'11 Outdoor with Re Veg an Friends

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Hey Stra8, thanks a lot man, but i got a ways to go. I really hope it goes well. Things look good and the deer havent touched them at all, but about every 4 days i take a big ass bunch of piss and blaze the trail with it. Its the only method iv heard of that makes sense.

Gotta say that your grow looked wonderful:hippy:. I was wondering what you felt about it, everyone has their own expectations of what they want in the end. I guess i just was hoping you were thrilled with it. Your a bit more used to having killer big grows, so when i check it out, its kinda like, just don't get the slobber on the keyboard, lol:thumbsup:

Il be watching your next one again for sure:thumbsup: i luv them lights man:hippy:


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thanks..and i have to say i admire you for handling your challenges and taking care of yourself the way you do :thumbsup:

i am still learning a few things about the LED's in getting good yield based on a gram per watt basis....last one was .71gr/watt 320gr total dry...so it was an ok run as far as yield goes...i cannot complain about quality though :D..ive been a little lazy with the camera but i will get some new pics soon...but overall i will say that i have learned alot in applying the LED's to my grow....my frustating thing as you can appreciate is i only let certain friends into my room that i can get help from in raising and lowering my lights...i had a pulley system on my hoods with HPS so it was easy for me to raise and lower 2 lights...but with 6 in the room it gets more complicated so i have them hung with chain and i have to get some help for my height challenged tasks...lol :smokin:

i have deer issues outside myself...i found a repellant that is a mix of spices and bloodmeal that works...i keep about a cup or so in a coffee can with a rock in it...so it does not get blown away from wind...but i keep it next to my green beans outside and put some fresh stuff in the cann about every 3 weeks and the deer stay away...so if the weather here ever warms up i was going to try some outdoor plants on my patio this year to see if could do an outdoor grow with a couple plants in 10gal containers :jointsmile:

Here is what she looks like today. Not bad for sitting in my box without the fan on. Just really don't want to spread any pollen in the house.

I didn't take these, so il try an get a better quality pic of the sacks on this plant later. Just thought id show what they look like now, for a possible guess of a harvest time. Its under 2 26w CFL's and they are running 24/0 light. I thought with the 24/0 would help speed up they flowering, so then i can get what i need and burn the box and clean the light:hippy:


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I had a grow guide once, but learned 99% of what I know, in forums like this one. You can't ask books any questions nor can you ask for clarification on issues... Was kinda neat looking at the pictures, but grow guides soon become outdated as botanists and horticulturists are just figuring-out how to seperate necessity from myth. The info in the forums is real-life, is as current as it gets, and most plant problem diagnosis are relevant to your personal situation, if you fill-out the troubleshooting form.
(we're not sponsored by a book publisher, are we...?)

Jorge Cervantes and Mel Franks have a good reputation as cannabis authors. Kind of a dry read though. Not sure I remember the depth of their breeding info, but I don't think it's too deep.

You could Google 'Cannabis Breeding' Many helpful articles there. :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by stra8outtaWeed

thanks..and i have to say i admire you for handling your challenges and taking care of yourself the way you do :thumbsup:

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Thanks man:jointsmile:most people tell me they couldnt do it, but i guess i look at it from a different view point. I have made it a game from day one. If i pick up the can and drink out of it i win, if i spill the damn thing i lose. Just an exampale, but thats how i go about each and every task i have, from the time im up to the time i go to bed. It makes life interesting for me and has made it easy for day to day crap. It works for me, but i dont like to lose, lol.

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i am still learning a few things about the LED's in getting good yield based on a gram per watt basis....last one was .71gr/watt 320gr total dry...so it was an ok run as far as yield goes...i cannot complain about quality though :D..ive been a little lazy with the camera but i will get some new pics soon...but overall i will say that i have learned alot in applying the LED's to my grow....my frustating thing as you can appreciate is i only let certain friends into my room that i can get help from in raising and lowering my lights...i had a pulley system on my hoods with HPS so it was easy for me to raise and lower 2 lights...but with 6 in the room it gets more complicated so i have them hung with chain and i have to get some help for my height challenged tasks...lol :smokin:

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Wow man they say for someone to try an get .50gr per watt is what iv read. So you exceeded that by a lot, plus quality is good, so id gotta say WOW. But growing i thing we all want to step up each grow:hippy:. If you had figured out a way to raise your hps, i think you have the ability to make the switch to taking care of your own LED lights. It just might need more time to figure out just how to get it done. Ever thought of connecting them in a way that its only to raise and lower, you could use multiple pulleys maybe? Not there so hard to envision. But just thinking about it someday, i believe you will figure it out. I dont like anyone helping me with something i believe i could do myself.

