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There is another solution which can avoid re-potting in the event that you are not ready to re-pot. Take a drill with a 1/8" bit and drill holes in the pots randomly around the pot. This will aerate the soil sufficiently and permit drainage. You'll also encourage air pruning which will promote a denser root ball. Let us know how it turns out. Pictures help! ;)
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Emmie...the MG soil is not a debacle, nor are MG nutes...it's fine if you realize what it is, what is in it, what is not and deal with it accordingly...the vermiculite in the bottom is not the end of the world either, although perlite would have been better. There's no need to layer the soil in pots or any of that jazz...keep it simple...KISS! We'll say the second "s" is for silly:wtf: or maybe stoned:stoned:...there are nutes in the soil so you don't have to worry about that....vermiculite made the over watering worse, but now you're aware of that also, so definitely do not over water now...this could actually be good training for you on the tendency to over water...LOL! ;)...just deal with the things that pop up in the simplest manner possible....there is no need to be flushing and layering and adding this or that, or re-potting every other week...just lightly water them and let them grow...Remember the KISS principle...these are weeds after all...Your being a helicopter mom! Now back off and leave them kids alone....you....yes you....stand still laddie...sorry, that last rip and the PF playing made me lose it...LOL! :smokin:
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An example of just how tough the weed is. I pulled a male without thought to what was left, and threw it out back. It had been pretty rainy and cold, but that darn plant managed to root again into the ground and kept growing....I had to 'kill' it again a month later when I noticed it when the weather got better.
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LOOKIN good so far EM! yea i always over water when i use soil so its for sure a learning process all the time. Your WW are looking good. Nice and green vegitation. One of my all time FAVIOTE STRAINS!!! there gonna be beautiful in full bloom! time is patients EM! everything will pull through for you! Got me seat pulled up!
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
An example of just how tough the weed is. I pulled a male without thought to what was left, and threw it out back. It had been pretty rainy and cold, but that darn plant managed to root again into the ground and kept growing....I had to 'kill' it again a month later when I noticed it when the weather got better.
wow! That is really amazing! I probably didn't kill these little ones yesterday then.
I was very worried about mine. Everyone was showing horrible yellowing and obviously screaming at me to fix something. Every leaf was affected at that point and if they were not yellow, they were a very sickly looking light green. I pulled the worst looking one and replanted her in a new 1 gal nursery pot with Happy Frog soil. The root structure was appalling. There was no root ball and very little dirt tried to cling to the few roots that were there. There was very sparse root development except at the very bottom of the pot and 90% of all the roots were concentrated in the vermiculite at the very bottom of the clay pot and were sitting in the stale water trapped there. No wonder we were turning yellow and starting to die.
I have repotted everyone now after seeing that. I tried hard to keep all the roots intact and spread them vertically in the new soil. After 12 hours, everyone is still standing tall and not wilting... We will see what happens in a few days but I am hopeful that we are now back on the right track. I also expanded the grow area quite a bit with the assembly of a new 4x4 Sun Hut. Now... after all this, I am going to work on my patience and just watch them for a few days with no more meddling. Live and learn. I will be so much better at this on the next round.
Here are the pictures!
#4, don't freak... thats dirt on her leaves... I will clean her off in a bit
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...6-day-23-4.jpg
#3, yellow but still standing!
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...7-day-23-3.jpg
#2, yellow in her indifference... fitting in with the crowd better though
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...8-day-23-2.jpg
#1, still sporting those dark green new leaves, but really suffering down below
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...9-day-23-1.jpg
Happy New Year Everyone!
Emmie
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Your being a helicopter mom! Now back off and leave them kids alone....you....yes you....stand still laddie...
lol... I am trying :) :thumbsup:
Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry. Mother's gonna make all of your nightmares come true. Mother's gonna put all of her fears into you. Mother's gonna keep you right here under her wing. She won't let you fly, but she might let you sing. Mama will keep baby cozy and warm. Ooooh babe, ooooh babe, oooooh babe, Of course Mama's gonna help build the wall.
Emmie
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It's good to see your back on track Emmie. You've learned from this..we've all learned from this, but just as importantly, think of all the people in the future that will see this and learn from it also.:thumbsup:
btw, When I was younger we used to toss the seeds out the window at a favorite hangout, and then find full size plants growing. Hell we even had a plant that started growing in the back seat of a VW!!
