My First Mixed Seeds Grow Log

Aloha Weezard,
Thank you for all. Specially for these red flowers :1baa: They're beautiful.

I'll try to be careful. I just want to do this feminize thing first time. From 6+ to 9+ also cross this 6+ with 7. She looks like mostly sativa strain with her very beautiful thin long leaves. Criticals %50 mixed strains (bigbud x skunk). I'm hoping to come up with one Critical7 strain :) and some more seeds for critical+ if i like to taste/effects of smoke and decide to grow later. I'd prefer more meditative high.

And for the stress, also thought it can be light and LST combo. MAybe that one picture from 9+ also a male nanner. I'm going to investigate more :)

I pulled out the pollen sacs and left only one of them on 6+. There were 15-20 sacs i pulled. Cleaning them out was a harder job then I thought. Big plant, too many buds, too many new grows... Just two hours ago I found some, took picture. After a while I went back there and I was trying to find them back for an hour. Well, it wasn't too bad for sure, I found many others during the search.
And one more bad news is:
I just found 2 on the 9+ too. One is the picture i sent previously that was a male flower. Falled of today when I'm trying to make picture and bananas inside.
So this made things risky. Pollinating one hermie to another? What will be results like? Now only chance is trying to create a critical7. Just for test, during the summer on balcony can be a good idea for that. We'll see about that.

Good news:
They started smelling some aroma. I still have the smell on my nose/brain. And they made me sick. My nose running. I don't know if this one is good at all :)

"This mean, in daytime when I enter the room those leaves getting light for less than a minute. Light is only coming from outside, from the open door, not strong. I do it couple of times in a day. Can this be the reason?"

Quite likely! It only takes 0.5 lux for a fist-full of seconds to light stress cannabis,
Lightning seem to be too short a duration and the full moon is just under .5 lux.
But repeated daylight through a doorway will make them go nuts.

If you have pollen allergies and you can't catch your nose, I'd say there are many seeds in your near future.:D

I purposely pollinated a little red-headed girl.

Well, not personally, I used pollen from a "super-dad" with a blue tinge.:D

Got some purple seeds for my efforts.:cool:
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They could suck wind, they could grow legends.

V shell C.

Aloha,
Weeze

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Alright. Here we go !

LetsSeeYa, they're 22 days in 12/12. Preflowers were before that. And the age is about 50 days. Here I took some more pictures of 9+ to show how it begins.
Here multi pistils
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Here like how its beginning. It's like a male flower but there is a pistil in the middle. This is the only one I could find.
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I'll go back there to investigate more and try to take clearer pictures.

Specially after these!!!!
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Congrats to me, 6+ hermied. I don't know why but I have some ideas. Those flowers are on one side only and most of them I found on her was where the leaves were not covered (Under the outtake fan in the middle). This mean, in daytime when I enter the room those leaves getting light for less than a minute. Light is only coming from outside, from the open door, not strong. I do it couple of times in a day. Can this be the reason?

Now I am also thinking maybe 9+ also trying to get some balls but whenever she tries female hormones are winning and getting buds there??

I need feedback for this: I was just hoping to get some polens to pollinate each one of my plants (6,7,9) to get some seeds. I need to clean this mess before they spread all over.
Q1: I'll just leave one or two balls I think that's enough right?
Q2: How long it takes for them to sack pollens?
Q3: Should I cover them with some plastic like food covers or sth like that near the end to prevent pollen sacks all over?

Hey Weezard, do you have anything to do with this hermie situation? I'm very suspicious. I didn't notice them yesterday, maybe they weren't exist yet. I just read your post and you were talking about breeding. I was going to say "I don't have pollen" to you (I even wrote the post and preview but I couldn't send).
Tell me, did you do some magic from there some how? :D

Thank you for thoughts :hippy:

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been down this road,....

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...nes-rusty.html


No resolution. :(

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Originally Posted by canniwhatsis

been down this road,....
http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...nes-rusty.html
No resolution. :(

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:(. I was just reading this and the previous connected topic yesterday. I thought send my picture too because I thought they're different things:

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Originally Posted by tevfik

And 9+
Budding from everywhere...
There are more developing like this.

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But, turned out (after confirmation), not necessary to send picture anymore :) They're simply same things with that you sent before.
Anyway, your experiments on this helped me. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Weezard

"This mean, in daytime when I enter the room those leaves getting light for less than a minute. Light is only coming from outside, from the open door, not strong. I do it couple of times in a day. Can this be the reason?"

