to see pics of (what looks to me to be) mainlining outside of the how-to. Your plants always look so happy and healthy.
I actually dont mainline. Its a great idea, and it makes some very sexy colas and plants, Its just not how I like to grow. I prefer to train to add more budsites, not to train to remove budsites. I top early, then supercrop the 2 tops down, after it sends usually 5-10 new heads and are growing nice, I top those heads. Depending on veg time will determine how many times I do this. This cycle was a bit more rushed, so most the plants flowering now were just topped a few times.
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also, since I am doing a large seed run with unknown phenotypes I didnt do much training, as i want to see how each plant grows/nodes up and then decide my mothers based on that, and then after that I will push the plants to the limits.
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[QUOTE=papapayne. i want to see how each plant grows/nodes up and then decide my mothers based on that, and then after that I will push the plants to the limits.[/QUOTE]
Gotta love it, when a plan comes together!! Really excellent!
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these are from week 3 :) enjoy!
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Where did the led's go? Sorry if I missed it while drooling over pictures.
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Yeah, you just keep making us drool.... God! We're a soggy mess! ;)
So how's the fragrance? I'm still waiting for samsung to make a scratch & sniff screen! ;) ;) ;)
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BEAUTIFUL! All of them gorgeous, but that second pic is right up my alley. You know I love the indicas!
-- I'm bringing a friend over from his grow thread. He's a noobe & his plants are purpling. I explained why, & him & another friend had questions about cloning from a female in bud. I told him it they can be much slower & often not take. But I can't get a handle on posting pics from photobucket AT ALL & I think your pics & post can be a great learning guide for these guys. They were already great gardeners. Its just their first time with the herb. I wouldn't have anything to show them from this grow anyway. Still young & starting to preflower. The guys I'm sending over are OMB, d00g, & Chromophore. I think Chrom's been here before. ?
-- So any way, when you started this thread, did you know you'd end up becoming a mentor? :) As usual, I enjoyed your post. It was delicious! ;)
Oops! I see d00gs been here! I like bring people to your thread ;)
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I have no problem mentoring :) I learned a lot from better growers then me, and it was the single biggest help to my skills as a grower. I still ask opinions from more skilled growers then me, its something that never goes outta style :) I dont like taking clones from flowering plants, and usually consider it luck when they root. The trick is definitely take them as quick into flower as possible, the further in you go the less likely the will root and the longer it takes. I prefer to reveg, and if theses clones dont root, I will reveg the mothers I took them from. I am hoping they root though, would like them to have a lot of time to reveg and get big for outdoor season.
I will post more individual plant shots tomorrow, knee was aching from moving them back and forth. (i watered yesterday so pots are a bit heavy)
It was next to impossible to capture the purples with my crappy camera, but the black sour bubble x casey x sour cherry is amazingly purple. the temps in my tent are VERY low, at night they drop to 63 and lights on is barely 75 so really expecting some very nice color shots soon.
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Where did the led's go? Sorry if I missed it while drooling over pictures.
The led tents are no longer being pictured due to security concerns. Figured u guys would rather see my flower tent then the led veg tent non stop lol
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Oh my.... so you're gonna take it outside? Gonna, like have them right out in the sunshine? Not have to bend them up, tie them down & hid them in the trees? You mean, you're gonna let them get BIG? The way nature intended? Alow them to bask in the open sun, reveling in all their splendour???? I CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS!!!
See guys..... this is as it should be. Free from oppression. .. free from fear & free from, well.. just FREE! Pappa, I don't know where you are, but it sure in the hell ain't Maryland! Maybe someday soon. I keep hoping, signing petitions & writing letters & hoping some more. What you are doing makes you a true pioneer. One of the first generation to grow & produce mmj LEGALLY! Damned! But that must be a good feeling! Many smiles to you my friend! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Yeah. When the nights are cool, especially when they are reaching maturity, it effects their ability to use/absorb phosphorus (& some other nutes).They undergo some beautiful color changes at times. Just like the trees. I know some growers who just aren't happy till they see the 'rainbow', even droping night temps in their grow rooms to get it. Mother nature's quite the artist. :)
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Yeah. When the nights are cool, especially when they are reaching maturity, it effects their ability to use/absorb phosphorus (& some other nutes).They undergo some beautiful color changes at times. Just like the trees. I know some growers who just aren't happy till they see the 'rainbow', even droping night temps in their grow rooms to get it. Mother nature's quite the artist. :)
Strange, I was researching colors yesterday, saw a lot that talked about genetics, and also DNA engineering... Is purple pot gmo? The articles I read seemed to be sketchy with details.