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Atta girl Emmie! I love PF when I'm blazed, but I'm sure I ain't the only one...:D
Speaking of the hardiness of these plants, I had an old nissan (so old it was actually a datsun!) red p/u truck we used to call the lil red party wagon:thumbsup:...it had a sliding rear window which is where all the seeds went when we cruised around getting high many years ago...needless to say they all wound up in the bed, which was full of junk, rust and dirt and old mulch and whatever else happened to be in there and it sat in the treeline of the farm where all the junk stuff goes when we're done with it, or it's done with us, and was left alone to rust away...A year later I was out there clearing brush and bush hogging down the tree line and looked over and there was not just a few plants in the bed growing...it was a friggin sea of green!!! The whole bed of this lil party wagon was full of two footers growing like gangbusters in what had to be the absolute worst for soil conditions and neglect...old motor oil and grease and dead leaves and what have you...I hate to say this, but I was not growing at the time and I shot them all dead with round up before somebody else saw them...:(
If they want to grow for ya, it's hard to stop 'em!:jointsmile:
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I am pleased to report that everyone seems to be surviving the transplant. Not just that, but I am seeing now a trend toward more green instead of yellow. On #1 the first true leaves seem to be beyond repair, but after seeing how remarkably well these weeds withstand abuse, I will wait to report that it is casting aside the worst victims of my ineptitude. These unfortunate leaves are a crisp looking yellowish with hints of purple in some of the worst spots. At the base of these great leaves is still a patch of green, and there lies my hope of recovery in the new soil.
Overnight I see that not only did they all not wilt in reaction to the upheaval, but they are starting to raise up toward the light again, which must be a healthy sign. I can not discern any new growth at this point, but I suspect that most of the activity is now below the surface where a proper root structure is being engineered. I have been thinking about the suggestion that Bigsby gave us of drilling holes around the sides of the pot to encourage a more defined root ball. Why is it not common to put holes in the sides of our containers and could this do anything other than help with aeration?
Lastly, I have been looking closely at #3. Remember the aloof and haughty look? The not being quite the same as the others? When I look at the family all together I see a definite sibling relationship between all the others, 1, 2 and 4. Our #3 is starting to make me think that she is not of the same strain... that she is an adoptee from another family. I am very curious about this one and will be watching closely to see if she continues to look different than the rest. She also seemed to withstand the abuse better than the others, she maintained much more green and still seems to have healthy cotyledons whereas all the others have shriveled up at least one if not both of the cotyledons. Curiouser and curiouser cried Alice...
Here are the pictures!
First, the curious case of the widow imposter? Our proud #3
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...8-day-24-3.jpg
#4, the one that used to be called "The Runt" :thumbsup:
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...7-day-24-4.jpg
#2, looking good, starting to green up again
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...9-day-24-2.jpg
#1, hurting down low, but showing signs of recovery and new growth
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...0-day-24-1.jpg
The proud Widow family!
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...dow-family.jpg
A quick tease... the top right back corner of the new grow tent!
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...nic-breeze.jpg
Everyone have a good day! Enjoy that football! Go Chiefs!
Emmie
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Looking much better. :thumbsup:
The one that looks different may be simply a different phenotype, not at all uncommon, especially now-a-days with all the cross breeding out there.
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Today is a good day. Yesterday we turned the corner and rapid growth has restarted on all the babies. There seems to have been no apparent shock to the transplant done three days ago. Deep green is replacing the pale green and the yellowed leaves are all starting to fill in with color again, with the possible exception of the first leaves on #1 and most of the cotyledons. All the plants are turned upwards toward the light again and appear to be thriving. Yesterday in a 6-12 hour period I could visibly see an astounding amount of growth at both the very top and the new bottom leaves coming in on the two biggest plants. It is remarkable to me that when things are going right, the plants respond so quickly and visibly.
New growth at the bottom of #1
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...-25-1-side.jpg
Watering is being done at about 3 day intervals now and I am carefully measuring 1/4 cup each time. No thoughts are even being entertained as to adding anything else to the plants, the new soil should be taking care of it. Soil moisture content is being carefully watched with a meter as I try to learn to "feel" the pots with the lift method.
