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Originally Posted by lampost
I'm glad that the people who used to smoke brown, mexi brick buds don't see a drop in quality....
Hahaha had to laugh! A patient was telling me that their father who now is retired in Mexico, was visiting. First time he had ever smoked actual green bud! He said bud is very easy to get where he is but it's that old school brown dry seeded stuff.
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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan
Hahaha had to laugh! A patient was telling me that their father who now is retired in Mexico, was visiting. First time he had ever smoked actual green bud! He said bud is very easy to get where he is but it's that old school brown dry seeded stuff.
ive read there is hq in mexico however its for tourists and the elite. now cartels are using american soil in national forests to grow better swag. idiots still cant get it right. who knows maybe they own dispensaries also. how about coca and mj farms in the US so that they wont bother us anymore. that would be to logical though:wtf: instead of our country making profit we would rather tax our people and pretend we are doing something about it...even more:wtf: jeez imagine if this guy smoked some purple, magenta, yellow, blue shit he'd probably OD:jointsmile:
he who smokes meded never has one of these:(
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At Southwest Alternative Care we have 22 strains on the shelf right now.
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Dang, we only have 20. You win. :(
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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter
Dang, we only have 20. You win. :(
DON'T FORGET POKER PLAYER PAUL WASICKA'S FAVORITE MMC IS SwAltCare, SO THEY WIN.
Can you get chuck norris? That would be pretty kick ass. You could have him roundhouse kick in the grow room instead of fans. I'm sure you know that chuck norris' roundhouse kicks have blown over buses, so your plants would be no problem.
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Everyone is wondering what the hell I'm laughing so hard at right now. Thanks for disrupting the office ;)
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
I'm skeptical too, especially since it appears he's poo-pooing solid places like releaf, pure, etc.
Given our community and patient's want of top quality, I'm sure if these 4 places would be well known, if they existed. Maybe they're grown in soil with pixie dust and fertilized with unicorn poo.
heyy now dont knock the unicorn poo, quality stuff my friend:D
meded for life...its ok we're taking it back
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Originally Posted by MEDEDCANNABIS
heyy now dont knock the unicorn poo, quality stuff my friend:D
meded for life...its ok we're taking it back
I don't need to mention specifics, but I went to 2 of those 4 places, and I was unimpressed to the point that I didn't buy anything, and spent my money elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
I don't need to mention specifics, but I went to 2 of those 4 places, and I was unimpressed to the point that I didn't buy anything, and spent my money elsewhere.
I've been to several places like that, I will no longer visit an MMC unless they have good reviews from trusted sources, I am tired of wasting my time on
*** J U N K ***
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Originally Posted by mustangwomyn
I've been to several places like that, I will no longer visit an MMC unless they have good reviews from trusted sources, I am tired of wasting my time on
*** J U N K ***
There is an awful lot of noise out there. WB at westword won't publish a bad review I don't think, and I don't care about anyone else.
However, kindreviews is doing great things. They broke the maritrust mite issue I think, so they're definitely a resource.
I would also value the reviews of respected posters here.
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
DON'T FORGET POKER PLAYER PAUL WASICKA'S FAVORITE MMC IS SwAltCare, SO THEY WIN.
Can you get chuck norris? That would be pretty kick ass. You could have him roundhouse kick in the grow room instead of fans. I'm sure you know that chuck norris' roundhouse kicks have blown over buses, so your plants would be no problem.
Chuck can also brush aside his beard to reveal his chin-fist, which will terrify your plants into maturing almost instantly.
I was in Oaxaca a couple years back and picked up some actual green buds. They were super-leafy and not manicured very well (if at all). They weren't that bad. Obviously the genetics were good, but with a better grower it could've been worlds better.
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Originally Posted by lampost
Chuck can also brush aside his beard to reveal his chin-fist, which will terrify your plants into maturing almost instantly.