[QOUTE]i have deer issues outside myself...i found a repellant that is a mix of spices and bloodmeal that works...i keep about a cup or so in a coffee can with a rock in it...so it does not get blown away from wind...but i keep it next to my green beans outside and put some fresh stuff in the cann about every 3 weeks and the deer stay away...so if the weather here ever warms up i was going to try some outdoor plants on my patio this year to see if could do an outdoor grow with a couple plants in 10gal containers :jointsmile:[/QUOTE]

Maybe il try that idea, but what was it called? I like being outside when its not to hot. With my issues, i dont sweat when im hot and thats how your body cools itself. So when its to hot, like when its to cold im stuck in the house. But outdoor growing gives me the chance to get out into the woods a bit. I really like nature in genral, so any chance i get im out in it. 10 gal pots would get ya some nice plants. I have one in a 5 and going to try the SOG method. Never did one, but the spot its in pretty much dictates this method.

Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Maybe il try that idea, but what was it called? I like being outside when its not to hot. With my issues, i dont sweat when im hot and thats how your body cools itself. So when its to hot, like when its to cold im stuck in the house. But outdoor growing gives me the chance to get out into the woods a bit. I really like nature in genral, so any chance i get im out in it. 10 gal pots would get ya some nice plants. I have one in a 5 and going to try the SOG method. Never did one, but the spot its in pretty much dictates this method.

Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

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the stuff is called DEER SCRAM...there is a website on the side www.deerscram.com

the active ingredients are;
dried blood 40%
garlic 3%
white pepper 3%
cloves 1%
meat meal 53%

i've tried to hit your yahoo and it wont let me through...hit mine and we can chat sometime :smokin:

Well damn i think i found 1 more male in the family. This sucks because it was the biggest and best i had going, other then the re vegged plants. Just to lazy today or hot to chop it down, but il get it in the morning. I have 1 more family member which il put in its place. Its a great spot getting most of the days direct sun light. This one stinks, only because it look so good before i went out today with balls hanging off the lower top. Oh well lets just hope the others stay on the other side:thumbsup:and i should do ok outside this year. I only wish i would have started a few of the re vegged plants seed stock, just to get a NL plant outside.

See Ya:rasta:

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Well damn i think i found 1 more male in the family. This sucks because it was the biggest and best i had going, other then the re vegged plants.

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Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge.

You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole shebang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Man i really need to read up on this. I cant find a place to read about seeds. I need so much info, because i don't understand what is what. F1 cross? Is there an F2 and that means? So i need to find some reading that would educate me on this kinda shit that i really want to know.
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:thumbsup:hi LSY,a good book(if you want to learn about breeding)is "marijuana botany" by robert connell clarke.its very deep-i cant get my head round half of it,but then i wont need to when i can buy seeds from LSY SeedbanK in a few yrs:D:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Hempsouth

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

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Hey there Hemp, who are things with you man:hippy: Iv been meaning to shot you an email, so look for one soon, thanks for the confidence man:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

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Wish i would have read this before:chainsaw:. But the male growing in this box was 2nd biggest and also planted later then the bigger one i cut down today. I was sorta in a mad dash to get to watch my kid graduate.

[QUOTE]Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge./QUOTE]

Cool Rusty because i thought i could keep it in the fridge, but how long will it keep in there? Also, i was going to keep it in a film container, if the ex will let me use it, but il find something.

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You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

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I thought by painting the pollen on would give more control of it, because i really don't think i need much. I have a plant with lowryder 2 in it, along with some other very good genetics in it id like to try. It was breed by some people that know how to make seeds. I thought this would be the most stable of what i have, but also thought about putting a bit of pollen on a NL branch. Thing is im going to have to pull the branches apart. Just growing to close together, so i was going to use big rubber bands. Thought id just put them around different branches and pull them out a bit, then use stakes to hold them. This way they will still have the wind moving them around, also as they get bigger i can move the stakes out. I need to do this with the Skunk x NL as it needs it too, but not as bad so will see as it gets bigger. But the Edna is just growing perfect, just like a shrub now, but hoping for a bush:thumbsup:

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I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole she bang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

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Yeah iv seen yours in action in a pic you had with a few other plants just sitting around it. And i have one like it, but its a big tube. There is a place called ''hobby lobby'' that sells them in any size.:thumbsup:I have this one in a box iv used to veg a few seedlings, but will just take out the light and pot after collecting some pollen and burn the box, iv got a bunch of them just like it, boxes that is,lol.