In an effort to completely control the environment, yesterday I worked on the humidity. I have purchased a cheap vaporizer and installed it with a timer in the grow tent. I have it running for 30 minutes every hour right now and the humidity has risen from 25-30% to about 50%. Temperature is carefully controlled at 78-79 during lights on and 74-75 at lights off, still running a 18/6 light schedule. The new tent is allowing for a very good amount of air exchange in the tent and I am working on the vent to the back porch through a DIY carbon filter. I also worked on plans for my scrog table yesterday and have a good drawing now to try to build that will give me 3.5 sqm of SCRog. I have tried to plan for the ability to flush in place without flooding the room as well as structural soundness and ease of access. We will see how well I have done with this plan as it develops! This is fun!
If things continue to advance as rapidly as they did yesterday, we will have shrubbery here very soon instead of little plantlings. I am very excited to see this and now am working on my patience. The plants are very good teachers... my training is coming along very nicely.
Here are today's pictures!
Look at the runt gooooo! :thumbsup:
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...7-day-25-4.jpg
Our odd but seemingly very happy #3
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...8-day-25-3.jpg
Compare the pictures from yesterday... much more green and upward thrust on #2
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...9-day-25-2.jpg
Our big boy who was impacted by the root problem more than the others
because of his larger needs. A bit of green is creeping in to those big
leaves now especially at the veins. He may not lose them after all. We will see.
http://boards.cannabis.com/members/e...0-day-25-1.jpg
Have a wonderful day everyone!
Emmie
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Lookin' Good Emmie!
..I don't know for sure, but watering them with only a ¼ cup might not be quite enough. I read somewhere that it may cause the roots to turn up to reach the water. Don't let your overwatering episode scare ya, they need to completely dry out, and then have a good run off when watering.
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Not sure about your thinking for the scrog but something that work very well is to construct the frame out of 1/2 or 3/4 inch PVC piping and elbows. You can see an overly complicated version here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...ml#post1743543
All you need are four elbows, some piping and the screen (2" x 3" suggested) and some zip ties to secure the screen. Don't bother with pipe glue. There's no need and moving it at a future date will be easier.
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Originally Posted by bigsby
Not sure about your thinking for the scrog but something that work very well is to construct the frame out of 1/2 or 3/4 inch PVC piping and elbows. You can see an overly complicated version here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...ml#post1743543
All you need are four elbows, some piping and the screen (2" x 3" suggested) and some zip ties to secure the screen. Don't bother with pipe glue. There's no need and moving it at a future date will be easier.
My first thought was of PVC... I have used it before to good effect making Ham Radio antennas. But I thought I read somewhere here that PVC was dangerous to use around plants because of gases that are expelled from the plastic in a hot situation. I thought that I might be alright since I am not using "hot" bulbs... and it certainly would be easier to work with than the aluminum I was thinking of using. Any thoughts about this?
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My first thought was of PVC... I have used it before to good effect making Ham Radio antennas. But I thought I read somewhere here that PVC was dangerous to use around plants because of gases that are expelled from the plastic in a hot situation. I thought that I might be alright since I am not using "hot" bulbs... and it certainly would be easier to work with than the aluminum I was thinking of using. Any thoughts about this?
Emmie
Funny you bring this up Em, as last night i was thinking of how i want my tent set up. I thought about just using wood to build a shelve at about 2' high off the floor, but then extend the corners to fit a screen that would slide or attach to the 4 corners. This way i have a place to use for a shelf and when they get to the hight i want them, i then just slide the screen on and its 12/12 time. I also thought about putting hinges on the back to simply flip down when im ready or leave it when i lollipop some, which are my plans. I was thinking 1x2's to build it, but just thinking here, my tents not here yet. Dang :(
Plants look great:rasta:
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Got half a clothes closet...?
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Nice setup Rusty. And happy new years back at you. Wishing you and the wife all the best.
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My first thought was of PVC... I have used it before to good effect making Ham Radio antennas. But I thought I read somewhere here that PVC was dangerous to use around plants because of gases that are expelled from the plastic in a hot situation.
I read somewhere about not using PVC for irrigation systems due to this issue. I have not see this issue posted anywhere though under a 1K light I'm sure you could make the argument. I have not faced any issues. But then, I don't have a crazy hot light either. I would use wood before messing with aluminum. That's way too much work! Just nail together a few 2"x3"s. Let's look into the PVC thing further. It would be a good question to have answered. Anyone else have thoughts?