I was in Oaxaca a couple years back and picked up some actual green buds. They were super-leafy and not manicured very well (if at all). They weren't that bad. Obviously the genetics were good, but with a better grower it could've been worlds better.
Or maybe dog the bounty hunter if chuck is busy kicking ass. Although he's a bit of a religious nut to me.
Who else? Maybe DealinDoug and his rings and horrible commercials?
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
...Maybe DealinDoug and his rings and horrible commercials?
That man spends more time under HID lights than my plants do!
:D
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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan
That man spends more time under HID lights than my plants do!
:D
maybe the name of a new strain "dealin doug" deal right or youll get robbed of your high + tax and license
meded is a hell of a drug
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Originally Posted by MEDEDCANNABIS
maybe the name of a new strain "dealin doug" deal right or youll get robbed of your high + tax and license
meded is a hell of a drug
Funny ! Lets not forget about Jake Jabs. JJJ... JJ Joints, Jakes Juice etc..............
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Originally Posted by wkhey4
Funny ! Lets not forget about Jake Jabs. JJJ... JJ Joints, Jakes Juice etc..............
I was going to mention him, but I thought he might be dead and I'm too lazy to bother looking. I could see him walking through a garden of trees in some stupid commercial. Dealindoug would probably have his 'bling' and be in front of a green screen with some stupid prank.
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
I was going to mention him, but I thought he might be dead and I'm too lazy to bother looking. I could see him walking through a garden of trees in some stupid commercial. Dealindoug would probably have his 'bling' and be in front of a green screen with some stupid prank.
LOL.... I can't get picture Dealing Doug flying through the air in his ganja suit out of my mind.
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
I don't need to mention specifics, but I went to 2 of those 4 places, and I was unimpressed to the point that I didn't buy anything, and spent my money elsewhere.
Oh-OK yea right, cause your knowledge of choice bud is so much better then any other user, go ahead mention specifics, I'm sure it wasn't the lizard or alcc.
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Originally Posted by showstopper
Oh-OK yea right, cause your knowledge of choice bud is so much better then any other user, go ahead mention specifics, I'm sure it wasn't the lizard or alcc.
I don't think you should be insulted. With the turnover in inventory, I could have just hit that MMC on a bad day.
I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to publicly 'shame' or give negative reviews of a place I've been to once. I'm sure you understand. I'll hit those places again since they've gotten good reviews here and elsewhere. I was just sharing my experience. It's not hard to figure out which MMC's I went to.
I'm not saying I'm an expert, I would only claim to be a snob about quality. My standards are likely different than yours.
It would be nice to find a place/strain that we could find and discuss instead of these 'mine is better than yours' rants, to maybe establish a baseline on what different people consider top 1%.
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Well, I know I am more or less new on the boards here, but I figure I will throw in my two cents.
I just recently moved here from Wisconsin (by way of Minnesota) to work in the MMJ industry. I have been growing commercially for about 11-12 years.
So far I have not seen a single nugget of dispensary weed that I have been impressed with.
I'm not trying to disrespect anybody or any dispensary. I'm sure that there are some excellent growers here. They are just probably growing for themselves.
My major weed complaints out here:
Mechanically trimmed.
Improperly trimmed.
Hydro.
Nonexistent or poor curing.
WAY TOO DRY. Pot should never crumble.
All of these things add up to very poor smell and flavor. Also, for being so free and open with the reefer out here it seems like the average consumer is less knowledgeable about pot quality than I am used to. Back in Minnesota your average smoker can tell the difference between hydro and soil, organic and inorganic, and often what nutrient line you are using based just on flavor.
I especially think that it is ridiculous that a lb of inorganic hydro demands the same price as organically grown soil nuggets. Cant anyone come up with some kind of uniform grading system?
Sorry if I went off on a rant there.