Ok, i didn't think of this, but i have the light at 24/0 right now, but do i need 12/12 for the flowers to ripen? Common sense tells me i do, as this is what nature would do to keep itself from extinction. But still unsure of it, so a bit of help would be very, very appreciated:jointsmile:


Thanks for stopping by:weedpoke: :rasta:

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Originally Posted by Hempsouth

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

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Hey there Hemp, who are things with you man:hippy: Iv been meaning to shot you an email, so look for one soon, thanks for the confidence man:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

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Wish i would have read this before:chainsaw:. But the male growing in this box was 2nd biggest and also planted later then the bigger one i cut down today. I was sorta in a mad dash to get to watch my kid graduate.

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Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge

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Cool Rusty because i thought i could keep it in the fridge, but how long will it keep in there? Also, i was going to keep it in a film container, if the ex will let me use it, but il find something.

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You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

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I thought by painting the pollen on would give more control of it, because i really don't think i need much. I have a plant with lowryder 2 in it, along with some other very good genetics in it id like to try. It was breed by some people that know how to make seeds. I thought this would be the most stable of what i have, but also thought about putting a bit of pollen on a NL branch. Thing is im going to have to pull the branches apart. Just growing to close together, so i was going to use big rubber bands. Thought id just put them around different branches and pull them out a bit, then use stakes to hold them. This way they will still have the wind moving them around, also as they get bigger i can move the stakes out. I need to do this with the Skunk x NL as it needs it too, but not as bad so will see as it gets bigger. But the Edna is just growing perfect, just like a shrub now, but hoping for a bush:thumbsup:

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I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole she bang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

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Yeah iv seen yours in action in a pic you had with a few other plants just sitting around it. And i have one like it, but its a big tube. There is a place called ''hobby lobby'' that sells them in any size.:thumbsup:If ya like i might be able to look for one or two for you, if ya want Rusty. She uses them to cover plants she starts, sorta like a humidity dome as she covers it, works great.

I have this one in a box iv used to veg a few seedlings, but will just take out the light and pot after collecting some pollen and burn the box, iv got a bunch of them just like it, boxes that is,lol.

Ok, i didn't think of this, but i have the light at 24/0 right now, but do i need 12/12 for the flowers to ripen? Common sense tells me i do, as this is what nature would do to keep itself from extinction. But still unsure of it, so a bit of help would be very, very appreciated:jointsmile:


Thanks for stopping by:weedpoke: :rasta:

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Originally Posted by busybee

:thumbsup:hi LSY,a good book(if you want to learn about breeding)is "marijuana botany" by robert connell clarke.its very deep-i cant get my head round half of it,but then i wont need to when i can buy seeds from LSY SeedbanK in a few yrs:D:jointsmile:

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ROTFLMAO, thats funny man:thumbsup:. I have a few botany books. I needed them for a bonsai book, i had a tough time getting through and haven't finished yet. Growing MJ just has taken over since last year. My oldest i thought had died, because i put it out and fried the thing, but saw new growth today. I really need to re pot it and cut it back a bunch, lol. Oh well, it will pull through.

Thanks for stopping in man:rasta:

Follow your common sense and go back to 12/12 on the indoor male.

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Originally Posted by irydyum

Follow your common sense and go back to 12/12 on the indoor male.

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Well i freaking thought so. Thanks man, the 24/0 really never made any sense, but was a lazy thing i guess. Think il just plug it in the morning and pull it at night. What could happen, hermy, lol.

Thanks Irydyum:rasta:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Think il just plug it in the morning and pull it at night. What could happen, hermy, lol.
Thanks Irydyum:rasta:

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A timer is well-worth the investment. An irregular schedule can have negative effects on growth habit and plant health. Since you want to breed 'em, it's best to optimize the grow conditions. And actually, yes...a male can turn, and start throwing-out calyx's and pistils. (hermie)

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

A timer is well-worth the investment. An irregular schedule can have negative effects on growth habit and plant health. Since you want to breed 'em, it's best to optimize the grow conditions. And actually, yes...a male can turn, and start throwing-out calyx's and pistils. (hermie)

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Yeah Rusty i thought it could hermy, but im dealing with a strain im unsure of. To bad i didn't know the strain, but came from good genetics. Thats why i want to use the pollen on something i can identify, like the NL#5, or the Edna as it would be the best growing at the time. Its getting great branch growth and bushing out. But its the way i trimmed it, by keeping buds that was on the outer part of the plant. Something i will remember next re veg.