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Nice! Hoping to see some strong stems soon! How long will you have them in vegetative state? :hippy:
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Nice! Hoping to see some strong stems soon! How long will you have them in vegetative state? :hippy:
;)
:) That is a very good Question! I'm a newbie... I have no idea! My only answer to give you is, "However long it takes!" Actually, the plan is to get them to 4 internodes and FIM them, get them up to 12" or so after that and take some clones somewhere in there... When things are going well again... then I will flip the switch. I also want to play with determining sex early with a 12/12 cycle on one branch with a black bag. I'm here to learn all I can man!
I'm guessing another month? It may surprise me... but I'm ready... all geared up and ready to go... come on babies... grow grow grow! :)
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lookin good! Glad to so see you got the yellowing/watering situation worked out. I really cant wait to see how the experiment portion of this turns out as far as the early determination of sex goes. All in all they are lookin quite happy, keep up the good work and happy new year!
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Originally Posted by RAINHAZE
......I don't know for sure, but watering them with only a ¼ cup might not be quite enough. I read somewhere that it may cause the roots to turn up to reach the water. Don't let your overwatering episode scare ya..........
That is a possibility. I tried to point out to Emmie that I live in WA State and that I have very high humidity. So in ?Texas? (not sure of flag) and with her lower humidity, she may well need to use more. Low humidity is not bad, the plants can transpire much more quickly and use more water, in this case a great way to get them up to snuff.
I don't think those pots are quite ready for dousing though with the size of the plants.
Growth has been delayed by all this but many folks, including Emmie and myself (on how to give advice better) are learning from this. These plants have turned the corner and will be fine now.
By Fimming, the side branches will grow faster allowing you to take clone cuttings from each. Once rooted the 'mother' can go to flower to positively identify sex. So Emmie will also need to learn how to clone.
As far as building the other item, least expensive other than PVC would be 1x2 furring strips from lowes or home depot. Also depends on tools avail. The furring strips are usually soft still and easy to cut and nail without splitting a lot. I use sheetrock screws tho with a drill.
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
That is a possibility. I tried to point out to Emmie that I live in WA State and that I have very high humidity. So in ?Texas? (not sure of flag) and with her lower humidity, she may well need to use more. Low humidity is not bad, the plants can transpire much more quickly and use more water, in this case a great way to get them up to snuff.
I don't think those pots are quite ready for dousing though with the size of the plants.
Growth has been delayed by all this but many folks, including Emmie and myself (on how to give advice better) are learning from this. These plants have turned the corner and will be fine now.
By Fimming, the side branches will grow faster allowing you to take clone cuttings from each. Once rooted the 'mother' can go to flower to positively identify sex. So Emmie will also need to learn how to clone.
As far as building the other item, least expensive other than PVC would be 1x2 furring strips from lowes or home depot. Also depends on tools avail. The furring strips are usually soft still and easy to cut and nail without splitting a lot. I use sheetrock screws tho with a drill.
My time to experiment is rapidly coming to an end here as school starts again next week. So, I went to Lowe's yesterday and got the PVC after searching the web extensively looking for warnings about using it in this application. I will send pictures when I get the SCRog table assembled as the lower half of this is going to take the place of the table I have in the grow tent now.
Regarding watering, I got one of those long probe moisture/light/ph meter things and have played with it to figure out what it was showing me. As of this morning I know that if I insert the probe part way into the pot, it appears dry, but if i push it all the way to the bottom, it is still moist. So, I wait to water. I have learned my lesson. When it shows dry all the way down to the bottom, then and only then, I will hit it again. I am still playing with the amount to give them. 1/4 cup seems to dry out pretty rapidly and 1/2 cup seems to get me about 3 days with consistent moisture throughout the pot. I am also rethinking the actual act of watering after seeing how the roots developed in the last pots. Up till now, when I watered I carefully tried to soak the middle of the pot all around the plant. So naturally, this is where the roots developed... straight down from the middle. I'm thinking now that this simple thing was also a mistake, and that I am going to start trying to spread the moisture out to the edges and let the roots move out to it, possibly allowing for more horizontal growth of the root system. So many little things to learn here!
Emmie
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Today I wish to show my faithful readers a remarkable turnaround. I took special care in taking some good pictures so that you could clearly see what an incredible change 4 days has made. WW seems to be correct, these plants have turned the corner and now are thriving.
What have I learned? Leave them alone. Water only when they really need it. Don't stress.