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@coloradogrower420, I'm very picky or OCD about the meds I choose I can guarantee you that most of us on this forum are. All i was saying is quality has not dropped any and is even better then 6 months ago. If people are running into junk meds which i do 2-3 times a month, STOP GOING TO THE SAME PLACE keep searching, I found my favs and was just sharing. I just got back from ALCC and their supply is the fire dank. and they said no unicorns were harmed producing it.
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Originally Posted by asscore
Well, I know I am more or less new on the boards here, but I figure I will throw in my two cents.
I just recently moved here from Wisconsin (by way of Minnesota) to work in the MMJ industry. I have been growing commercially for about 11-12 years.
So far I have not seen a single nugget of dispensary weed that I have been impressed with.
I'm not trying to disrespect anybody or any dispensary. I'm sure that there are some excellent growers here. They are just probably growing for themselves.
My major weed complaints out here:
Mechanically trimmed.
Improperly trimmed.
Hydro.
Nonexistent or poor curing.
WAY TOO DRY. Pot should never crumble.
All of these things add up to very poor smell and flavor. Also, for being so free and open with the reefer out here it seems like the average consumer is less knowledgeable about pot quality than I am used to. Back in Minnesota your average smoker can tell the difference between hydro and soil, organic and inorganic, and often what nutrient line you are using based just on flavor.
I especially think that it is ridiculous that a lb of inorganic hydro demands the same price as organically grown soil nuggets. Cant anyone come up with some kind of uniform grading system?
Sorry if I went off on a rant there.
The closest you'll get to uniform 'grading' is testing at fullspectrum or something, but levels could change from grow to grow.
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I do not consider full spectrum to be "grading".
The herb could be highly potent but taste like shit, or be grown with crap nutrients.
Grading cannabis should be like grading wine. Smell and flavor being the main concerns. Potency after that.
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Originally Posted by asscore
I do not consider full spectrum to be "grading".
The herb could be highly potent but taste like shit, or be grown with crap nutrients.
Grading cannabis should be like grading wine. Smell and flavor being the main concerns. Potency after that.
For some, the potency is the only thing that matters. It's a subjective assessment, as well. Some people love nothing but Diesel, others can't stand the smell.
Kind Reviews does a great job of grading along those lines already.
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Originally Posted by asscore
Well, I know I am more or less new on the boards here, but I figure I will throw in my two cents.
I just recently moved here from Wisconsin (by way of Minnesota) to work in the MMJ industry. I have been growing commercially for about 11-12 years.
So far I have not seen a single nugget of dispensary weed that I have been impressed with.
I'm not trying to disrespect anybody or any dispensary. I'm sure that there are some excellent growers here. They are just probably growing for themselves.
My major weed complaints out here:
Mechanically trimmed.
Improperly trimmed.
Hydro.
Nonexistent or poor curing.
WAY TOO DRY. Pot should never crumble.
All of these things add up to very poor smell and flavor. Also, for being so free and open with the reefer out here it seems like the average consumer is less knowledgeable about pot quality than I am used to.
I especially think that it is ridiculous that a lb of inorganic hydro demands the same price as organically grown soil nuggets. Cant anyone come up with some kind of uniform grading system?
Sorry if I went off on a rant there.
Properly grown there is ZERO difference in taste, potency, and quality between dirt and hydro and I would venture to say hydro would have a slight advantage if one knows what they're doing. Taste and smell come from a proper trim and curing, not the medium its grown in.
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Originally Posted by asscore
Back in Minnesota your average smoker can tell the difference between hydro and soil, organic and inorganic, and often what nutrient line you are using based just on flavor.
Thanks for the laugh :clap:
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I disagree wholeheartedly.
Hydro is always distinguishable from soil, especially if you can look at the same strain from both. It may get a little murkier when it comes to nutrients.
We always grew the same strains, and after so many years you get to know the strains inside and out. After awhile you can tell the difference in flavor from bio-bizz, botanicare, metanaturals, Advanced, straight guano's, etc.
Hell, I dont have to taste shit grown with GH, i can smell it.