Im really hoping to get the NL growing out a bit better. Its healthy, but growing straight up, thats why i thought if i can pull out the branches with rubber bands, the inner growth might fill itself in. This is true with the Skunk x NL too.

I will be able to get some pics up today of new growth. Had a bit of twisted leaf growth on the Edna and was thinking i gave a bit much ferts. Its not real bad, just 3 leaves i think. Its been really hot here too and have same issue with a smaller one, but looks better since iv put it in the ground. Also, its grown more then any of the others in the ''family'' plants, or unknown strains.

Im on 12/12 since last night.

Thanks Rusty:rasta:

I have also different revagin plants , some of them became really beauties, some of them not. it depents what kind of plant.

Verry much succes this year.

Blowsterke

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I have also different revagin plants , some of them became really beauties, some of them not. it depents what kind of plant.

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Well Blowstrerke, you should post them, id like to see them. Im really hoping my NL#5 gets big, its one of the finest smoke iv ever had, i just luv the taste and doesnt put me to sleep right away. But helps me sleep when i want too.

Very much success this year Blowsterke, to you too:hippy:

I didn't get a chance to get pics today, just to damn hot. But i did have a question for someone. How long will my pollen last in the fridge, because its going to be around August before i could use it i think. Of course this is a guess, but at least to or around that time. Any one know, cuz there is no point taking it if its not going to last that long?

Thanks, muchly:D

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Well so it was about to rain and i took the opportunity to take a few pic's right before it started. It was coming down a bit, but not enough for me to miss out on what they look like just before a good soaking. They look great, right before it rains.

In order they go

Edna, looking very nice, but a couple twisted leaves.

NL, which is looking better everyday.

Skunk 1 x NL 5, needs to get bigger, but is behind the other two.

WiTarHar, this was crossed with great genetics including Lowryder 2 for outdoor fast growing. I hope to either take clones, or give a bit of pollen too. It was breed in Holland, so keeping it is very important to me. Iv got one up and a friend has one up, so lets hope they can get together and do their thang;)

5 gal plant, which would be the biggest of the ''family''. Was going to SOG it, but not sure now that the other bigger one got chopped:wtf:

Next post is ''family'' members that i have put in place of the chopped ones with balls.

Lets hope they do well, because i only have one i could replace them with if they get nuts. Not sure of the 2 way out in the woods as P didn't show up to feed them. I guess im glad it rained as the ferts can sink better into the ground and they will grow a couple inches. They always do when i get a good over night soaking:thumbsup:

Enjoy:rasta:

So here are a couple pic's of the ''family'', one has a bit of fert burn one her, but with good new growth coming in at the top.

Also i took a pic of the 5gal plant, only a bit closer. Its got ok branch growth, but not as good as id like. So i may fim a branch or two. I have noticed a reddish color at the top of this plant, which as did a few other ''family'' plants. If it gets really big, il cut the bottom off and plant the pot in the ground, lets just hope it does:jointsmile:I would need some help with this tho.:wtf:

So this would be all of them, but one i have in a coffee container, cuz i ran outta pots, lol. Im thinking of just letting it grow in it all year. It would be to stressful i think to dig it out as the container is an odd shape, but this bottom could be cut off as well. This plant was put into a much to big of container as it should of been put in one that roots would fill the pot. Its now just really starting to grow, so i guess the roots are filling up in there. I will get a pic of this one in the afternoon, damn camera wouldn't turn on for me to get one.

Peace:weedpoke::rasta:

Plants are looking nice LSY. Sorry to hear to got another male, I grew outside once and thought i had the best plant inside because it was the biggest and strongest but it turned out to me a man ! I got a couple questions bout ur cfl grow you did arounf the time of my one. I saw this by DrBud on another site and it was truely inspirational, he really shows what cfls can do in producing a lot of ganja without the need of lst etc. Im sure you will find it interesting ***DrBud Takes CFL SOG to the Next Level*** - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums So my questions are what bulbs did you use for flower ? obviously 2700k but this guy uses 42 watt bulbs which i cant find anywhere here in the uk. Is there a watt equivalent between cfls in the states and the uk ?