Quite likely! It only takes 0.5 lux for a fist-full of seconds to light stress cannabis,
Lightning seem to be too short a duration and the full moon is just under .5 lux.
But repeated daylight through a doorway will make them go nuts.

If you have pollen allergies and you can't catch your nose, I'd say there are many seeds in your near future.:D

I purposely pollinated a little red-headed girl.

Well, not personally, I used pollen from a "super-dad" with a blue tinge.:D

Got some purple seeds for my efforts. :cool:
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They could suck wind, they could grow legends.

V shell C.

Aloha,
Weeze

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Yes, after 9+ I'm sure it was about the light. Because 9+ had only two flowers on a branch where she saw the light. 6+ had more because she got more light than anyone else. 7 is totally clear, she was in dark all the way. I'm just hoping they don't go worse after this. They're just paying back the stress to me :)

I'm going to use mask for next time cleaning :) I don't want a seed farm here.

And for breeding, I read there is a risk pollens from a "feminized". As you said, legend or garbage. But I still couldn't find a clear info about breeding two hermies on each others (Maybe I start a thread about this). I'm planning to pollinate only the parts of 9+ which are not effected by the light leak. And will hope for the best.

By the way, your seeds... Like colored seeds but in natural way :thumbsup:


Now, the other things.
Yesterday I also feed hermiticals with half dosage of nutes. Applied a little grow nutrients too (NPK 4-6-8) because some lower leafs just dropping with very light green color. I thought this can be N deficiency. Bloom solution nearly don't have N in it. NPK is 1,5-13-14 for it.
Nute water PPM was around 1000. Runoff PH 6,5.

Problem again about erecting leaves. I found them touching the bulbs again and tips burned. I don't know how to deal with this. I wired back those light burn protecting wires again, helped but not %100. Maybe I should tie those leaves down so they don't erect? Can this harm the plants in anyway?

Cheers up! Trichomes developing like crazy. Spreading all over the leaves. 7 also started having them.
8 and 14 also having bit by bit. But I really don't like 8s status. Looking very weak, thin.
Pictures coming today.

Hermie situation is under control. No more balls around for now. I changed the front cover, no more light leaks+effective reflection (picture taken before).

More trichomes every other day:
Order: 6,7,9,9, All (7,6,9)
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Looks like 8 will be the first harvest. Her pistils started getting brown but not much trichomes yet. She managed to recover her broken stems. They're no more broken.

Order: 8, 14, 8 and 14 together in their small room.
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Today I trained big praying fan leaves. Mostly 6 was touching the lights and burning the tips. I tied them down to the side branches. Now I could lower the lights much more close to the buds. We're all happy now.

Here they are
Order: 6,6,7,9,9
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5th week of flowering started yesterday. Based on label information for criticals, two-three weeks (Includes this one) left to harvest (45-50 days total)
I Feed criticals today with Greenlabel Bio Booster recommended dosage (1 ml per liter) + Plagron Grow half dosage (2ml per liter). I finished Plagron bloom already and Greenlabel Bio Booster is not strong enough. All in total PPM was around 800. This will be the last but one feeding probably.

All floros are 7600K now. I set side CFLs on another timer, they're on 2.5 hours later and off 2.5 hours earlier than tubes.

No more balls around for now but buds. The one I left still didn't open. Looks like pollens will be saved for summer.

bud from 9+, 6+, all, I tried to get some close up on trichomes this is the closest up I could get clearly.
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8 no longer in the journey. I found pollen sacks on her (it) and removed from the room immediately. Two bananas were already free I don't know how effective they were. I hope they stuck on her only. After removal I found more on her, they were just getting ready to pollinate.

Seed was probably from my previous late hermie bagseeds. All the bagseeds in second part (5,7 and 8) were my desktop seeds. They were from previous grow and just three. I kept them around my desktop, with this grow I remembered and planted but I didn't know from which plant I took them. Now things are much clear. 8 was from this plant, I've found several seeds on her after harvest.
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Now I'm thinking 7 can be from this plant which is showed only a couple of bananas in very late flowering.
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I might found some seeds on her as well. Just don't remember. May be pollinated by the other one. I'll be watching 7 much closer from now on.

So, I think (I believe) 8 had hermie genes with her by default. Just was waiting for a trigger. And probably she was effected from light leak too + she had all the troubles after replacing. And she responded. I was already thinking on 8 and looking everyday for possible male flowers to take her away and give a space for 14 (Now 14 alone under the table, well, I must say she's not complaining at all) Only thing worries me is, I couldn't see the flowers since today. That's a bit scary for me because if I didn't see on such a small and easy plant like 8, how will I manage to control 6 and 9?

