Is it Indica?

I flushed out the soil with 2 gal. tap water. Tap water had set out for 3 days. I did notice that some of the little green fertilizer balls in the soil had burst/flattened.

I doubt I will use pre-fertilized soil again. I don't like not having control. With pre-fertilized soil there is no control of the nutrients. They may have a good proportion of basic nutrients, but while the plants are young this may be to rich.

The other plant I call Droopy has the slightest hint of burn on the tips of the lower leafs. Otherwise, it is growing bushy and thick. It being in the same type of soil makes be believe some plants may be more tolerant of these soil conditions.

I included some pictures of the bottom leafs. While I was pouring in the water, my hand brushed one of the leafs. It promptly fell off.:wtf3:

In my 'limited' experience :)

I use FloraKleen, I run it through my flowering system every month and through plants individually when I move them from the Veggie garden to the flowering one.

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Originally Posted by coolslayer

In your experience, what is the best flushing method?

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I've heard a lot of bad things about fertilized soil. Cannabis doesn't do well with it. Believe it or not, miracle grow has the right amount of nutrients and you can control the dosage. The usual rule of thumb is to NOT fertilize Cannabis the first two weeks of growth. I grew a Sativa once using miracle grow and the plant turned out perfect. It almost took over my grow closet though. When it was getting close to harvest time, I flushed for two weeks. Miracle Grow isn't organic so you'll want to flush out all the excess nutrients.

Here is a update to the grow. For all the latest informaton and more pictures check my grow log.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...epurr-pot.html

Looking good,pepurr!

They look great pepurr. I was just checking out m420m's post, Hers look great as well. Does mirical grow flush completley out of the plant during it's 2 week flush before harvest? I use rose bloom during the flowering period but have never used mirical grow. An old friend of mine in Santa Fe taught me this method. It works really well.
I use once every 2 weeks . I mix worm castings 30% ( make into a worm shit tea. approx 1 quart) a little aloe gel straight from the plant leaf ( tablespoon) and a drop or three of Neptunes harvest with seaweed in a 1 gallon jug with warm water. I sometimes add bat guano to the worm castings if I have it. I have never had a bad plant with this mix and incredible yeilds. I do mean heavy plants and massive cola's
I am waiting on my personal production license and can't wait to start doing this agian.
Plants look great:thumbsup::hippy:
check out my albums, I put a few pics in there.

Have you considered using LST to make your plants grow more bushy and not so tall and straight?

I had considered LST, but decided to wait till the next batch. This my first grow in 29 years, so on this one it will be 'au naturel'.

One of them will be sacrificed later due to the fact I only have so much light to work with. So far Droopy is winning. It hasn't had so much trouble with nute burn like Indica Maybe. Also all of its secondary growth is nice and even, with well developed leafs. Droopy is way bushier than Indica Maybe.

Indica Maybe had a bad problem with nute burn. The burn killed off the first 3 nodes of fan leaves, and the burn still creeps up on remaining fan leafs. The secondary branches on it are uneven and the leaves there of, are not so well developed as with Droopy. One of the secondary branches even shot out 3 inches leaving all the rest behind at only a half an inch.

There are little nubs of pre-flower on both of them now. The nubs on Droopy showed 2 weeks earlier than on Indica Maybe. I don't have a magnifier so it is hard for me to tell, but I don't as yet see any hairs coming out of them.

Indica Maybe has started making uneven nodes on its main stalk. This has been going on for the last 4 nodes. I read when that happens, it is a good time to cut the light. I would like to give them another week of veg before cutting the light.

They are 9-10 inches tall now, and really seem to be taking off. I had to raise the lights 3 times in a week. If they keep going at this rate, they will be 14-15 inches tall on week 6.

Tomorrow is the week 5 mark. I will post new pictures then.

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Originally Posted by xsnoder

Does mirical grow flush completley out of the plant during it's 2 week flush before harvest? I use rose bloom during the flowering period but have never used mirical grow.

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I really couldn't say. The soil I am using has the ferts built in. It sucks in a way. With all them ferts in there already, some of the plants get burned when young.

Seems that as water gets flushed through and the plants get older and stronger, they are better able to handle all the nutes.

It will be interesting to see what happens when harvest comes. Flushing soil with built in ferts would seem to not work as well as if when the soil has not this built in ferts. Hopefully by the time of harvest much, if not all, of the ferts will be depleted.

Very interesting. I imagine the built in nutes would be depleated by harvest but, is it mostley mineral supplement or does it have a full range of nitrogen ect..?. Also what is LST? does this mean low stress training? or is it some form of supplement?

Interesting. I should have been doing this with mine all these years. My babies get way to tall, 3' to 10' all outside.
DUBMAN'S guide to low stress training (LST) Growing Marijuana

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Originally Posted by xsnoder

is it mostley mineral supplement or does it have a full range of nitrogen ect..?.

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Here is the Soil Stats.