Keep up good work man :jointsmile:

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Plants are looking nice LSY. Sorry to hear to got another male, I grew outside once and thought i had the best plant inside because it was the biggest and strongest but it turned out to me a man ! I got a couple questions bout ur cfl grow you did arounf the time of my one. I saw this by DrBud on another site and it was truely inspirational, he really shows what cfls can do in producing a lot of ganja without the need of lst etc. Im sure you will find it interesting ***DrBud Takes CFL SOG to the Next Level*** - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums So my questions are what bulbs did you use for flower ? obviously 2700k but this guy uses 42 watt bulbs which i cant find anywhere here in the uk. Is there a watt equivalent between cfls in the states and the uk ?

Keep up good work man :jointsmile:

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Yeah char, hows it going bro:hippy:I started out using 27w cfl's, but then after all the reading, people were saying 27k to bud and 65k for veg. Until i got to reading about a mix spectrum and found that IMO it made sense. So, i started to buy a few 23w cfl's and put a few in the mix. So i basically had half 27w and 23w through most of the grow. Now it was my first experience with growing inside, but i was happy in the end. I think with cfl's the bigger, the more they might penetrate better. But, if you can get side lighting in your grow it would equal the same as using the 42w cfl's. It might take more then if you were using all 42w's, but in the end a mix of different bulbs i believe will be just as good. But there are people who switch out to 23w cfl's which are 27k to flower. There is a big difference in the brightness, to the human eye as the 23's are not as bright to the eye that is. There is a website you could order them from, or on ebay iv found a lot of cfl's there as well. I saw a sale the other day that was in the paper, selling 8 cfl's for 9.99, which is the cheapest iv ever seen, to bad i was broke. 1000lights.com i know sells just about any light ya need and iv seen that a lot of people use that site. But, i think the more you can put on your plants, with different spectrum's works well and i will continue to grow just as i did last indoor grow.

Hope this helps man and if ya need me to i could get some and mail em to ya, if you cant find what you want. I have a paypal account, which could make things easy.

Let me know bro,:rasta:

So, im thinking i really dont need all of them to open, but just how many do i need to open, before i can get the plant outta here. But just how long should i wait before taking pollen? Also, how long will the pollen last in my fridge?


Thanks everyone:rasta:

If you are super anxious to get rid of him you can cut a limb off and leave it in water for the next couple days on a windowsill or something. The flowers should continue to open.

You only need probably one "cluster" worth or so to create seeds. Each single pollen grain has the capacity to reproduce with a single calyx, so really you only need a couple flowers worth. I would try to get as much as possible if I were you, just to ensure success.

I read that pollen can be stored in the freezer for up to several months. However, you must be sure that it's COMPLETELY dry to maintain viability. Moisture is the nemesis of pollen. Try hard to separate any male flower material from the actual pollen with a screen or something to prevent a wet piece of flower from killing pollen when you store it.

Hope this is what you were looking for:thumbsup:
C-ya

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Originally Posted by irydyum

If you are super anxious to get rid of him you can cut a limb off and leave it in water for the next couple days on a windowsill or something. The flowers should continue to open.

You only need probably one "cluster" worth or so to create seeds. Each single pollen grain has the capacity to reproduce with a single calyx, so really you only need a couple flowers worth. I would try to get as much as possible if I were you, just to ensure success.

I read that pollen can be stored in the freezer for up to several months. However, you must be sure that it's COMPLETELY dry to maintain viability. Moisture is the nemesis of pollen. Try hard to separate any male flower material from the actual pollen with a screen or something to prevent a wet piece of flower from killing pollen when you store it.

Hope this is what you were looking for:thumbsup:
C-ya

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Thanks irydyum, thats just what i needed. I knew that moisture isn't a good thing when it comes to pollen. But the main thing i was unsure of was how Long it would keep. I plan to let a few open before i collect anything from it, that way im sure to get some and just not waste my time.

I was surprised they started to open this fast. I hope my plants way outta here didn't get balls, cuz my dude didn't show up to check em. Oh well, i guess thats what i get:wtf:theres only 2.