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Originally Posted by asscore
Hell, I dont have to taste shit grown with GH, i can smell it.
you can smell it cause your full of it.
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Originally Posted by asscore
Well, I know I am more or less new on the boards here, but I figure I will throw in my two cents.
I just recently moved here from Wisconsin (by way of Minnesota) to work in the MMJ industry. I have been growing commercially for about 11-12 years.
So far I have not seen a single nugget of dispensary weed that I have been impressed with.
I'm not trying to disrespect anybody or any dispensary. I'm sure that there are some excellent growers here. They are just probably growing for themselves.
My major weed complaints out here:
Mechanically trimmed.
Improperly trimmed.
Hydro.
Nonexistent or poor curing.
WAY TOO DRY. Pot should never crumble.
All of these things add up to very poor smell and flavor. Also, for being so free and open with the reefer out here it seems like the average consumer is less knowledgeable about pot quality than I am used to. Back in Minnesota your average smoker can tell the difference between hydro and soil, organic and inorganic, and often what nutrient line you are using based just on flavor.
I especially think that it is ridiculous that a lb of inorganic hydro demands the same price as organically grown soil nuggets. Cant anyone come up with some kind of uniform grading system?
Sorry if I went off on a rant there.
Sorry, But I'd say your hitting up the wrong places. Seeing as your new to the local scene I'll let let your disrespect go for now.
I've sampled bud from all four corners of the good old USA and I'd put Colorado bud up against any !!!
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Minnesota - Land of 10000 Emerald Lakes
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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan
ReLeaf,
Your post is what I thought would happen, but hopefully it's just a temporary situation. No 1 MMC is going to have the wide variety of great product that they were able to carry a few months ago. I'm sorry but no 1 grower is knowledgeable enough to grow 45+ strains! I figured at first places would have about 1-2 top strains and about 6-8 mids - adds up to be about 10 strains per place. If MMCs would work together, they could each swap their mids, bringing the number of strains they carry to about 15. Personally I don't need a place that carries more than that! After smelling 3 or 4, they start to all smell the same! Maybe I'm getting old, but I don't need to choose from 45+ strains.
How much better does your top sell compared to mids. I'm guessing mids out sell your top & low. It's human nature. Check out the book,
Predictably Irrational
Might change the way you present your product....
It definitely makes one a more educated consumer!
dude you are dead wrong, herbal connections cherry creek has had the best meds ive seen EVER and theyve been getting better and better since 1284. they obviously know what they are doing, grow all their own stuff, and grow it DAMN WELL. and its damn cheap too, 90 dollar quarters of fire, unbelievable FLO, blue dream, jack flash, big bud/NL#5, best deisel ive seen, chemdawg deisel (unreal), GRAPE APE/HASHPLANT BEST STRAIN EVER FOR PAIN. every time i go in there the meds are better and better. im sure 1284 has caused a lot places problems. but honestly, fuck em! the only thing 1284 did to this place was make them close their vaporizer lounge, other than that these guys got it down perfect
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Originally Posted by metalbrad
dude you are dead wrong, herbal connections cherry creek has had the best meds ive seen EVER and theyve been getting better and better since 1284. they obviously know what they are doing, grow all their own stuff, and grow it DAMN WELL. and its damn cheap too, 90 dollar quarters of fire, unbelievable FLO, blue dream, jack flash, big bud/NL#5, best deisel ive seen, chemdawg deisel (unreal), GRAPE APE/HASHPLANT BEST STRAIN EVER FOR PAIN. every time i go in there the meds are better and better. im sure 1284 has caused a lot places problems. but honestly, fuck em! the only thing 1284 did to this place was make them close their vaporizer lounge, other than that these guys got it down perfect
How long have you been working there?
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Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
How long have you been working there?
