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Thats a happy group of girls there - they've really come along well and look good under the lights. Loving those rollers under the buckets.
Today I worked on the three younger flowering plants. I am working towards a monthly harvest so that have enough medicine to last without it getting old.
These three are scheduled to come to ripeness about a month behind OG Larry Kush.
Today I decided to bend them significantly. This new structure will enlarge the canopy by 100% to 200%. It will take a little time for the plants to infill, however I expect a massive amount of growth to occur during this first month of flowering.
Essentially I am taking the techniques I used while bending OG Larry Kush 1, and I am making some adjustments. Specifically I topped this plant to make four branches and I am now bending the four branches out like an elongated X. This will allow me to pot the plant in the center of the 15 gallon.
I wasn't able to access your pics until a couple days ago. You really have a great looking set-up and the plants look great. Right now, it's almost 90 degrees in my closet. I look forward to being able to convert to the LED's. I'll be following your grow (for educational purposes :) ).
There are quite a few benefits to LED. Temperature for one is easier to manage without a portable AC. I also do not have to worry about burning the leaves which means I can mist as often as the plants need. I also like being able to move my lights anywhere from a couple of feet away to a few inches away. I still think the greatest advantage is the real financial savings that comes from using much less power.Quote:
Originally Posted by stjr2k
I also have support lights that are not LED, however they are all fairly cool.
I have been working towards a better cloning solution that would ensure near 100% survival rate. At first I was very unhappy with the little seedling humidity chamber I had. The thing was warped and made of cheap plastic. I then tried to use some little pots and grow clones in my veg room. I filled the soil with xs water like a bog. This worked, but the pots would dry when i was gone for more than 24 hours thus leading to death.
So I decided on aeroponics. With a bit of effort I have put together an aeroponics cloning chamber. The footprint of the space I had available was limiting, and thus i dedcided to build one inside a 5 gallon bucket. The system is setup with 10 sprinklers that ensure an excellent mist inside the unit.
The water temp. seems to be around 84 degrees. I would like to bring this down a bit, but a friend of mine says that this is an ok temperature. Any confirmation or disagreement about this topic would be great. I am still not 100% sure.
I made the unit to hold about 3 gallons of water, and I also built an overflow bucket so that any malfunction or failure would end with all of the water being contained by the unit itself.
Ther are still several improvements needed in the design. Since I made it in a 5 gallon bucket, i also bought 6 lids. This makes the cost of each revisioin less than two dollars! I will post some photos soon, but want to wait until I do a bit more work on it.
Im really impressed with the growth your getting out of those LEDs. :thumbsup:
the only thing that concerns me is that it looks like you have at least a 1000$ worth of led lighting, when you could probably have the same growth with one 400 watt HID. Leds intrigue me, but with their initial cost they seem like a ripoff.
LEDs are a fairly long-term investment, with a typical expected repeat customer turnaround time of 5-10 years with the expected lifespan of the product. That's why they're so expensive, 5-10 years is a LONG time to wait for repeat business.Quote:
Originally Posted by drudown11
LED lighting is also much more energy efficient leading to lower monthly energy costs; this can definitely add up fast. I've probably spent close to $2000 on lighting by now. I went into it knowing that the upfront is high and the technology is not 100% proven, but I am loving this setup!Quote:
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Hi,
Thanks for reviewing my post and photos. Today I have decided to provide some information about some of the most unique mutations that I have come across so far.
If you know of a good way to preserve leaves etc... I would be greatly appreciative for the guidance. I am interested in preserving all three of these mutant leaves.
10 Blade Mutant MMJ Leaf: Features one additional blade growing on the vertical axis!
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11 Blade Mutant MMJ Leaf: Features two additional blades growing on the vertical axis.
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MMJ Leaf Growing a Flower: An obvious flower grows from the leaf, not the plant!
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Thanks!
The mutant leaves, press between two sheets of wax paper and iron.
The one with the flower coming straight from the center of the leaf, let that baby go and go until there's a fat nug on it! Take pictures, drop that sucker inside a batch of acrylic resin and make yourself the world's most awesome paperweight out of it.
Some Stuff I Found Interesting
Gravitropic: A gravitropic cell can sense gravity and then grow either towards or away from it.
Phototropic: A phototropic cell can sense light and then grow either towards or away from it.
It sounds like Marijuana is both. I wonder what percent of the plants "movement" is determined by each individual factor. I would assume the light signal overrides the gravity sense.
HaRvEsTiNgMyOgLaRrYlAtErToDaYyAy!
Most plants are both, actually, with the major exception being algae or cyanobacteria, and multiple types of vine plants.Quote:
Originally Posted by omnibuddy
More updates; more lost posts...
Yeah thats frustrating :( but on a brighter note how did your OG Larry turn out??
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Nice! Shame about the lost posts but this happens often, even on my own forums. Problems with hardware, (or in the case of many sites the Amazon EC2 cloud or other cloud services screwing up) and other stuff just makes this inevitable, despite how well you try to maintain backups.