Thanks man:rasta:

Well it was a good day for pic's and my camera was working:wtf:Damn thing stop working while at my kids graduation, i was pissed. But i guess if ya charge the batteries, it will make the camera work,:wtf:.''Can ya say dumb ass''

Anyway, the rain made em grow just like i had thought, nice:) I got at least 3-4 inches on the Edna, so i posted them as the first two. Yeah i had to put two up, cuz i wasn't sure which looked the best. Oh and i tossed my pak of smokes down to show size, but not sure it will work or not. Lets hope i don't post the same pic, lol.

Next would be the Skunk 1 x NL 5. Its starting to bush out a bit more as it gets bigger. I sure would like this one to be a monster plant. With its cross it makes for some pretty potent shit man. I can only use it at night and iv smoked for 29 years, so i can handle the higher stuff. But id end up curled up in bed for the day and not get shit done, so i use it for sleep and pain, works great:stoned:.

The next pic is the NL which is the best iv ever had before. It keeps ya going and helps with my issues, but doesnt put you to sleep till ya want it to, then work great. But if i need to smoke in the day, thats what i would use to get me through a tough day without crashing. I really only smoke at night, so you could call me a ''midnight toker'' sorta smoker. But on occasion i will have a bit to make things a bit more interesting. I will concentrate better sometime if iv indulged in the afternoon, or once and a while il wake an bake, but its been a long time since iv done that. Gotta say though, it goes great with coffee:thumbsup:

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Well my NL plants got pistils all over and hope its doing ok. I just hope its not trying to start to flower yet. These pic's didn't show as well as i had wished they would.

Then a ''family'' pic im calling Maxine, lol. If you cant tell, do not ask. This was the only thing i had at the time to put her in, but shes gotten to big for me to mess with her now. So, its a permanent thing for her as iv grown a 4' ter in a gallon jug that was only half full of soil. I need to move it though, it could get better sun then where shes at.

Then there is the 5 gal plant:hippy: i want to do a SOG with her, but im not sure if its to late. I should have bent her over a month ago to get stated. The branch growth looks better everyday, so will see what happens. I got this idea, but its one of those things that either gets done when i feel like it or she just grows:wtf:sorta lame, but gotta lot on the plate right now. I tried to get her top as its a nice pink, like some of the other ''family'' members have looked.


:weedpoke: havin fun yet:rasta:

edna looks real nice man lovely and green:thumbsup::jointsmile: the others look good too (dnt get jelous lil planties) just edna is a beast:jointsmile: mine get munched she looks clean, how u keep the bugs off her?

good job man keep it up:thumbsup:

Yes i posted wrong plant and forgot my male plant, thats started to open his flowers. So the first 2 are the male plant im growing in a box to try and make some beans. I could just pollenate a female and grow em out next grow, but im on a mission to make the best beans i can. So i need to grow a bunch of plants and keep my shit straight. That means i really need to label everything and only use the best plants grown. I am not sure which one to pllenate first, but i have one with great genetics in it and was breed in Holland. If she does well il put some on her, but would like to pull in the NL as well at some point. My plans are to do this right, no short cuts:thumbsup:

And then here is the 5 gal plant, lets see if there is any difference between the other post pic an this one, cuz its only a couple days.

Hope you enjoy the pics, cuz my arm is about ready to fall off from typing, geez man:cool:

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edna looks real nice man lovely and green:thumbsup::jointsmile: the others look good too (dnt get jelous lil planties) just edna is a beast:jointsmile: mine get munched she looks clean, how u keep the bugs off her?

good job man keep it up:thumbsup:

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Hey man the Edna is the best looking so far, but the Skunk x NL is catching up a bit. I have been lucky i guess, but when you start them inside then set them in the shade a couple weeks. The bugs don't mess with them as much, but since iv moved the 5gal, shes been getting a few bugs. If you make some soapy water and just splash it all over the plant, they will leave them alone. Just make sure the sun is as close to down or at dark, cuz last year when i put it on mine, i burn the shit outta them. But they came back fine. It was cloudy as hell and the wind was blowing so i thought id be fine, but burned em cuz the sun came out and the wind slowed down:wtf:

Try it, it will work and its cheap:thumbsup:

Keep er green man:weedpoke::rasta:

sweet man what sorta mix ratio?
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sweet man what sorta mix ratio?
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Just plan ol soapy water. I had ask my step-dad what would keep the bugs off my maters and he said that after they would wash cloths, they would take all the left over water and splash it on their garden. What i did was put some of that liquid soap in a gallon and filled it with water. Then just drenched them with it, but like i said, not in the sun. It fried mine, but they came right back. Also, if it rains ya gotta reapply it, cuz the rain will wash it off.