Good tools make a big difference too. Good soil, good planter pots with proper drainage, a moisture meter and a hygrometer can make a huge difference. I find that the more completely that I have controlled the environment (light, heat, humidity and fresh air supply) the healthier they seem to become. I see proof in the forum that this can be done in a closet with a few lights strung up, but to get "great" results, I am now convinced that things must be done correctly.
Right now it has been 7 hours since I last commented on the amount to water these babies. The moisture meter still shows that the lower roots have access to moisture in the bottom third of these pots. I have not watered yet, nor will I until I see dry soil at the bottom. This moisture is still left over from almost 3 days ago with 1/4 cup of water.
The following pictures show the result of all this. Four days ago I changed to Happy Frog soil and transplanted. I drastically changed my watering schedule. I put them in a tent that allowed perfect control over light, heat and humidity. Four days ago these plants were dying. They were all yellowing and looking very sick. There was no deep green, and actually where they were not yellow or even turning purple, they showed more of a lime green.
I have added one additional picture today and am posting them all as attachments so you can get higher rez views of them. The additional picture is a wider view of the tent and the first attempt at building a combination planter table/SCRog screen. I will be putting a more sturdy lower base on this design in the next few days to accommodate larger/heavier planters, but other than that, I think this upper screen will work fine and the lower screen will be changed out with something heavier, but still allowing air flow through the table and liquid drip through to a run off container below.
I also want to make sure to thank everyone here for your input and suggestions that have allowed me to get to this point. Without your help, this would not be happening and I would by now be known as a plant murderer. Thank you! I am now confident that this is going to work! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Emmie
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I used to be a Paramedic in real life
:thumbsup: Good job girl :thumbsup:
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Today I am all smiles. All the plants are happy and apparently healthy. A remarkable amount of growth is happening at this point. All the main stems are noticeably thicker, almost a half inch of vertical growth has occurred and secondary leaves are now rapidly growing and extending out of the lower internodes. With the exception of the first leaves on #1, all the yellowed leaves have now filled back in with a deep and healthy looking green.
Unless something significant happens now, I am going to reduce my posting rate to about every other day as I begin to prepare for the new college semester to begin next week. Right now we will wait for the 4th internode to show and watch for the plants to start to mature. I will be taking clones at that point and we will also be doing a FIM operation on each of them. Stay tuned, there is still a lot of learning opportunities to happen in the next month and thankfully we have been able to get to this point.
Here are today's pictures!
Emmie
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Emmie your doing fine
looks like you might be having an nitrogen problem starting
I would feed them a little bit of organic tea
mmmmmm they will love you for it
peace
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Emmie your doing fine
looks like you might be having an nitrogen problem starting
I would feed them a little bit of organic tea
mmmmmm they will love you for it
peace
stickydankAZ
If you had bothered to read any of this you would see she is recovering from an overdose issue. You got any idea what you are doing?
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The plants look Like the new growth is healthy the leaves are lifting up and perky I made my choice on the apperance of the color of the leaves.
I didnt read my bad.... there i slapped my own hand thanks for the Jab or punch ouch.. I do grow alot too and organic tea is fine too use/ if you know how too.....
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The plants look Like the new growth is healthy the leaves are lifting up and perky I made my choice on the apperance of the color of the leaves.
I didnt read my bad.... there i slapped my own hand thanks for the Jab or punch ouch.. I do grow alot too and organic tea is fine too use/ if you know how too.....
I do appreciate the help Sticky, but please go to msg #103 to see the true color of the leaves under an incandescent light. I think that the red/blue combination in the grow tent washes out some of the green with my cheap camera. Not more than a week ago, I did see lockout happening here and I have that yellowish look now written indelibly in my brain. I still see traces of it in some of the lower leaves here but I think without knowing the camera/lighting situation it is quite hard to go by the color in a picture. This was exactly why I brought them out to an incandescent light yesterday so that everyone could clearly see the turnaround we have made in the last 5 days. :D
Emmie
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you know I think this thread has the most views and post's for plants no bigger then say 6 -7inches?-lol, your doing a good job keeping up w/ it though, and they look happy...I'm sure you cant wait to get some "meat" on them.
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you know I think this thread has the most views and post's for plants no bigger then say 6 -7inches?-lol, your doing a good job keeping up w/ it though, and they look happy...I'm sure you cant wait to get some "meat" on them.