Wow the pictures are simply crystaliscious.... Can't wait til we can all have that freedom... Like cat said....
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GMO to get the purple, I hope not. Genetics and breeding is what I hope.
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GMO to get the purple, I hope not. Genetics and breeding is what I hope.
That's what I hope too, but I saw conflicting articles, there seems to be a gene that is triggered by temps as cat said, only the origins of that gene are a little murky with articles saying it's completely natural from Afghani strains I think and others saying it was engineered outside the US.... You never really know the truth...the fact that the purple strains are open pollinated obviously weigh in favor of a natural gene though.... I'm just too curious for my own good sometimes...
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I'm just too curious for my own good sometimes...
Probably not, unless your cat.
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Ah... there is a lot of conflict, but genetics make pretty colored hairs with matching caylaxs. Sure there's some in nature, but its bumped up through selective breeding. The afghanies? They ARE genetically pre disposed to turn purple as they mature & the nights chill. Lots of indica dominants have this characteristic. You see it in the leaves & calyx. Even thought they are predisposed to do this, its still an indicator of ripening & maturity & cool nights are the triggers. Won't go into it here on Pappas thread, but a discussion in landraces & their history would answer a lot of questions. I have a friend on another forum that would blow your socks off on this subject. Follow me to my thread & I'll tell you about him.
-- Papapayne, I'm so sorry we sucked up your thread! Its so hard for a ratchet jaw like me to just STFU sometimes! But follow us over to my camper closet grow for the info on this guy. Everything about his grow, ethics & ideas are very interesting! :) (& he can give a history lesson that will not disappoint)! ;)
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God, here I go with the science again. Forgive me. The purple is not the result of GMO, though that doesn't mean someone hasn't tried engineering. That trait has been described for a very long time, especially in strains from colder climates, ie Indicas. Purple in leaves comes from a class of pigments called anthocyanins. Anthocyanins do not participate in photosyntheses like Chlorophyll. They are primarily used by the plant to absorb harmful or useless wavelengths of light. Typically we don't see them because they are found in relatively small quantities, and the coloring from Chlorophylls swamps out their presence. But under certain types of stress, like nutrient or water deficiency, they may appear, because chlorophylls are being exhausted, usually to provide a source of Nitrogen and Magnesium. This is why leaves of hardwoods change color in the fall. The greens disappear as light and water fade, and you're left with purples, reds and yellows from all the "accessory" pigments, like anthocyanins and carotenoids. Anthocyanins belong to a larger class of biomolecules called flavonoids, which are powerful defense compounds. They protect the plant from oxidative stresses and UV damage. They are a good thing, and there is no need to engineer them in, they're already there. They just appear more frequently in strains and/or conditions where certain stresses are occurring. Frankly I'm concerned because my plants are entering week 8 of flowering and they're still all bright green!
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Frankly I'm concerned because my plants are entering week 8 of flowering and they're still all bright green!
Might stop feeding and babying them for a while, now. Like you said, it's a natural process
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Correct, purple comes from both strains and temps. For instance, I used to run purple gorilla indoor/outdoors. It turn OMG purple reguardless of temps. Both leaves and the actual bud caylaxes. Now on the other hand, my jack herer will turn purple if night temps are in the 60s. Generally speaking people breed to get colors. I used to run a landrace sative called kiwi. It had no joke, pink hairs and pink buds. no white hairs. they were pink, and when plant was done they turned deep red. Was a very pretty strain, but it took 13 weeks to flower and wasn't on par yield wize. I do like purple strains, and people do go nuts to get purple bud, but usually the more purple it is the less it yields or the less potency it has. I have yet to see a high yield color changer that has good potency. 2/3 is the best you usually get lol. The kings kush I ran outdoor was probably the closest I got, 50 gallon trash can netted me 6 pounds of dense sticky maple syrup flavored purple buds. 6 pounds is a good amount, but similar sized plants gave my 8 pounds.
Now then, as for my outdoor this year. Picture 2-3 10 x 20 carport greenhouses line up together, 12 plants per greenhouse planted in 4x4x4 holes. my main greenhouse plants are already in 2 gallons topped 10+ times supercroped trained etc and 2 footers....so ya buddy, strap into them seats, its gonna be a fun ride! I am prob gonna run my blue cheese and jamiacan dreams outside no greenhouse (READ: SUPER MASSIVE). They are super quick flower times so they should be done before the frost hits. i am expecting 150+ pound this year outdoor. LEts all cross our fingers !