Good luck man, :rasta:

Is that a male in the Maxwell House pot? If not, how are you planning to transplant? Just something to keep in mind for other members that do the same. :thumbsup:

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Is that a male in the Maxwell House pot? If not, how are you planning to transplant? Just something to keep in mind for other members that do the same. :thumbsup:

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''So this would be all of them, but one i have in a coffee container, cuz i ran outta pots, lol. Im thinking of just letting it grow in it all year. It would be to stressful i think to dig it out as the container is an odd shape, but this bottom could be cut off as well. This plant was put into a much to big of container as it should of been put in one that roots would fill the pot. Its now just really starting to grow, so i guess the roots are filling up in there. I will get a pic of this one in the afternoon, damn camera wouldn't turn on for me to get one.''

Rusty this was posted in the page before this one:thumbsup: last post. I would not advise this either, but like i said, i was out of pots and was the only option to save it from dying.

Plus if pople just look through a thread to just look at pic's and are not reading it, then they are not here to learn as you and i know the two go hand an hand. Maybe i should have explained it again, but i already had, so to me there was no piont in saying it again.:hippy:

So, what do you think of the re veg so far? I know you have not done one outside before, but was wondering if the growth is up to par, from the time i started to now?

Takes for stopping in Rusty:rasta:

I saw the post, but was:
A) curious if you were really going to leave her to suffer, or if there was a transplant in her future.
B) trying to warn other's of the folly of putting a plant into a container with a smaller opening than the rootball. Speaking of which, how was the yield of your last "Maxine", and did it take longer to finish?

Were it mine, I'd cut the jug open and transplant.

Your babies look great. Almost wish I could take mine outside. But were I growing outdoors, I'd have to stake the plants down to an almost horizontal grow. (no fences, and only short bushes for cover) Plus, the grasshoppers, chipmunks and rabbits are relentless here.

More importantly...how do YOU like 'em? Is a re-veg worth the effort?

Is a re-veg worth the effort?
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I am trying this out in Holland, I also have revag an plants every year.

Nice topic you have Letseeya.:rastasmoke:

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Yeah char, hows it going bro:hippy:I started out using 27w cfl's, but then after all the reading, people were saying 27k to bud and 65k for veg. Until i got to reading about a mix spectrum and found that IMO it made sense. So, i started to buy a few 23w cfl's and put a few in the mix. So i basically had half 27w and 23w through most of the grow. Now it was my first experience with growing inside, but i was happy in the end. I think with cfl's the bigger, the more they might penetrate better. But, if you can get side lighting in your grow it would equal the same as using the 42w cfl's. It might take more then if you were using all 42w's, but in the end a mix of different bulbs i believe will be just as good. But there are people who switch out to 23w cfl's which are 27k to flower. There is a big difference in the brightness, to the human eye as the 23's are not as bright to the eye that is. There is a website you could order them from, or on ebay iv found a lot of cfl's there as well. I saw a sale the other day that was in the paper, selling 8 cfl's for 9.99, which is the cheapest iv ever seen, to bad i was broke. 1000lights.com i know sells just about any light ya need and iv seen that a lot of people use that site. But, i think the more you can put on your plants, with different spectrum's works well and i will continue to grow just as i did last indoor grow.

Hope this helps man and if ya need me to i could get some and mail em to ya, if you cant find what you want. I have a paypal account, which could make things easy.

Let me know bro,:rasta:

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I emailed a big company over in the US and no reply. Missing out on my custom! Im going to have another look now but if i cant find any that ship over here it would be great if you could do me a favour ! and i trust ya LSY even though i never met you !

With the soapy water you dont need much to kill insects. I was watching a gardening show and they were keeping green fly of some kind of vegetable and they added 1 drop to a litre of water and misted it onto the leaves, at night like you did so you dont cook em !

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I saw the post, but was:
A) curious if you were really going to leave her to suffer, or if there was a transplant in her future.