Thank you Steezyd! More like 3 1/2 inches so far! LOL What I can't wait for is to get this first crop cured and in my pipe... but I guess I will survive until then. :)
I am a researcher in my real life. I bring this obsessive behavior to this hobby. My goal here on this thread was two fold; I wanted to see if we can prove the fascinating early sexing theory brought to us by WashougalWonder http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...ml#post2068667 , and I wanted to create a true beginners thread where a complete beginner documented her mistakes and learning curve as she figured out how to do this thing we do. This sort of resource was what I looked for on this forum as I began to research, and I am simply trying here to provide the resource that would have helped me in the very beginning not to make the mistakes that I have made.
In the future you will see me document my learning of several other aspects of this as we go on... cloning, FIM, setting up the SCRog and many other interesting things I have read about here. I will be providing links back to the articles that introduced me to the techniques every chance I get. Once we get full into flowering there will not be much of a need to document things as it pretty much goes on autopilot at that point with a SCRog and others have done a fine job in documenting the filling in of the bud sites before me. I will keep everyone informed however, as I know that many will be interested to see what sort of yield and quality I get out of this at the end.
You will see that I have already scaled back reporting a bit now as we have "rounded the corner" and now seem to have viable plants well on their way to maturity. I don't feel there is much to learn with daily reporting at the moment, as my major lesson to just let the plants do what they need to do as I control the environment for them has been learned. I made a ton of mistakes to get to this point, and hopefully I have saved someone from repeating them with my reporting. These points will now be stressed to future readers through my efforts here and in this small way I hope to give back to this community that took me by the hand, showed me friendship from the first moment I introduced myself, and within which many have become my friends. I am very proud that so many are reading this thread each day. It amazes me that we are averaging almost 60 views per day so far and I feel that I am doing some good work here with these efforts.
Thank you everyone who is reading along. I am only succeeding because of you!
Emmie
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you know I think this thread has the most views and post's for plants no bigger then say 6 -7inches?-lol, your doing a good job keeping up w/ it though, and they look happy...I'm sure you cant wait to get some "meat" on them.
Careful dude. You cross her and you'll have 20 teabaggers clanging all kinds of chivalrous armor in your face in her defense... BHA HA HA.
Nice log Emmie. Props. I don't do pics or logs. Perhaps I'll get it together to fix my security issues at some point.
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Greetings fellow Cannibers,
It has been 3 days since my last update to the grow log. The pictures tell the whole story, and it is a good one as we have seen about 20% growth. Everyone is mostly a deep and happy green now and getting taller and wider by the day. Secondary leaf sets are now out on every node and developing rapidly. The size of the fan leaves and the main trunks have increased noticeably in just these 3 days.
I have noticed that the moisture uptake into all 4 is not the same. Yesterday 1,2 and 3 all needed water with the moisture meter showing dry all the way down to the bottom. Our runt, as wide as she may be was not using as much water so I let her sit for one more day. Today she was dry and got the water. I am shooting for a 3 day water cycle and have found that at the moment it takes about 3/4 cup to do that... I expect that number to go up. Emmie is watching.
I also got a surprise when 2 days ago we started getting fragrance from these babies. I was not expecting this yet and scrambled for my mouse as I ordered what I needed to make my DIY carbon filter. I have ducted the two tents together by putting the fan in the old closet (for noise reduction and easy access to an attic vent), a Y duct coming out of the closet, and then flexi ducting to each tent. The inline carbon filter will be installed at the fan output and before the ducting that leads to the attic.
Also, the first try at the SCRog table was not good enough. The screen part is probably fine, but the lower planter table was far too weak to be reliable. We are trying a bit bigger PVC and stiffer screen material after my next trip to that Hunky Man Emporium that is known by all as the local Lowe's store.
I am also very pleased to report that the local drought is over. Missouri is now seeing some medium-good grade available at a reasonable price. Just in time for the new semester and tutoring freshman/sophomore students. Emmie is pleased. :thumbsup:
Here are the pictures!
Our short (formerly known as the runt) achiever. She is by far the widest now and standing at a very proud 3".
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Number 3, definitely a bit different than the rest, but with that distinctive peppery smell of White Widow. Currently 5" tall.
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Number 2, recovered well and standing at almost 5"
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Number 1, spent some energy eating up the first true leaves. The rest have mostly recovered and he is still growing steaily. Getting wider now and 5" tall
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Enjoy that football! Go Chiefs! :thumbsup:
Emmie
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Emmies Grow Log - White Widow
[align=right]Let me lead off with a picture. This is a happy plant. It is our #3, the one who looks
a bit different than the others. I brought her out under an incandescent light so you could see her color better.