Was thinking the same thing. :jointsmile: :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by metalbrad
dude you are dead wrong, herbal connections cherry creek has had the best meds ive seen EVER and theyve been getting better and better since 1284. they obviously know what they are doing, grow all their own stuff, and grow it DAMN WELL. and its damn cheap too, 90 dollar quarters of fire, unbelievable FLO, blue dream, jack flash, big bud/NL#5, best deisel ive seen, chemdawg deisel (unreal), GRAPE APE/HASHPLANT BEST STRAIN EVER FOR PAIN. every time i go in there the meds are better and better. im sure 1284 has caused a lot places problems. but honestly, fuck em! the only thing 1284 did to this place was make them close their vaporizer lounge, other than that these guys got it down perfect
90 dollar 1/4 damn, ill stick with $10 an ounce:thumbsup: quality-superior
meded is a hell of a drug
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Originally Posted by metalbrad
dude you are dead wrong, herbal connections cherry creek has had the best meds ive seen EVER ... FLO, blue dream, jack flash, big bud/NL#5, best deisel ive seen, chemdawg deisel (unreal), GRAPE APE/HASHPLANT BEST STRAIN EVER FOR PAIN. ...
So how am I DEAD WRONG - I count 6-7 strains. Of which 2 have potential to be top strains if grown properly. The rest no matter how well it's grown are at best top mid strains. But everyone has different tastes. I do agree with you though that HC-CC has some decent stuff and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, but even they aren't carrying the same number of strain they once did, and neither is any other MMC. Which I think is a good thing! Too many choices make it very difficult for patients to choose. A budtender has to spend a lot of time when many strains are too similar anyway and the end results are very similar. Still say a MMC only needs about 12-15 strains.
I still stand by my original post, but what some might consider Top Fire, for me might be Top Mids - but don't get me wrong I don't think most people even need Top Fire or are able to appreciate it. I know I don't get a chance to enjoy it that often. Like you (going by the strains you posted), I usually enjoy Top Mids.
Think cognacs - I usually enjoy Remy Martin VSOP when I'm out, but have Remy XO at home which I enjoy sparingly several times a month. Couple times of year I splurge and get a snifter of Remy Martin Louie (about $50-90/shot, unless it's my b-day then my favorite bar hooks a brother up). But if I'm hosting a party, I'm buying & providing the lower end Remy VS. My girlfriend - thinks all cognacs are disgusting and would have to get paid to drink the stuff.
If that analogy doesn't make sense then think steakhouses. Some people love The Outback. Me - can't stand their steaks, but will go with friends and enjoy myself anyway. I like Elway's, but even then prefer Elway's downtown over Cherry Creek - why because the steaks downtown are of better quality. Would most people even be able to tell the difference? Doubt it and that's fine.
Or take Thai food - when I first moved here about a decade ago, Tommy Thai had been voted best Thai food for about 6 years running. So of course I had to check it out! Guess what - they suck, no self-respecting Thai person would ever churn out that crap. I'm not saying I have incredible tastebuds, but there are some things I just really know how to appreciate. Now Mexican food & drink is still a new cuisine for me and I'm still learning to appreciate the better Mex food. Right now I can't really tell the difference too much between the various restaurants & their tacos, same goes with tequila. Most tequila taste like crap to me. I've only had one I thought was decent (Asombroso).
As long as you are enjoying whatever you have - that's what's important. Who cares what other people think. If you feel you're going a good deal that's all the better!
:jointsmile:
But don't tell me I'm dead wrong, and then go on to just confirm what I stated when you explain yourself.