Today was a feeding day for all.
I recently brought a new bottle of alga bloom because booster I'm using has not enough EC with it and recommended to use with bloom nutrients.
I realized there was something wrong with my 1 year old bottle, had 8.4 pH in the mix. With the new bottle was 6.5 pH. I tried to understand, when I raised the dosage it lowered the pH. So, in the end I gave 1000ppm aprox. 5 liters for each 6 and 9. 500ppm 3.5L to 7, 500ppm 2.5L to 14. All runoff was 6.1-6.2 pH
When the lights are on I'll take same soil samples and see if the soil still have low pH or what.

7 has nuteburns on tips, 6 and 9 is showing signs for future nuteburns. Since I'm close to harvest I didn't want to give only water for possible last feeding. Maybe there can be one more feeding with half dosage or I can start giving only water. Not sure yet, time will tell I hope.

This is the hardest part for me. I usually screw up things in last weeks. I hope this will be the first success for me.

Pictures coming soon. :hippy:

Order: 6,7,9,9,all
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Great looking plants, just hoping mine turn out half as good! So, you're blooming them under 7500K lights the last two weeks? Why not a lower Kelvin like 2700K? Also, you seemed pretty excited about the natural lights you got(red), are those full-spectrum lights better? any articles to refer?

haha sorry for the 20 questions, great looking grow just tryna learn ur tricks :D

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Originally Posted by IntrepidSavage

Great looking plants, just hoping mine turn out half as good! So, you're blooming them under 7500K lights the last two weeks? Why not a lower Kelvin like 2700K? Also, you seemed pretty excited about the natural lights you got(red), are those full-spectrum lights better? any articles to refer?

haha sorry for the 20 questions, great looking grow just tryna learn ur tricks :D

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Thank you for thoughts.
I didn't specially do for last weeks, I was going to use them all for flowering but my order was late for three weeks so I just could make it near the end. I'm not sure how much they're effective at the moment but they must be more effective than 2700k I believe.
Here spectrum graphics for 076 and 2700. 076 hits on 660nm and also gives good amount of blue at 440nm. Fitting very well for flowering.
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7600k giving out 2200lm. 2700k giving out 2900lm.

First this thread http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...uch-light.html was very helpful for me.
Also, there are some articles I read, it wasn't about cannabis, but, it is very helpful source for lighting.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftoptr opicals.com%2Fhtml%2Ftoptropicals%2Farticles%2Ftec hno%2Flamps%2Flamp.htm

Feed: I feed them again. 6 and 9 drunk 4 liters each. 7 and 14 drunk 1 liter (That was the food left, so I gave to them.)
850 PPM, 6.2 pH. Runoff around 6. Previously it was same, next day I got soil sample and check, it was around 6.3-6.5 pH. Tomorrow I'll check again and see if its still buffering. Anyway, since the last weeks started I'll not give any more food after now and ingoing pH will be 7 again. Maybe one more time, if they wants to go on a couple of week more. :whalephant:

Air: Humidity lowest 45 and 70 highest. Highest point is only shown after watering one or two days. Otherwise it is around 60. Mostly when I'm checking time to time I see 50-55. Those values are from the memory of hygrometer.
Temperature 23 in shade and 26-27 canopy.

Criticals: 6 has bigger buds but less trichomes. Only edges of the leaves are with trichomes. I don't know why that happened. I thought its about heat. She is in the center and there is not much air as on 9. I also thought maybe removing her nanners and couple of burned leafs might put her in to stress some how. 9 has smaller but fully frost buds. I checked trichomes, they looked mature now but still clear. Lowest branches are light green but trichomes everywhere. They're smelling very nice. :1baa:
Here 6 and 9.
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Nanners: Yesterday I lost the nanner the one I've been keeping. It was ten days already and didn't open. I just wanted to check and touch it very softly and it fall. But today, I found two more just next to the other one but they also fall :) I gave up this pollinating thing for now. If I see any more nanners I'll just cut them off (No, I don't have to cut. When I touch they're falling anyway).

se7en: She looks pretty good in corner. Currently using 15-20% of the cabinet. Very economic. Even that not stopping her to get frostier. I have good feelings about her :cool:

The other: Poor 14. Couldn't get a nice environment. Her head was burning. Already touching the roof and covered with 4 bulbs around. I can understand. So, I topped her. I'm hoping to slow down her and when there is place in the cabinet, I can continue with her.:weedpoke:

Here I moved them 5 weeks ago:
http://boards.cannabis.com/2170941-post44.html

They're flowering lightly. They didn't stretch scary. They're just fine as you can see. Winter sun, only 5 days or a little more maybe they got sun. Other days were all cloudy.
Only one accident happened three days ago and 13 main stem broken badly. I fixed back straight but I'm not sure if it helps. She still have problems. Upper leaves are very droppy in daytime. Somehow they're raising at night. See if she can heal.
Now they're waiting for a space from the cabinet. Once they get it, they'll move there. This will change their light cycle, so they'll get 20 hours of dark.