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[align=left]Here is the whole family! They wanted to come out to meet you guys!
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Right now they are growing noticeably overnight and now are standing at 6" above the dirt. They are all just about as wide now as the 1 gal pots. I am watering now when they need it (show dry at the bottom) at 1 cup every 48 hours or so. Sometimes they go faster and suck up all the water in 36 hours. Then they go slower for a bit. Emmie's watching...
Still no signs of sex yet nor maturity... the internodes are not coming in staggered yet. The most robust growers in the bunch are working on their 5th or 6th internode now. I am waiting for >8" before doing the first FIM to get them ready for a 10" SCRog screen height.
Since these were seeds and we are not at all sure the sex of these yet, we have a small problem. We can't put these permanently under the screen until we are sure it is only girls under there. Stay tuned as sometime very soon we will be tricking one branch into thinking it is in 12/12 on each plant.
Here are the glamor shots! Everyone smile!
Emmie
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Emmies Grow Log - White Widow
When I was your age?...I would have traded anything for the knowledge you have now; about growing cannabis....:thumbsup:
"teach a man how to fish"...etc..etc....:jointsmile: GOOD LUCK!..enjoy your grow
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Emmies Grow Log - White Widow
One trick I did with my seedlings (because I was scared to "Bend" them) is lay the pots on their sides,... the plant will start growing towards the light,.... do this for a week or so, only uprighting the pot to water, and you have your first bend for LST "No Strings Attached!" :rastasmoke:
After that, tie, tie, tie, and flower.
I didn't FIM my 2 SCROG seed grows, but that would have been a good idea just after the first bend training! ;) :jointsmile:
Edit,... I got 1 male out of the 4 seeds that I cracked from 2 strains (culled one due to varigrated growth) The 2 girls are SCROGed,.... one will die this weekend I think, my White Widow from Nirvana.
My last SCROG showed me a LOT!!! So this round has been MUCH easier :D
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They're looking fabulous now Emmy, I'm so pleased for you. Happy growing plants :)
Well done its so nice to see your work paying off.
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Originally Posted by rattlingdags
They're looking fabulous now Emmy, I'm so pleased for you. Happy growing plants :)
Well done its so nice to see your work paying off.
Thanks R.... I am quite pleased with it actually! I have nothing out of the ordinary to report today. Still carefully watching the watering schedule and only watering when the dry indication is all the way to the bottom of the planter pot. I increased the amount I am giving them to try to stretch this wet dry cycle to 3 days... not sure if it will ever achieve that as they have been getting dry mostly within a 48 hour window. At 2 cups of water the soil is being saturated and a little runoff occurs. I don't think we can add any more water at each watering now. Looking for the sign when I am watering dry pots every day and will be re-potting then to the 3 gal planters.
Other than water and the good soil they are in, I have not given these babies anything extra. Temp is being maintained at a steady 75night-78day degrees. Humidity is around 50%. Water is filtered, set out for 24 hours and PH'd to 6.3 or 6.4. Air is constantly refreshed and the lights are on a perfect 18/6 cycle with absolutely no light leaks.
Tallest plants are now pushing the 8" mark and lower stems are developing well with about 3 sets of leaves. I am going to have to start thinking about FIM very soon.
Here is some veg porn for all of you. Today I have let #2 be the star of the show. Be well everyone... :thumbsup:
Emmie
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Bummer.... pics are just slightly too out of focus to sex,... but something is forming there you should be able to tell first hand by now.
Your baby's are looking good! :thumbsup:
Your on the right track with watching for daily watering as a sign of time to up pot. My WW was about a foot and a half tall when I went from 1 gallon to 5. I let her get pretty root bound, but she loved her new home which also included a change in light cycle! :hippy:
My baby girl dies today :( But it's not all bad, she will be joining her many sisters before her, and will bring happiness and relief to many.
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Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
Bummer.... pics are just slightly too out of focus to sex,... but something is forming there you should be able to tell first hand by now...
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I like it! Its time to learn something new! I am going to get out my loupe and a flashlight today and see what I can see. I need a better camera to get in close.. anyone have any good recommendations for <$200? I'm thinkin Ebay...
At some point they are going to start showing pre-flowers, correct? And that is what I am looking for today. So far I have not been able to see any that didn't look already like leaves... but I will get real close.
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Emmie