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Originally Posted by metalbrad
dude you are dead wrong, herbal connections cherry creek has had the best meds ive seen EVER and theyve been getting better and better since 1284. they obviously know what they are doing, grow all their own stuff, and grow it DAMN WELL. and its damn cheap too, 90 dollar quarters of fire, unbelievable FLO, blue dream, jack flash, big bud/NL#5, best deisel ive seen, chemdawg deisel (unreal), GRAPE APE/HASHPLANT BEST STRAIN EVER FOR PAIN. every time i go in there the meds are better and better. im sure 1284 has caused a lot places problems. but honestly, fuck em! the only thing 1284 did to this place was make them close their vaporizer lounge, other than that these guys got it down perfect
How ironic..........
http://boards.cannabis.com/colorado-...ml#post2144552
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Buddah,
As owner of HCCC, I couldnâ??t agree with you more. Elwayâ??s downtown is way better and quality has taken a plunge everywhere including our shop. Sidenote: I really like US Thai in Edgewater for the fire Thai cuisine. I believe through all of 1284 we worked as hard as anybody to keep quality meds on our shelves for all our patients. It hasnâ??t been easy either, Iâ??ve lost friends, partners, associates, Iâ??ve yet to met a grower who wants to hear he fâ??d up. Iâ??ve seen PM, mite infestations, hermed crops, mosaic virus, pythium, mold like Iâ??ve never seen before. Itâ??s everyone from the best MMCâ??s to the home grows. I see everyone pointing the finger at someone else, but itâ??s widespread. The sad thing is itâ??s easy for me to turn away this bad medicine, but I know they just sell it down the street and it gets into patients hands. To me a patient is a patient, as a person is a person whether youâ??re in my store or anywhere else.
Itâ??s much easier to complain, then it is to change things. We hope to do the latter. At Herbal Connections Cherry Creek we are 100% committed to providing affordable medical grade cannabis that has been screened not only for cannabinoids, but molds, mildew, pesticides, insects and hard metals. I believe this should be standard for our industry. We also provide quality clones, seeds and literature, consulting for aspiring growers, so they can provide for themselves or others.
Before I became part of HCCC I was a patient. As a patient, I saw the need for a better dispensing model. So with my partners help, we created what I believe is on of the nicest environments to get your medicine. Now, Iâ??ve switched my focus to our medicine. Weâ??re popping tons of seeds, weâ??ve sourced some top genetics including Presidential Kush, Super Lemon Haze, Golden Goat(3phenos), Flo, Hog, Anastasia, OG Kush(Tahoe Cut), Trinity, MK Ultra, QrazyTrain, Critical Mass, LGS, Purple Kush, Chemdawg (2 phenos), Headband, Orange Velvet x Purple Urkle, Kushage, Kaboom, Sour Diesel( 2 Phenos), Grape Ape x Purps, Twista, Da Purps, Hawaiian Island Skunk, Blue Widow, Grunk, Sensi Star, Grapefruit, Tang, Chemdawg x Chemdawg Haze and about 40 more strains. We have a team of botanists, biologists, phytochemists and other experts working together to create products and standards that will elevate the industry and bring connoisseur quality back. While we have not quite achieved these goals, our shelves are almost as stocked as theyâ??ve ever been, not everything is connoisseur level, but a lot is, and most is better then everything else Iâ??ve seen, and Iâ??ve been to a lot of shops trying to trade to keep selection up. All we can do is continue to improve, with the focus on providing the best medicine to our patients, like metalbrad, who does not work for me, but I thank you for the compliments. Buddah-we'll bring the Louie back to this town I promise you, when it's up to my standards, first one is on me.
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Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
I love Haters:thumbsup:
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Quality was never really found at many dispensaries. Now the best shops have closed, and most of the good growers have gone back to the underground ways of networking.
There are still some good dispensaries, but there selection may not be as good as it was. And why the hell are these shops still charging $50 or more per eighth?
Dispensaries are only worried about quantity and thats why they are sacrificing quality right now. Most of them are trying to figure out how to grow their own which they should have been doing the whole time.
Most of the quality growers grow smaller amounts for themselves and a few friends.
I like CAM, Pure , and Organix. Herbal Element was my all time favorite ever.
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Alot of growers went back underground, but alot of growers opened up legit or are now working with MMC's including the one's you mention. You come to a fork in the road and you choose a path, to each his own. I've seen crap and fire come from commercial grows and from nice home set-ups. It's all about the love you put into it...