Order: All (17,2,13), 2, 13, 17, Worms? and a mushroom.
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I took some more pictures from windowsill plants. You see they're having trichomes little by little. Pay attention to leaves of 13 (second pic). They're up again in a cloudy weather. I'll keep watching if they drop when there's sun.

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I noticed some leaf curls on 6s head. That is 2 cm to the lights and in the middle. I attached thermometers clip there and saw 34C degree. So, I added a pc fan and it dropped highest value to 29C degree. This was a late move but better than nothing I think.

Here are the shots. You know the order already.
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Edit: Yes, afternoon there was sun and 13 dropped top leaves down again.

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Good motivation Weeze, thanks.

Keep watchin'. :rasta:

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hi, do you know if joints selling in coffee shops in Holland are only marijuana cigarettes..? or it´s a mix of marijuana and tobacco..?
I have to go there and don´t know anything
keep in touch

I got a new toy :D

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Looking mighty tasty. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by tikiroom

Looking mighty tasty. :thumbsup:

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Thanks tikiroom. They look like and they were smelling much stronger every other day in this last week until I got flu. Since then I can't smell and taste anything. Its like I have a carbon filter on me.:wtf:
I got a sample from the middle to see if this is the level what I've been looking for and if they are really tasty as they look but I can't try until I get my full potent back. Today I feel better. I could smell them a little when I stick my noose to flowers :D

Final weeks news:
I stopped feeding them and gave only snow water two days ago. Maybe one more watering after this one.
I also tied a rope around 6, because branches were bending down to the sides. They must be loaded :jointsmile:
I gave all 6500K to 14. Lets see if it makes any good.

Here are some more pictures on day 45.
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:hippy: Flower Power!

Don't want to cross post but Tevfik would you look at this:

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ml#post2186469

Perhaps you could add to the discussion?

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Originally Posted by bigsby

Don't want to cross post but Tevfik would you look at this:

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ml#post2186469

Perhaps you could add to the discussion?

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I've been looking for a way to answer your rep since I spent mine before, you were right on time my friend. I was just reading that and replied there while you were here :) I'll try to put my hands in it. ;)

Yesterday I gave snow water again to all (6,7,9,14). Leaves are still dark green, no deficiency yet.
Changed side lighting to 6500k

I saw some cloudy and some amber trichomes. Rest looks clear.

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*Picture of 14 is 3 days ago.

Yesterday I gave water again, this time tap water only. I feel I did it wrong, I should give tap water first then snow. Maybe after this watering one more water I can give (Every time I say the same huh). They're still growing buds, feels like one more week they go...
I didn't go this far before with success so I need some feedback here:
Heads are almost ready, they have plenty amount of amber trichs on them but I think that is characteristics (amber only leaf surface), rest looks still clear. Maybe they're cloudy and I don't know the difference between clear and cloudy. When the lights on I'll upload heads macro pictures to give a better view. I tested the sample 1/5 g (took 5 days ago or so), I still have smell and taste problems from flu, but tasted good even with my limited senses. Lasted long enough with clear energetic high. Not for sleeping definitely.
So, I'm planning to cut the heads in a couple of days and leave the rest lower sites for one or two more weeks. By doing this, I'm planning to have some clear/cloudy - cloudy first crop, then some cloudy/amber - amber second crop for sleeping buds :)
Please let me know your thoughts on this.

Here are some pictures, as you see, second layer on buds are forming/formed (I think that is the big bud thing) Half by half white and orange/brown pistils.
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i love your ladys:thumbsup:

Thank you Dexter, I'm happy to hear you're enjoying the ride :thumbsup:

Here we go. These are from 9.
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Wow man they are beautiful!! sheesh i hope mine turn out like that!! hmm to my untrained eye the first three pics all look like clear trichs, fourth pic is mostly milky, fifth pic mostly amber. how'd you take those pics? I'm gonna have to figure out how to judge ripeness too, i'm thinkin sorta the same as you - harvest in stages to get the different effects.. what an exciting ride! Good work tevfik.