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Sta-Green All Purpose Potting Mix With Fertilizer

Guaranteed Analysis..............................0.10-0.08-0.06
Total Nitrogen (N)*...........................................0.1 0%
0.04% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
0.03% Nitrate Nitrogen
0.03% Urea Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5)*..............................0.08%
Soluble Potash (K2O)*.......................................0.06%

Derived from: Polymer-coated homogeneous: Ammonium Phosphate, Potassium Sulfate and Potassium Nitrate, and Polymer-coated Urea, Monoammonium Phosphate and Sulfate of Potash.

*Part of the fertilizer material has been Polymer-coated to provide the following slow-release nutrients: 0.08% Nitrogen (N), 0.02% Available Phosphate (P2O5) and 0.03% Soluble Potash (K2O).

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I didn't find anything on the bag telling of micro-nutes. They must be in there. Couldn't imagen any potting soil that wouldn't have micro-nutes, unless it is that fancy smancy soil-less mix.

Also today I post week 5 pictures. If you want to see more, check my grow log.

I think they need LST badly,my friend.

LST? Landing Ship Tank? lol I haven't herd that in a long time history stuff. but really what is LST?


Ahh I see now you want to use a scrog method so low stress training is the beginning

Low Stress Training.

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I think they need LST badly,my friend.

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Why? And especially why ''badly"?

They are about 12 inches tall now. I'm thinking next Tuesday, start 12/12. I know a lot of people love LST, but I really don't understand why you are convinced that my plants need it "badly".

I absolutely refuse to LST these plants. Like I said before, my first plants in 29 years will be au naturel, or in a natural state. Well, as natural as one can get indoors. I even considered topping them, but decided against it. That's when I decided to let them grow with no interference, outside of changing light cycles.

I put some seeds in the ground a couple days ago. They are indeed candidate for topping and LST.

I'm guessing you have a full ceiling to work with? You should be fine letting them grow as is if you do, and you're going to start flowering next week.

I've seen mine do some good stretching but well within limits. Not much bigger than 3' or so.

Topping rocks, for me it's going to increase yield a lot as my plants grow nice colas from the stem and 6-8 branches and little else.

Are you going to take some cuttings before you flower?

P.S. - I pinged you on facebook, hit me up :)

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Originally Posted by pepurr

Why? And especially why ''badly"?

They are about 12 inches tall now. I'm thinking next Tuesday, start 12/12. I know a lot of people love LST, but I really don't understand why you are convinced that my plants need it "badly".

I absolutely refuse to LST these plants. Like I said before, my first plants in 29 years will be au naturel, or in a natural state. Well, as natural as one can get indoors. I even considered topping them, but decided against it. That's when I decided to let them grow with no interference, outside of changing light cycles.

I put some seeds in the ground a couple days ago. They are indeed candidate for topping and LST.

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Your plants are growing tall and straight.
If you want only one large central cola,it's fine.
If you want more buds and a more bushy plant,LST is required.

Cool, you ever hear of ppl doing LST in a hydrogarden? When I've looked, many of the configurations were the same, 5 gal+ pots in soil.

I have some net pots, 8" and 10" and am going to cut a couple of clones this week and was going to take a crack at it.

Was going to root the clone in a 1" cube and put it towards the side of one of my netpots in pellets, when it's got about 3 nodes bend it and tie to the netting, and when the next branch grows, tie it over to one side and so on...

I have by mistake learned the benefits of this, one of my Aurora's going into the tent at 13" (yes, I know my MH grows em fast) got to over 4' tall forcing me to bend the top over and clamp it down to the pot, it's now over 5' tall but growing to the side and has 15 very nice pine cone sized buds growing in addition to a fat cola.

Logic suggests, doing it neat and orderly will yield much more bud.

Sounds good.....I would post a link here,but they seem to disappear when I do.

They actually look very good and seem to be doing fine. The soil seems to be doing well and groth seems even, well... maybe not droopy but what the hell not all plants stand at attention. The look good pepurr and can't wait to see the flowering pics. What nutes will you be adding for the flowering priod?

I probably have the same link, if it's the 'cartoon' like drawing of the 10-step LST system :)

Anyways, got some netpots and some cool insulated wire-like stuff to hold the plants in place, got 4 new clones cooking in the chamber and am pretty excited to get it going.

Plus, got some meds hanging to dry finally.

I hope your harvest turns out good Anonymouse.

It was 'ok', I've been disappointed in terms of yield but this is my first set of plants. Here's my 'Snoop' plant, lost A LOT of weight drying but turned out to be 45g dry:

The other, is what I will have coming out in about 2 weeks and indicative of my others in the box a bit behind her:

I also understand the importance of bending and LST, while a plant looks nice and everything growing good and tall, I want an ugly plant that throws 75+ grams out instead :)

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I hope your harvest turns out good Anonymouse.

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they look great and nice job for your first plants :thumbsup:. Curious to see how the second ones turn out. What strain did you use? How does it smoke? I already top my plants but never tried tying them. I agree with you, I would rather have heavy yeilds :jointsmile: They look great Anonymouse

I ordered Aurora Indica, a nice med quality put you to sleep and kill your pain kind. It's very HEAVY on the couchlock effect.

And it goes all to fast :(