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Well Rusty at this point, i guess shes there to survive. ''Family'' plant that was the weakest of my poor attempt to germ seeds in a way iv never tried. Issue turned out to be lack of perlite. This loan girl sorta got left behind the others as they went into the ground as they got ready. Which before this, they needed a bunch of tlc to pull out of the bad germ attempt. I guess it was ignored as only the good ones were worth putting into my comfort zone. But ''Maxine'' never gave up:clap:so i have a plant in a pot id stress to much if i transplant now, but don't have the heart to:chainsaw:because it might be a female and if impressed, il cut it open. ''Catch 22''

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B) trying to warn other's of the folly of putting a plant into a container with a smaller opening than the rootball. Speaking of which, how was the yield of your last "Maxine", and did it take longer to finish?

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This was to be a temp thing and knew that it was first of all to big of pot for such a small seedling. And then i might of thought of issues with re potting. The plant was to be scoop out and put in a different pot soon after. But not improving and others were, i ran out of room before this plant looked good at all. Last year i just chucked my seeds in a big pot of dirt, they popped and i transplanted 2-3 times before putting them into the ground. I did things a bit different this year and some are working, some not. They luv to be re potted and makes them grow faster IMO. But started inside to get a good start and messed up my seeds. So i had got pots from everyplace in the house to save them.

Last plant i grew in a gallon milk jug was a long time ago. I had started way to many plants around here, i woke up and started pulling them. As to the jug plant that was only filled with only a small bit of soil in it, grew 4'. It finished before any of the others, because it grew with only about 2 hours of direct light. Also, it was a male plant, but very new to growing and so at this point im just looking at the biggest MJ plant id ever grown. But in the end of the season, the smallest plant i grew was the best. It was like something i had smoked 20 years ago, with such a sweet taste. I might have got maybe 4joints off her, i pulled off a bud an she would grow another. My friend came over, i said ''ya gotta see this'', he pointed and said ''male cut it down''. Are you kidding me,:(

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Not if you had enough in one area. If it is indeed a female and starts getting big, i will cut it open and put it out some place other then here. But keeping it in its current container is best as of now, because the roots are hitting the sides and bigining to grow above ground very well. Had i known the worst of the seedlings would have turn out this nice, it would be in the ground by now. And when and if i do the rootball will great for outdoor growing. It would get big. If i do id wait till the end of this month, the pot was to big in the first place and wasnt meant to be its home, so it would need more time to be where the others were before put into the ground.

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Your babies look great. Almost wish I could take mine outside. But were I growing outdoors, I'd have to stake the plants down to an almost horizontal grow. (no fences, and only short bushes for cover) Plus, the grasshoppers, chipmunks and rabbits are relentless here.

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I think you would like it Rusty:thumbsup:if ya did only one, once a year. Just being outside around them while the sun is bathing them feels great. And maybe just as a switch of growing styles. I can see ya growing one around your house, just one big shrub:D

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More importantly...how do YOU like 'em? Is a re-veg worth the effort?

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Well the Edna is doing great, but that has to do with where i pruned it. The Skunk x NL is coming around better everyday, but the NL plant didnt get pruned at a place where branch growth could spread out as its maturing. But with pulling out the outter branches im hoping it will catch up, or get close to the other two. If not it will just grow taller then like a bush, which is what im trying to achieve with them.

I would never grow a plant with out re vegging it. It makes no sense not to take advantage of what is in front of you. As soon as i saw your thread i was hooked, heck i bugged you enough for you to know. Did my best to get all the info i could get from you and everytime i check out your thread, looks like iv posted more then you:wtf:. But, now im thinking how a person can re veg a re veg, lol. Its in the back of my head and keep wondering if it could happen. Maybe will see one day:D

Thanks Rusty:rasta:

Kinda figured. I know how it is with not wanting to cull her. But, you get used to it after a while. You start slowly with males, advance to hermies...and before you know it you're culling with the best of 'em. :D
(or, you could plant her sideways...;) )

For me, it's not even worth trying outdoors with the vermin and bugs, and heat, and wind, and no shade, no fences, and...I'm doing fine where I am, lol. Once they carbon tax our electric bill beyond affordability, I'll make some changes and build a greenhouse.

Was just making sure you're still satisfied with the re-veg technique.
Keep up the good work. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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I emailed a big company over in the US and no reply. Missing out on my custom! Im going to have another look now but if i cant find any that ship over here it would be great if you could do me a favour ! and i trust ya LSY even though i never met you !:

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Ya dont gotta worry about me man, im not that kind of low life. I have a few people i call friends and your one of them. No we have never met, but il bet we would get along and i can only say i wouldnt do ya wrong. I could never come back to the site man, thats way to much for a few bucks. Just let me know bro, i got ya:hippy:


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