:clap: well done thats a good haul
I am very happy with OG Larry. I compared it up close to 4 top shelf California MMJ strains that run $385/oz.Quote:
Originally Posted by rattlingdags
The amount of crystals is impressive, although it is important to note that this strain is also known for this feature. I felt that the nugs look equal to and/or better than the nugs I compared it to.
In total i cropped:
18 grams of shake (weighed)
- Includes some popcorn
- Includes all leaves with lots of crystals
- Includes all trimmings from the buds
- Does not include kief which was removed before weighing
4 grams of kief (estimated)
- This is kief from the shake only. It is green kief, not golden.
- The kief smokes deliciously potent. I am a regular kief smoker and really enjoy adding the OG Larry kief to some GDP or other indica dominant strain to get a nice mix of effects.
5 ounces of buds (estimated)
- I am confident that the final weigh in will be from 4 to 6 ounces; most likely to be near 5 ounces. This is a nice yield, although I am confident that it can be increased more as I learn more and improve my techniques.
- This was estimated by eye. I simply took into account that my density is within normal parameters and counted the nugs. I made sure to estimate conservatively so as not to go over in my estimate.
YAY!
Next month I crop three plants and I hope to get 10 oz total from the three since one is smaller.
YAY!
Since my system has gone through many stages of upgrades over the last few months, I thought I would post a bit more information about the setup.
This is a diagram I made to represent my flowering area. As you can see it is a heavily LED dominant setup with T5 and UVB support.
I am currently growing bushy plants in a dense area of about 4ft by 5ft.
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LED units are only putting out 80W to 90W, so the breakdown is:
(3) 120W Purple Dual Band LEDs @ No Less Than 240W Realized Light
(1) 120W Blue Quad Band LED @ No Less Than 80W Realized Light
(6) 24W UVB @ 144W Realized Light
(2) 4ft T5s with (2) 54W 3000K T5 Bulbs In Each @ 216W Realized Light
(4) 2ft T5s with (1) 24W 300K T5 In Each @ 96W Realized Light
Totals Realized Watts for Flower Lighting: 776
Running Flowering Time of 12/12
OG Larry Curing
Today I cut the stems out and began curing. I am going to try to cure in pint size canning jars.
I plant to cure for four weeks.
The weigh-in today was 2.9 oz.
I've been trying to decide what plants to continue growing. Right now there are some clear losers and clear winners.
OG Larry (Yes)
Turned out very nicely and I will definitely keep this one going.
Jillybean (Yes)
female (I keep checking for herm) but is growing with amazing vigor compared to it's five neighbors.
Pineapple Punch (Yes)
One of these plants is pretty pitiful. It is puny in size and will definitely not be grown again. The second Pineapple Punch was doing very well. It had an amazingly thick and strong stem and nice growth. Unfortunately this one hermed due to mite poisons. I have a non-hermed clone taken earlier on and will give this strain one more chance.
707 Headband (No)
Just isn't my style so I won't continue this strain.
Sage OG (Probably Not)
seems to have short dense nugs. I guess the weigh in will be more telling.
Lavender (Undecided)
Undecided
Vortex (Yes)
A very fast grower and nice looking plant. This one has some potential.
I am setting up some new T5 lighting in the flowering room.
I have 10 of the 24w 3000k 2ft T5 lights. I have decided to wall mount them as a ring around the sides of the grow space. This should allow for larger buds on the lower portions of the plant.
Its great to read how well OG Larry turned out, you'll have to give us a smoke report after she's done curing :) You've really grown some different strains there and I always find it interesting to see which ones suit different people and why.
I'm trying to decide a similar thing too at the moment. I love my Kandahar but there's 2 distinct phenotypes - tall and leggy or short and stocky - and its a matter of which one to carry on with that suits our grow space (both smoke great).
Are you able to post up some pics of your flower room upgrade? I'm curious to see how much difference adding the T5's will make, its not something I've done yet and its always interesting to see if its worthwhile trying.
Hi Rattlingdags,Quote:
Originally Posted by rattlingdags
Here is a photo of my Flowering setup. As you can see there are (10) 24w T5 lights wrapping the chamber.
Good stuff!
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IMHO my friend you need to drop those LED lights closer. You are not getting much penetration from what looks like 18 inches away, considering my big panels are only as intense as the sun from 9-10 inches.
I definitely agree. I am struggling with this issue because it is hard and time consuming to raise and lower my lights. Unfortunately, because of the tight space, I found I needed the height so I can lean over and squeeze in there to manage the plants.Quote:
Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
I think creating a new system to hang the lights would help. I have been considering PVC piping. Then I can support the lights from a PVC structure instead of from the ceiling.
I also saw some pulley cords made to hang lights. I have a friend that is using some from the hydro shop, and it was a simple and convenient design. It would possibly make raising and lowering lights daily an easier process...
Any recommendations to better automate raising and lowering a large number of lights?
Over at a friend's house I built a multi-light rack from some cedar, then put it on those light yo-yo pulleys. Picture included.
Wow thats some set up you put tpgether for your freind Khyberkitsune,Its always interesting to see the difference in knowledge that some of you americans have compared to us Irish when setting up grow rooms.